boxing needs a heavyweight superstar so badly,the death of the heavyweight division is going to be the death of boxing,there isnt even a sign of any great heavyweight coming out of nowhere and clearing up and its startin to get on my titties are there any prospects that look amazing? good isnt good enough,calvin brock looked ok but hes nothing special
People treat it like some kind of monumental for him beating up on a old and over a decade past his prime Tyson. It wasn't any different than Larry Holmes vs Ali, except Tyson took more punishment.
Agreed, i wouldnt put Lewis in the Class of Tyson, Clay, Louis and the like.
I know your hatred towards Lennox Lewis, but Come on man!
People treat it like some kind of monumental triumph him beating up on an old and over a decade past his prime Tyson. It wasn't any different than Larry Holmes vs Ali, except Tyson took more punishment.
I dont know alot about Ibragimov, but Maskaev I think would have a good chance. He's fundementally sound, strong, big puncher, if he brought the fight to Jones I'd like his chances.
Mate I used to watch Maskaev on eurosport, if he ever got in the ring with Roy Jones
I like his chances
Of getting a new heart and liver transplant in reasonable time.
Mercer was about 60% less the fighter he was at the time he fought Klitschko. Remember Lewis being stunned against Briggs? He overcame that and ended up winning easily. Klitschko on the other hand, has folded everytime he's been under pressure. I just don't think Klitschko has it in him to beat certain guys. I think his brother would have dominated the current crop of boxers though.
I've never denied Wladimir is talented, but it's one thing acknowledging his talent, and other thing saying he's been dominent and the saviour of the division.
mercer was on a 9 fight win streak and still hadnt been stopped at that point. he was damaged goods after wlad took him out,,,,not before although he probably wasnt quite the same guy as he was when he fought lewis
Still lasted 12 rounds against a Heavyweight Champion though, would you pick Maskev or Ibragimov over Roy Jones?
maskeav and ibrag are both much bigger punchers than ruiz. jones's chin wouldnt have held up. they'd have tagged it sooner or later
Forget this David Haye crap. Yeah he looked good in his last fight, but against a good big strong heavyweight, he will more than likely be tagged and knocked out.
Well he is fighting Brewster next.. so That is a start...
But its funny you mention Lewis having to go to war with Mercer whilst Klitschko Dominated him..
Klitschko had trouble with adversity because he is so GOOD he never had to face it..
Lewis lost to some dangerous opponents as well.. Just like Klitschko.. Klitschko when he fights dangerous guys and beats them.. they suddnley got exposed.. and were never that good anyways ..or washed up.. ect ect ect..
Mercer was about 60% less the fighter he was at the time he fought Klitschko. Remember Lewis being stunned against Briggs? He overcame that and ended up winning easily. Klitschko on the other hand, has folded everytime he's been under pressure. I just don't think Klitschko has it in him to beat certain guys. I think his brother would have dominated the current crop of boxers though.
I've never denied Wladimir is talented, but it's one thing acknowledging his talent, and other thing saying he's been dominent and the saviour of the division.
Still lasted 12 rounds against a Heavyweight Champion though, would you pick Maskev or Ibragimov over Roy Jones?
I dont know alot about Ibragimov, but Maskaev I think would have a good chance. He's fundementally sound, strong, big puncher, if he brought the fight to Jones I'd like his chances.
He beat John Ruiz in a fight that Ruiz didn't look at his most motivated to win. He just stood there and let Jones hit him after round 1.
Still lasted 12 rounds against a Heavyweight Champion though, would you pick Maskev or Ibragimov over Roy Jones?
I dont think Jones would've had success against superheavyweights like Wlad or Lewis. I think Jones could've had success against Heavy's like Ruiz, Evander (post Lewis Evander), and Rahman.
However, RJJ wasn't a HW superstar he was a superstar fighting at HW and was more of a freak attraction than a serious HW. I think to be a real HW superstar you have to be able to KO people. Only a big punching HW will be a big superstar.
Yeah guess so, i think people would have tuned in to see a guy who started at 160 fight at heavyweight tho, thats history in the making.
no. He's too small. I dont even know that he's naturally bigger than Hagler.
All that bulking up he did was probably bad for his health, even if he never went back down to Light heavyweight.
Roy Jones Jr. in his prime would have made a much better Heavyweight than James Toney at least... It would have brought more excitement to the Heavyweight division whether he could truly dominate or not. But you're right, he's far to small to be great at that weight. He's a natural 175 pounder and a bit short at 5'11" to jump two weight classes and take on natural 220 pounders. Bernard Hopkins would have made a better Heavyweight than Roy Jones at 6'1", but it's far to late for that now. Hopkins lacked the punching power to excel at that weight anyway...
Thing is, he won a belt a heavyweight anyway so we already know he could compete against some guys there.
He beat John Ruiz in a fight that Ruiz didn't look at his most motivated to win. He just stood there and let Jones hit him after round 1.
I think Roy Jones in his prime could have dominated the Heavyweight scene right now (minus Wlad and Vitali), i would even give him a chance against Vlad cos Jones was so quick no??
I dont think Jones would've had success against superheavyweights like Wlad or Lewis. I think Jones could've had success against Heavy's like Ruiz, Evander (post Lewis Evander), and Rahman.
However, RJJ wasn't a HW superstar he was a superstar fighting at HW and was more of a freak attraction than a serious HW. I think to be a real HW superstar you have to be able to KO people. Only a big punching HW will be a big superstar.
He fought in the amateurs at 154. He's put on so much muscle from teh time he turned pro.
Thing is, he won a belt a heavyweight anyway so we already know he could compete against some guys there.
Nah he's bigger then haggler surely, Thing is, Jones was pure muscle at 175 and he won a belt at heavyweight so it isnt inconcievable that he can beat Maskev, Briggs, Ibragimov, Brock etc.
He fought in the amateurs at 154. He's put on so much muscle from teh time he turned pro.