Question...if Calzaghe,Hatton are so good...

I'm not sure what the point of this thread is? I mean its not as if PPV is doing the sport any good so who cares who is on it (which is dictated by the networks anyway). Boxing as a sport has declined in popularity over the last 30 years, this has been intensified by PPV. I was not shocked by the amount of people certainly here in the UK who had never heard of Floyd Mayweather or DLH, in the eighties when Hagler fought Leonard it was a spectacle, everyone spoke about it and both fighters were household names. Sadly this is no longer the case and PPV has had a big part to play in that!

So the Tszyu fight is close to or exceeding a million buys, when accounting for population, and it was on at half past stupid in the morning in England. I watched it here in Canada. Yeah, that crossed my mind earlier. Tszyu wasn't a name fighter over here either. Got to say I'm pretty amazed at the Joe C v Lacy figures. It was on a free channel but still impressive given the time of the fight.

So the Tszyu fight is close to or exceeding a million buys, when accounting for population, and it was on at half past stupid in the morning in England. I watched it here in Canada.

If you extrapolate the 132,000 buys for the Maussa fight by 5 to account for population difference that's like a half a million buys in the US. Indeed. Naz used to get 3-400k and that's DLH country per capita.

If you extrapolate the 132,000 buys for the Maussa fight by 5 to account for population difference that's like a half a million buys in the US.

Fuck off http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/s/204/204308_boxing_hatton_camp_in_bbc_talks.html thats because no-one likes to pay for PPV's over here

It was a promotion of Warren's. Prove you wrong? Frank Warren's News of the World column every single week for the last two years. There's false info in every article, every last one! Yes, prove me wrong. Let's see the links to these "4 figure viewing figures" of your's.

No it didn't. Fuck off http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/s/204/204308_boxing_hatton_camp_in_bbc_talks.html

It's false. It was probably more than 200k given that Warren was trying to belittle him in that interview. Prove me wrong, dipshit. Holyfield was fighting and the Lewis-Tyson build-up. Holyfield was fighting at prime UK viewing time, was he? Thought not. Sorry, but nobody stays in on a Saturday night to watch a 10 minute fight build up. No it didn't. Yes it did, found the link earlier. Prove me wrong. The Urango fight had 1.5mil US viewers too.

PPV is a very very bad thing for the sport. So why on earth would someone use it as a barometer to rate fighters against? We should be applauding those fighting on channels which are free to watch. I agree to that. PPV sucks big-time. Not because of me having to pay money, but limiting the public access to the big fights, means possible new fans have to be lured in by crappy weekday cards and so on.. They are killing boxing, and I can only applaud the fighter/promoter/network for doing it differently.

Not one Hatton fight has been watched by as much as 200,000 people in Britain. You're so full of shit. The Tszyu fight did 200,000 PPV buys and that was hardly prime time viewing. http://www.frankwarren.tv/drill/News/Articles/2006/03/07/calzgahe-lacy-draws-2m.html The Magee fight had 350,000 viewers. http://www.secondsout.com/uk/colevans.cfm?ccs=217&cs=12109 In 1 year alone Hatton was mainly responsible for cumulative viewing figures of 3mil on Sky TV. Even the Maussa fight got 132,000 PPVs. Google motherfucker. Learn how to use it instead of just inventing shit, you freak.

This has been a good learning session for me... If you are a fight fan,its much better to be in England...cheaper anyway.

Not one Hatton fight has been watched by as much as 200,000 people in Britain. Do you have a source for this?

PPV is crap. True it is killing the sport. caus normal ppl aint buying it so they aint watching it. Look at how much popular Calzaghe has become to the main public not he has been on normal TV. Hatton is only famous now because he was on sky sports before. Casual boxing fans wont spend £30 on a PPV, heck not even some of us will.

You see, in Britain it is rather different than the US. We don't have to pay stupid amounts of money to watch the fights, Hatton is the only one whose fights our shown on Box Office. All of the others are either terrestrial tv, or you can watch on basic cable. Would it make Joe Calzaghe a better fighter if he made the British public pay to see his fights?

mayweather vs. de la hoya wasnt on PPV in england

PPV is a very very bad thing for the sport. So why on earth would someone use it as a barometer to rate fighters against? We should be applauding those fighting on channels which are free to watch.

Hatton has headlined on sky PPV for the last coule of years. He'll be fighting on a different PPV Channel Setanta Sports next. It doesn't matter if his fights aren't PPV in the states, almsot all US PPV cards are "free" on Sky over here. Calzaghe is contracted to ITV, a free channel.

That's ridiculous. If they had chosen a bigger venue, DLH-Mayweather could have double or tripled the attendance. Buying a PPV is essentially like a buying a ticket for the fight... Then they should've done. They should also not have been charging thousands upon thousands of pounds for the tickets and they shouldnt be so fucking greedy in wanting double figures of millions each only to put on an underwhelming fight. People in that crowd will have worked all year along to pay the $10,000 for some of the tickets and for what? To see Maywhether run away and DLH run out of steam? I'd rather see a Hatton fight free on the TV or for £50 to go to the fight and watch him fight knowing that he'll actually respect the money I've spent to see him. Even if he does just end up hugging his opponent, at least I've not bankrupted myself for the privledge of seeing an underwhelming performance.

15,000 tickets were sold to residents of Bolton, and there was a 15-fight undercard. I dont care mate. I consider lots of tickets sold for a boxing event more impressive than lots of money by charging ridiculous amounts for the tickets. I also find boxers fighting on terrestrial television for free more impressive than selling loads of PPVs. Cos as a boxing fan, I dont fucking want to pay for the stuff. Like I said, it might make you more popular, or a 'bigger name', but I simply wont ever support boxers who I have to pay a fortune to follow their career, and it certainly doesnt make you a 'better' fighter. I also dont much care for your notoriously 'made up' facts and figures anyway.