I could be wrong, but I didn't hear too much coming from roach in the corner . We didn't get to see a lot in the corner, and I know it's always a good idea to let your fighter rest inbetween rounds and only give him bits of info at a time and not swarm him, but I think de la hoya coulda been pushed a bit more and fired up, not just a mumble of throw the jab son. I think A de La Hoya who showed up and fought on his toes, used his jab and tryed to set up a bit better rather than the follow floyd to the ropes and swing wild tactic, would have done a bit better. Could this possibly be because of Roach? Maybe the Mayweather Sr and Roach styles were too diff for de la hoya to adjust in just in just one fight. He just looked a bit confused and bewildered. Decent fight though.
I remember watching De La Hoya 24/7
QUOTES:
(DLH, Roach, and some other guy watching Corralles vs. Mayweather)
"Look, Corralles isn't jabbing."
"You see that? He just wants to engage the fight"
Has the infamous Floyd been figured out? Jabs and Body shots are his weakness?
first lesson in boxing: the Jab is the most important punch in boxing
that is nothing new many people when the didnt jab they looked worse
I remember watching De La Hoya 24/7
QUOTES:
(DLH, Roach, and some other guy watching Corralles vs. Mayweather)
"Look, Corralles isn't jabbing."
"You see that? He just wants to engage the fight"
Has the infamous Floyd been figured out? Jabs and Body shots are his weakness?
I disagree. How can you blame Roach for Oscar getting tired? Are you going to blame Freddie because Toney came in way overweight for his last few fights? There are some things you can control as a trainer and some you can't. Oscar has a conditioning coach, if anyone is to blame it's either him or Oscar himself, for not working hard enough.
he lost because he lost it not the trainer who is going to fight for him.
anyway the trainer is been hired by the fighter
I didnt really hear Roach at all. He is overhyped, he worked with fighter that were already good like Toney, and Pacmans non stop aggression would smother people like he has been doin regardless of his trainer. The least he could of done was have Oscar in shape and Oscar seem tired from the 4th round on. Maybe the rematch he will work with Floyd Sr since Floyd Sr. said he won.
I disagree. How can you blame Roach for Oscar getting tired? Are you going to blame Freddie because Toney came in way overweight for his last few fights? There are some things you can control as a trainer and some you can't. Oscar has a conditioning coach, if anyone is to blame it's either him or Oscar himself, for not working hard enough.
forreal,thats what im sayin. Even Oscar practically said it wasnt the night for the jab.As in he wasnt listening,u can say all u want to fighters,but if they dont do then nothing can be done.
And I agree with this 100% . It just didn't seem like there was a fire in DLH's corner. He looked confused in the corner man. You know he comes out looking all bad ass and then he is sitting there looking like a lost puppy. Although we didn't get to see much of the DLH corner, everytime we did Roach's no plan - plan was in effect^^.
Freddy was telling Oscar to jab since the start of the fight, Oscar just didn't listen to him.
forreal,thats what im sayin. Even Oscar practically said it wasnt the night for the jab.As in he wasnt listening,u can say all u want to fighters,but if they dont do then nothing can be done.
I think De La Hoya would have done better with FLoyd SR. Sr said he thought DLH won on points, and he also said he felt his son challeneging his fighter was a challenege to him. DLH may not have won either with SR in his corner, but I think he would look a bit less dazed, confused, tired, and just not fucking knowing what to do. Freddie roach cut the camera on 24/7 because he didn't want anyone to see that his actual plan was to not have a plan. I just think DLH would been more comfortable with SR and I think it would have been an opportunity to show up FLoyd and Roger. Personally I would have went with the SR .
I didnt really hear Roach at all. He is overhyped, he worked with fighter that were already good like Toney, and Pacmans non stop aggression would smother people like he has been doin regardless of his trainer. The least he could of done was have Oscar in shape and Oscar seem tired from the 4th round on. Maybe the rematch he will work with Floyd Sr since Floyd Sr. said he won.
Hopkins was yelling to Oscar to jab, probably did a better job than Roach.
I don't think I saw Roach through the whole fight, it kept on showing little advertisements and Floyd's corner.
indeed Roach didn't provide the motovation in between rounds like Floyd Sr would do
Oscar should've used his jab to get mayweather in the corner and throw bombs.....
Man, Oscar did the best anyone has against Floyd in recent times. Did you really think an out of prime and older Oscar could pull it off? I was thankful he didn't tire that bad as his usual. He did improve greatly and it was shown. Floyd is just too much at this point for Oscar at his stage. The key thing that nobody seems to be able to crack is Floyd's defense. It's just impossible to land clean and if you do, just as hard to follow up.