Mike Tyson embraces VANES and Recognizes Armenian Genocide

Demiturk open your eyes and look at reality as it is. Stop denying it and living in a fairy tale.

Demiturk you want me to give you an example of propaganda? Soghomon Telaryan assasinated Talat Pasha, one of the Young Turk leaders, guilty for the systematic killings of the Armenians. In a Turkish movie they portray Telaryan admiting that he shouldn't have killed Talat Pasha since Talat was an innocent man. LOL that is what propaganda is. The Turkish people watch these movies and think that they are factually correct. I bet you dont even know who Talat Pasha was.

arthur abraham is a quitter! :boxing: lolll I couldn't agree more... hmm ok I got a broken jaw... fuck it ill still keep fighting on... ohh, fight is over... oh yaaaa I WIN BY UNANIMOUS FUCKIN DECISION. thats definitely a quitter ;) u dumbass

BTW this professor was also charged with insulting TURKISHNESS Here you go "Akçam declared himself an accessory to the charges against Hrant Dink, and urged readers to join in Dink's support. Later in January of 2007 an Istanbul court decided not to pursue the charges against Akçam." that aint a turk man , its an armenian in disguise . lol

Don't argue with me or else I will bring more facts into light. why dont you do it then.

Don't argue with me or else I will bring more facts into light.

BTW this professor was also charged with insulting TURKISHNESS Here you go "Akçam declared himself an accessory to the charges against Hrant Dink, and urged readers to join in Dink's support. Later in January of 2007 an Istanbul court decided not to pursue the charges against Akçam."

This is another fact on Justin McCarthy. McCarthy is known for his controversial challenge of the view that there was an Armenian Genocide. He was also one of four scholars who participated in a debate hosted by PBS over the veracity of the genocide. Television critic Alessandra Stanley of The New York Times commented on McCarthy's condescending behavior during the program and the ease at which his arguments were countered by humanities professor Peter Balakian and Ottoman historian Taner Akçam.2] BTW Taner Akçam is a TURKISH SCHOLAR GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT NEXT TIME YOU COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE.

You have very little education on the topic. Your arguments are crap. What do I gain from Turkey's acceptance you idiot? The only thing I will gain is justice for my grandmother and her family. "your country sends biased armenians historians to the conference" -Hey SOAB, the world has recognized what the Turks have done to our culture/people. Live with it. McCarthy is not a scholar that is going to change the current situation of Turkey losing the war. It can keep its bullshit propaganda between its people.

Let me clear one more thing with you. It is a proven fact that Armenians did not have a militia in the Ottoman Empire before the systematic killings of Armenians. So your argument that it was a civil war is BULLSHIT. Armenians did not even have guns to fight back the Turks during this time in history. How is it a civil war when all the young men were called in and killed before the whole population was evacuated to the Syrian desert? You are a good example of what Turkey is doing to its citizens. It is spreading lies, and covering them up by funding incompetant historians to come up with vague and useless information. golddiger. everything you are saying is personal. you don't have one valid argument, i brought american professors to the scene, while you say ony what you think . your country sends biased armenians historians to the conference, while we get represented by professors from other country's .

Let me clear one more thing with you. It is a proven fact that Armenians did not have a militia in the Ottoman Empire before the systematic killings of Armenians. So your argument that it was a civil war is BULLSHIT. Armenians did not even have guns to fight back the Turks during this time in history. How is it a civil war when all the young men were called in and killed before the whole population was evacuated to the Syrian desert? You are a good example of what Turkey is doing to its citizens. It is spreading lies, and covering them up by funding incompetant historians to come up with vague and useless information.

Hey demiturk, Professor McCarthys statements were proven to be misleading and incorrect several time by Professor Levon Marashilian in a history conference in Turkey. McCarthy's work is also funded by the Turkish government. So please dont bring his work into this argument. + you dont even know what facts he has to back his evidence up. But at the same time u dont care about the facts since you are brainwashed to just care about the end result. Next time you post something back it up with evidence. And what do you have to say about Article 301. You dont want to talk about it anymore after being proven wrong?

another american : Prof. Samuel A. Weems said allegations are a lie http://www.theturkishtimes.com/archive/02/08_15/o_weems.html

http://www.armenianreality.com/armenian_terror/mccarthy.htm british professon , show me some facts that were brought up other then armenian professors. Professor McCarthy: Armenian genocide is British propaganda Renown U.S. historian and expert on Ottoman affairs, Professor Justin McCarthy said allegations of Armenian genocide are British propaganda

Here are several facts from wiki buddy: Memorize them. ORHAN PAMUK In 2005, lawyers of two Turkish professional associations brought criminal charges against Pamuk after the author made a statement regarding the mass killings of Armenians and Kurds in Anatolia. The charges were dropped on 22 January 2006. He has subsequently stated his intent was to draw attention to freedom of expression issues. The criminal charges against Pamuk resulted from remarks he made during an interview in February 2005 with the Swiss publication Das Magazin, a weekly supplement to a number of Swiss daily newspapers: the Tages-Anzeiger, the Basler Zeitung, the Berner Zeitung and the Solothurner Tagblatt. In the interview, Pamuk stated, "Thirty thousand Kurds, and a million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody dares to talk about it." HRANT DINK Article 301 has been used to bring charges against writer Orhan Pamuk for stating, in an interview with a Swiss magazine, that "Thirty thousand Kurds and a million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody but me dares to talk about it". The charges were later dropped. There you go, I dont have time to get more info on other authors. These cases were dropped due to international pressure from the EU and US. NExt time dont deny the facts 1.5 Armenians were systematically killed in Eastern Anatola from 1915-1917 :) Long live our fedayees. http://www.armenian-genocide-lie.com/ check it out. your gouvernment refused to show us anything.

Here are several facts from wiki buddy: Memorize them. ORHAN PAMUK In 2005, lawyers of two Turkish professional associations brought criminal charges against Pamuk after the author made a statement regarding the mass killings of Armenians and Kurds in Anatolia. The charges were dropped on 22 January 2006. He has subsequently stated his intent was to draw attention to freedom of expression issues. The criminal charges against Pamuk resulted from remarks he made during an interview in February 2005 with the Swiss publication Das Magazin, a weekly supplement to a number of Swiss daily newspapers: the Tages-Anzeiger, the Basler Zeitung, the Berner Zeitung and the Solothurner Tagblatt. In the interview, Pamuk stated, "Thirty thousand Kurds, and a million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody dares to talk about it." HRANT DINK Article 301 has been used to bring charges against writer Orhan Pamuk for stating, in an interview with a Swiss magazine, that "Thirty thousand Kurds and a million Armenians were killed in these lands and nobody but me dares to talk about it". The charges were later dropped. There you go, I dont have time to get more info on other authors. These cases were dropped due to international pressure from the EU and US. NExt time dont deny the facts 1.5 Armenians were systematically killed in Eastern Anatola from 1915-1917 :) Long live our fedayees.

Hey demiturk, You just tried to deny that Turkey punishes scholars who talk about the Armenian Genocide. YOu lost your credibility. You dont even know Article 301 of the Turkish penal code and you are saying there was no genocide. Big words from an uneducated law school student. i clicked on your link , all it said was people who talk bad about turkey , the armenian genocide wasn't mentioned .

Hey demiturk, You just tried to deny that Turkey punishes scholars who talk about the Armenian Genocide. YOu lost your credibility. You dont even know Article 301 of the Turkish penal code and you are saying there was no genocide. Big words from an uneducated law school student.

yes it would take a brave turk to stand up! but they will kill them if they do. such a shame imagine that some turks who will stand up for the truth and then get assasinated because they called out there own government on there lies...this is why they are scared to talk or to think outside of the brainwash for fear of murder. no one will kill me , ! i live in belgium ! i go to law school , i try to learn a lot about the history of turkey , but i was born in belgium . so i don't know everything, i just find it fishy these genocide allegations popping up right when turkey is trying to get in the EU. its all about $$$$ , why didn't the armmenians go to the european court of human rights before?? they could have made this the biggest news there is but they didn't they do it know. because when turkey enters EU = more money for turkey (and EU) , so armenians want some of that money ! you do know that gemany still pays the jews for what they have done? i'm not saying that there was a genocide , but this is what the armenians want to.

hey demiturk why are you so angry at the armenians man? why not just apologize and recognize the tragedy of so many of them dying by the hands of your ancestors? its a lost cause with him bro, dont even try. He is one of many young turks that have been brainwashed by their own governments propoganda since he was born. Their history books are re-written to deny genocide, their TV programs deny it and mock it, they burn books in the streets and condemn those publicly speaking of the Armenain Genocide. It would take a veryyy courageous and knowledgable young Turkish boy/girl to really face the facts and stand up for what is right, stand up for HUMAN RIGHTS. unfortunately, that is too much to ask for now a days.