If Miranda got the nod over Abraham, would the decision still be viewed as.....

Knicksman you're right on the first clip but watch the second again mate, a jab landed and Miranda missed the counter! It's pretty clear even on the gif. I watched this fight at the time and as I remember Miranda was screwed by the excessive points deductions, but given that Abraham won on the round by round scoring. if you guys want to properly debate it, bring up the rounds that you disagree on, not half-assed arguments that noone can really put their finger on. Miranda hopefully learned to control himself a bit better if he ever gets into a fight like this again. Pavlik is gonna get KO'd IMO.

If Abraham would be american, he would be the next Captain America for his braveness

Miranda got HBO and Abraham didnt so I think that is the most important that Miranda is going to make more money that Abraham and for Abraham to get to HBO he should fight Miranda on a rematch to shut all spectators and see who really won. anyway Miranda was alway fighting away he is more PR than columbian in his heart

I seen the fight 3 times. I would find it hard pressed to give abraham even 5 rounds. I dont know aht fight you've seen. Good for you. I have the fight on DVD and have watched it a few times. Abraham won get over it.

I seen the fight 3 times. I would find it hard pressed to give abraham even 5 rounds. I dont know aht fight you've seen. STFU and go watch the fight. U havent seen shit the way you are talking. This Miranda bandwagon is going to demolish after Pavlik KOs him.

I agree the first clip was rabbit punches but that left hook in the 2nd picture clearly did not land from Miranda. Regardless, I can't see giving Miranda more than 7 rounds (at the most), he lost fair and square. They certainly took to much time in round 5 but then again Miranda had just intentionally fouled Abraham anyways. I seen the fight 3 times. I would find it hard pressed to give abraham even 5 rounds. I dont know aht fight you've seen.

More like rabbit punches in the first clip & Abraham was caught with a counter left by Miranda in the second clip. I agree the first clip was rabbit punches but that left hook in the 2nd picture clearly did not land from Miranda. Regardless, I can't see giving Miranda more than 7 rounds (at the most), he lost fair and square. They certainly took to much time in round 5 but then again Miranda had just intentionally fouled Abraham anyways.

Biased as hell sucking on my favorite fighter Miranda. Abrahams put up a great fight, don't diss him. http://a672.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_630153e815d072a4b8024868223e2ee7.gif Miranda holds on, and take two right hooks to the head http://a712.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/l_a8f3cfc8dcb9866f41b6a8b9aa012b07.gif Miranda takes a left jab to the face Miranda sucked during this fight. Worst performance by Miranda ever. Black jesus's posts like he didn't even see the fight. WOW!! Is that the best you could find to defend Abraham??!?! First off buddy, the top picture is a fine example of rabbit punches (hitting in the back of the head). ILLEGAL and should have been at least warned, if not deducted points. Didnt happen! And in the 2nd one, the jab doesnt even hit flush! It brushed Miranda's chin. Cmon man, I am sure you can find better than that!

Biased as hell sucking on my favorite fighter Miranda. Abrahams put up a great fight, don't diss him. http://a672.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/57/l_630153e815d072a4b8024868223e2ee7.gif Miranda holds on, and take two right hooks to the head http://a712.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/l_a8f3cfc8dcb9866f41b6a8b9aa012b07.gif Miranda takes a left jab to the face Miranda sucked during this fight. Worst performance by Miranda ever. Black jesus's posts like he didn't even see the fight. More like rabbit punches in the first clip & Abraham was caught with a counter left by Miranda in the second clip.

Losers are always the fighters who talk about would have,could have, should have. Abraham won the fight despite Miranda's dirty tactics, get over it. yes it would have been a robbery if Miranda got the decision.

for miranda to win, he would've had to have won 10 rounds, which he didn't. I'd give him 6 at best.

its really stupid to call that a controversial decision....what was controversial was th whole point deduction and 5th round problems...and with that, there was no way miranda could win...

It wouldn't be controversial b/c he should have gotten the nod anyways. and yeah it prolly did help him in the long run with HBO He didnt deserve the decision, he lost on points. Didnt Abraham say he didnt want to continue after a illegal headbutt, so he would win the fight by DQ? When Abraham realized the ruling would be a TD or TKO for Abraham, he decided to fight, and outpointed Miranda the remaining rounds.

controversial? Everytime there is an article that mentions this fight, they always describe the decision as controversial. So, what if the tables were turned? would the decision still be viewed as a controversial one? The reason the fight is considered controversial is because Abraham should have been stopped in round 5. With the point deductions and scoring round by round, it was Abraham's fight.

It doesnt even matter now because look whos getting all the attention in the division, and getting the bigger money fights. Miranda is going to be on HBO for the third time since, and if he wins will probably headline a PPV with Taylor. He really was the winner in the long run. betta not be a ppv no way i don't think miranda name is that big... maybe if he make palivik look like shit then just just maybe.... HBO will judge by the number of people who turn in to see jt and crew

THe funny thing is the guy has yet to see the fight!!!! Miranda won the fight, so why would there be any controversy??? I know. I'm just trying to prove a point, and he didint see the fight? what kind of dude who has a certain boxer's picture all big as fuck in his signature, but does not watch his most defining victory, yet is so passionate about the certain boxer? seems kinda flaw to me?

controversial? Everytime there is an article that mentions this fight, they always describe the decision as controversial. So, what if the tables were turned? would the decision still be viewed as a controversial one? Probably....unless you condsider the fact that anywhere else on gods green earth the fight would have been stopped as soon as the ref asked abraham if he wanted to continue and he said no.....that should have been end of story.

It wouldn't be controversial b/c he should have gotten the nod anyways. and yeah it prolly did help him in the long run with HBO

It doesnt even matter now because look whos getting all the attention in the division, and getting the bigger money fights. Miranda is going to be on HBO for the third time since, and if he wins will probably headline a PPV with Taylor. He really was the winner in the long run. great point. Miranda is the real winner of that fight

It doesnt even matter now because look whos getting all the attention in the division, and getting the bigger money fights. Miranda is going to be on HBO for the third time since, and if he wins will probably headline a PPV with Taylor. He really was the winner in the long run. Yeah he was. Abraham keeps fighting in Germany against decent fighters, but not the best and Miranda gets airtime on HBO and gets to fight quality fighters and could even be an HBO superstar.