guzman would pound pacquiao's ass!!

Calling Salva Dominico. This just basically sums up all the things that you should try harder with. Slick but pillow punches will not work. Pretty isn't going to stay pretty against PAC. It has been seen in the past that when you can't hurt PAC, he will just walk right through you. At this point in time he is nearly impossible to simply outbox because he makes jabs useless with his overhand right hooks and slipping uppercuts. We all know the jab is the initial weapon and most important tool in trying to outbox an opponent. But that won't work against PAC BECAUSE HE IS A SOUTHPAW. And with Guzman's pillow punches, if you're imagining him running circles around PAC, I suggest don't. PAC has the faster hands and the same quickness of feet. And since Guzman is a pillow puncher who can't KO a sub-par Terdsak, just imagine what PAC will do to him. I have always kept repeating this. The only way to win against PAC is to attack and push him back. Morales already laid down the blueprint for victory against PAC. Slick will only get you figured out. Relying on your jab too much will only get you bombed. One has to hurt and discourage PAC or else he will just bomb you nonstop. His wins against p4p all-time greats establishes my claim. Now Salva Dominico, let's see how you manuever through this. search through threads and found this. I didnt even see this post til now lol.. this guy is talkin' straight nonsense. and he responded to someone else's post and hurled it towards me when i already made him look like an ass. i dont get it....

Yes, Joan Guzman will destroy PAC. Guzman is so strong that the last guy he KO'ed was way back in February of 2004. Lets count...thats errr...3 years and no KO's??Lol...And dont forget Tersdak Jandaeng also lasted the full 12 rounds against Joan. Yep, the same tomato can that JMM wiped out in 7 rounds...Im sure PAC will fear Guzmans power..LOL...what a joke... Speed??Oh yes he has some.In fact he got a split decision against the slooow Barrios...I wonder why some people here highlight Joans victory against Barrios.It was a split decision for gods sake!...Oh I forgot, no other victory of old man (yep, he is no longer in his 20's..lol) Guzman is hardly worth mentioning...Sorry my bad...LOL.. Easy KO for PAC if their match takes place...This fight wont happen.Pac has bigger fish to fry than an old, overhyped fighter who cant KO Jandaeng! ;P

if pacman was the same fighter he was agaisnt mab, jmm & the 1st morales fight id say guzman would beat him EASILY, cause all he would do is jab and throw he's straight left, but now his got his right hand working well and he throws some good combos! it would be a good fight and i see guzman winning a VERY close decision, but all it takes is 1 clean shot from pac to end it! guzmans chin would sure get a good workout!

evidence of what? idk, ask him :lol1:

funny thread..... :D

Both are great fighters but i have to go with Pac. Guzman hasn't KO anybody since moving up in weight. The only known fighter he fought is Barrios. With Pac, cuz of his speed and retaining some of his punching power since moving up, he has won by KO/TKO. Pac also fought Sasakul, Ledwabe, Larios, JMM, Morales, and Barrera. But the one most important thing for Pac to beat Guzman is Freddie Roach. Roach knows how Pac fights and trains Manny the way he needs to beat the style of his opponent. Wans't there a post where Emmanulle Stewart(or Steward) said that his willing to train Pac when Roach was signed by Dela Hoya. Steward will try to make Pac more of a boxer but it will not work on Pac and will result in defeat.

Its getting boring now this post

guzman by UD over pacquiao, make this fight happen!! Remove that redneck from your avatar. Oh and BTW-How you got so many posts when you don't know shit bout boxing? :nonono:

both guys are ridiculously fast point a to point b it gonna be a tie but punchin in combinations and maintaing the speed easily guzman the fluetity of his punches and mixing in various punches into one barrage so seemlessly and and the constant speed then punching with power easily pac the crushing weight of his punches the thudding crashing of his fist each person decided which they prefer but not one of these guys is faster then the other nice post.

both guys are ridiculously fast point a to point b it gonna be a tie but punchin in combinations and maintaing the speed easily guzman the fluetity of his punches and mixing in various punches into one barrage so seemlessly and and the constant speed then punching with power easily pac the crushing weight of his punches the thudding crashing of his fist each person decided which they prefer but not one of these guys is faster then the other

Where is DA FUCKIN" EVIDENCE????? :lol1: evidence of what?

so if i knew the story, there "would" be a point in telling me? ... embrace me with your "knowledge" of why pac got KO'd. so far, he lost to marquez cuz of the socks and he lost to morales cuz of the blood in his eyes. what else is there? and ill state my post again... its so funny how blind u r. since when is power a skill? a fat guy has power. for pac its a blessing. your argument right there doesnt even make sense. having great defense is a skill. pac's right hand is a skill. if u want to present an argument please do it right. "try harder dude". u seem to have trouble defining power as a skill? u know why? cuz its not. if u want to speak truth, stop bring up excuses as to why u deem others' responses as insufficient. otherwise u can keep arguing like a little girl.Where is DA FUCKIN" EVIDENCE????? :lol1:

Since you don't know, there is no point telling you. so if i knew the story, there "would" be a point in telling me? ... embrace me with your "knowledge" of why pac got KO'd. so far, he lost to marquez cuz of the socks and he lost to morales cuz of the blood in his eyes. what else is there? and ill state my post again... its so funny how blind u r. since when is power a skill? a fat guy has power. for pac its a blessing. your argument right there doesnt even make sense. having great defense is a skill. pac's right hand is a skill. if u want to present an argument please do it right. "try harder dude". u seem to have trouble defining power as a skill? u know why? cuz its not. if u want to speak truth, stop bring up excuses as to why u deem others' responses as insufficient. otherwise u can keep discrediting others' posts like a little girl.

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! :lol1:

Yeah bro any good fast boxer could beat pac,pac is sloppy and is just a brawler who could be outboxed easily. of course any fast boxer could outbox Pac, before they are knocked-out. :nana:

Do you know the story behind those defeats? I bet you don't. And until you do research it first before your arguments overturn against you. Try harder. Beliefs without basis and proper arguments mean nothing. oohh what did he have bad socks? owned.

Do it right? Lols Its funny that you only appeared now that our argument earlier has subsided. But then I will remind it to you. A vid was posted by Alibata earlier and it concerns PAC and Guzman on separate vids. Before you talk to me raising a new point dude, go back a few posts and answer my arguments to you first. Don't play dumb dude. You purposely ignored evidence and now you raise new arguments without answering old ones. Try harder dude. Answer my points first that I raised to you before you talk to me about new issues. that was footage of him throwing speed punches. guzman was hitting mitts and working on technique. show me a vid where manny is throwing more than 4 punches at a time on mitts. until then try harder. and u just got owned. thanks for ignoring my previous post.

M8 trust me i aint shot my load just yet hehehe But im working on it...

Boo hoo hoo thats all im hearing now,,. You are falling into the "Im a stalker" type fan of manny now m8... Since when is power a skill? hehehe ya man up top beat me to it what a classic... So that already shows the level of conversation were having here... Why isnt it allowed for me to believe that Marquez could beat Pacman in a rematch? When u get ur back up and start chatting crazy shite you start to sound like a serial cheerleader... . A lot of so-called "experts" have eaten crow time and time and time again and it seems these guys are the new breed. So now were experts 2? lol Im no where near the level of an expert Ive just watched boxing my whole life and love the sport why are u trying to make out that im some sort of Manny hata? Im not a hata im a fan but im not blind to facts.. I really believe Marquez can beat manny.. Now getting back to the topic, you have yet to present basis as to why Guzman will pwn PAC. Fucking hell a minute ago it was present a basis as to why i think Marquez will own him im starting to think im on Blue peter here

Marquez dosent have to KO manny to win the fight? Manny and Marquez on skill level Marquez is heaps way ahead of him.. Rustico Torrecampo didnt have much power and he OWNED manny Medgoen Singsurat neither both sparked manny out in the 3rd Rd.. Manny gets away with his mistakes through having so much power.. I dont believe Marquez will outright OWN manny i just think he will beat him,, Guzman as the topic title says Would Pound his ass lol very sad but true. manny got KO'ed by people with worse resume's, skills, and power than guzman. but it will never happen again... or will it?