Not many people are gonna watch Mayweather/DLH

We're not saying this fight is going to be the magnitude of an Ali-Frazier, Ali-Foreman or Benn-Eubank II (all three eclipsing 1 billion viewers), but it's great for American boxing fans and Hispanish communities etc and the ghetto rappers and stuff. you're such a silly cat; my computer won't let me give you karma; that's weird.

Not a Haye fan? It's just I don't like it when everyone gets excited by the raw 'potential' of a guy who sucks, when there are in fact plenty of genuinely good fighters out there.

2 million buys could equal 50 million people. I don't think it could. Whilst you might get a load of people watching it in bars there will equally be a lot of people watching it on their own or with just two or three people. I think an average of 6 people per buy is fair.

Oh and by the way, sorry about the Canadian and European comment. It was just my big fat American mouth speaking before thinking. I still think that 2 million ppv buys is still great for boxing.

2 million buys could equal 50 million people. Wrestling has 12-16 PPVs a year for 35 bucks each btw. They do just fine. Not as big as they used to be but just fine. Boxing needs to be on cable television more than they need to stop the ppvs, although that would help too.

The Brit promoters are to blame for treating Harrison as if he ever had a chance to do anything but disgrace his sport; every boxing fan worth a shit knew he sucked; they better not make the same mistake with Haye. Not a Haye fan?

The Brit promoters are to blame for treating Harrison as if he ever had a chance to do anything but disgrace his sport; every boxing fan worth a shit knew he sucked; they better not make the same mistake with Haye.

Fine. But, what then makes it different from all other PPV's, if it is going to draw in MORE people ? Couldn't this same thread be created about every PPV in history ? Exactly. That's my point. I'm using this huge fight to show how in general ppv's hurt boxing. 12 million people (ish) will watch the fight in the states whereas every match in the football (soccer) world cup - EVERY MATCH - averaged 93 MILLION viewers. The final was viewed by 333 millon!!! During the superbowl, advertising is sold at $2.2 million for every 30 seconds. The 2006 superbowl was reportedly viewed by 97 million people. These are the sort of events that, in my opinion, a fight like this should be competing with in terms of appeal. Boxing is an incredibly popular sport when marketed correctly - look at Amir Khan vs Mario Kindelan and Danny Williams vs Audley Harrison over here. I had loads of people coming up to me after that telling me that they had watched it, particularly with Khan. I had girls who thought boring was the worst sport on the planet coming up to me and telling me they had enjoyed it, and I had loads of people coming up to me after the Audley fight telling me how shit boxing was (goddamn you A-Farce). Who is the most famous sportsman of all time, globally? Muhammad Ali. Rocky is one of the most popular films of all time and one that almost everyone has seen a la Star Wars or The Godfather. My point isn't that this shouldnt be a ppv but that promoters could make more money in the long run from advertising revenue if boxing were generally free. More people would know about it. Whilst it's not ppv, if boxing were bigger in the states it would probably be bigger all over the world. To the guy that said there will always be a demand for boxing - you're absolutely right, of course there will. But as I said, John H Stracey vs Jose Napoles drew hundreds of millions of viewers world wide. That fight wasnt as big as this one - boxing was just more popular because it was more accessible. Those days can come back. My point of the thread title is that whilst, yes, ppv records might be broken for this fight, 12 million people is not a lot of people and that a hell of a lot more should be interested and should be watching what should be a great advertising for the greatest sport on the planet.

Fine. But, what then makes it different from all other PPV's, if it is going to draw in MORE people ? Couldn't this same thread be created about every PPV in history ? By implication, it is being made; the fact that boxing fights are PPV events means only a fringe culture watches them. The Super Bowl by contrast is free but creates revenue through advertisements. It makes at least as much money, but more people see it. What if a network bought the rights to a fight like this, and sold the commercial slots at near-SB rates? Could it profit while showing a fight to a mass audience in this day and age? I don't know the answer to this.

The high price tag is not preventing it from doing great PPV numbers relative to other boxing matches, it's preventing the event from being seen by mass audiences. His point is that even if ten million people total (2 million buys x 5 people watching per buy) are to watch the fight, that's not nearly as many as would watch if the fight were more easily (and affordably) available. I think he makes a fair point; it's not a doomsday point, just reminding that even a 'big' event is still being sold only to a relative fringe market. Fine. But, what then makes it different from all other PPV's, if it is going to draw in MORE people ? Couldn't this same thread be created about every PPV in history ?

Wire..... You started off by saying this fight has a great chance of setting the record for the most PPV buys.....then say the high price tag is holding it back. Well, then what the hell was it that kept the previous PPV from doing better than this one will do ? I don't get it. The high price tag is not preventing it from doing great PPV numbers relative to other boxing matches, it's preventing the event from being seen by mass audiences. His point is that even if ten million people total (2 million buys x 5 people watching per buy) are to watch the fight, that's not nearly as many as would watch if the fight were more easily (and affordably) available. I think he makes a fair point; it's not a doomsday point, just reminding that even a 'big' event is still being sold only to a relative fringe market.

Wire..... You started off by saying this fight has a great chance of setting the record for the most PPV buys.....then say the high price tag is holding it back. Well, then what the hell was it that kept the previous PPV from doing better than this one will do ? I don't get it.

It might break the record for ppv buys of 2million. 2 MILLION!?!?! That's not a lot of people watching. Eastenders gets more than that and it's on four times a week. The sheer cost of ppv's in America is what's destroying boxing. The sport it eating itself, promoters and TV companies are too greedy and before long no one will be watching boxing. It'll end up the new showjumping. :lame: Lol, i do hope you are joking, Eastenders aint pay per view at $54.99 a time, if it was, it would do shit numbers. Enough with the prophetic statements about Boxing in decline, its bullshit, there will always be a demand for boxing. Chillout.

Last time I checked, PBF was a 2:1 favorite...that's not a "pretty big favorite" by any means. thats a bigger favorite than in the other superfights i mentioned(leonard/hearns, oscar/tito, ali/frazier).... thats what keeps this fight from comparing to those.... pbf at 2 to 1 is a clear fav, where as those fights it was about a toss up...

however i DO NOT agree that this is a "fight of the century" type fight, since PBF is a pretty big favorite Last time I checked, PBF was a 2:1 favorite...that's not a "pretty big favorite" by any means.

i think this will be a HUGE PPV and will do giant #'s.... mostly because of oscar.... however i DO NOT agree that this is a "fight of the century" type fight, since PBF is a pretty big favorite.... oscar/tito, ali/frazier, leonard/hearns were all close to even fights.. IMO they were much bigger/more important fights than this one....

OK, congratulations on completely missing my point there. What I'm saying is that whilst ppv records stand at 2 million people - 2 MILLION PEOPLE IS NOT A LOT Eastenders (a British soap opera on four times a week) gets 8 million viewer EVERY TIME IT'S ON. If ppv's were cheaper perhaps more people would buy them and the promoters would actually make more money. In a country as big as America a fight as big as this should be hitting 20, 30 even 50 million buys. Not 2. That 2 million viewers comes to over 100 million for a single days broadcast. Granted; there's millions invested off the top, and it's cut more times than homeless pie - but regardless, that money makes sense to HBO. I mean.. HBO isn't running infomercials the other 364 days of year.. That money is all good. Try to keep in mind it's going to be the biggest shot in the arm Boxing has had in a spell.. Well... Depending on whether or not it gets ugly.. :lol1: And by ugly I do mean offensive. If Oscar and Floyd really care about Boxing they'll give us something special. Hopefully, all their talent and experience adds up to understanding this. :purity: This isn't just about them. How does the saying go?... Oh yeah. :fing02: "It's not just about winning and losing."

It's being shown on sky in the UK I heard, it would be tough to sell it as a ppv due to the time difference. It would also be tough to sell it as a ppv as very few people know it's happening outside of hardcore boxing fans. I just said to a guy at uni that one of the biggest boxing matches in about fifteen years was on on Saturday - he had no idea whatsoever. And he watches most of the big matches that are on on ITV1 (the heayweights and Calzaghe, really), and had no fucking idea. It really isnt big over here at all, which is a shame.

It's being shown on sky in the UK I heard, it would be tough to sell it as a ppv due to the time difference.

ermm, in the UK at least a pub can't just order the ppv for one house and screen it to 100s of people. there are special rates for public places with uch higher costs. But I doubt it will get very high viewing over here compared to heavyweight fights or domestic fighters.