As you can see by the name i was a big fan of Ray Leonard growing up. I just wanted to read what your opinions are of him as a fighter. How good do you think he really was? In my opinion i thought his prime was 1978 thru 1982. I don't think the 1987 thru 1991 version of Leonard is even in the same ballpark as the one in his prime. He lost 5 years from 82 to 87 due to the detached retina. Had he not lost those 5 years,how do you think his career would have turned out? Here are some opponents he would have likely faced
Aaron pryor
Marvin Hagler - But in 1982/83 In Hagler's prime
Donald Curry - Around 1984
Lloyd Honeyghan - Around 1985
Mike McCallum - At 154 pounds 1986
he's a great boxer no doubt.
Can I just say that you definitely have one of the best sigs on this Forum. But it amazes me what the admin will let you get away with...there seems to be hardly any admin on here at all...ever.
It is an easy equation. Marvin was supposedly the greatest middleweight of all time, and SRL the welterweight beat him. It doesnt take a maths genius to come up with the conclusion that SRL is a true great. Deterioated a bit fast.....but still great.
Just exactly how great we can debate untill the cows come home. Is he as good as the original SRR, ALi, etc ? Some would say yes but not SRL and myself but the fact that it would be debated....
leanord is very overated hearns was beating him and his legs gave out, duran leanord 2 was a fix, and he ducked prime hagler
Ray did have Tommy almost knocked out in the 6th round of that 1st fight. He could have put him away much earlier then that 14th round. He let him off the hook.
As you can see by the name i was a big fan of Ray Leonard growing up. I just wanted to read what your opinions are of him as a fighter. How good do you think he really was? In my opinion i thought his prime was 1978 thru 1982. I don't think the 1987 thru 1991 version of Leonard is even in the same ballpark as the one in his prime. He lost 5 years from 82 to 87 due to the detached retina. Had he not lost those 5 years,how do you think his career would have turned out? Here are some opponents he would have likely faced
Aaron pryor
Marvin Hagler - But in 1982/83 In Hagler's prime
Donald Curry - Around 1984
Lloyd Honeyghan - Around 1985
Mike McCallum - At 154 pounds 1986
no question SRL is G.O.A.T
leanord is very overated hearns was beating him and his legs gave out, duran leanord 2 was a fix, and he ducked prime hagler
LOL!!!
Hearns legs gave out!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!
He just fell over did he? :hail:
Heres another way to look at things....
He FOUGHT for 15 rounds with a prime Duran (even if he was at welter)
He stopped a prime undeafeted Hearns.
He came out of retirement to beat arguably the greatest middleweight ever.
:wank: :wank:
One of the greatest of all time, not only did he have unbelievable speed, he fought and beat other all-time greats (Benetiz, Duran, Hearns, and Hagler).
To put it simply...Pretty damn good!He was nearly the complete package in his prime.His speed,power,chin,footwork,Etc were very impressive.But I think his two best qualities were his ring smarts and adaptablity.Both of which he showed in the first Hearns fight,and the second Duran fight.
Yeah, I was a Ray Leonard fan. He was a great boxer. The Hagler-Leonard fight was massive back then and I wanted Leonard to win it. Nowadays, I would appreciate Hagler more as a down to earth guy.
Aaron pryor
Marvin Hagler - But in 1982/83 In Hagler's prime
Donald Curry - Around 1984
Lloyd Honeyghan - Around 1985
Mike McCallum - At 154 pounds 1986
I think Hagler would be too strong for him in 1982. He was also much faster with amazing stamina compared to 1987.
Pryor v Leonard would be interesting, but i think Leonard could do everything Pryor could but better. Plus Leonard was naturally bigger, faster, probably more powerful.
He didnt last that long and aged fast (abilities wise but not face wise) i suppose and didnt have that many fights but he was a great boxer. Didnt look very hard his face and i would have kicked sand in it. But quite scary when he unloaded in the lower weights.
Better than PBF anyway who he is often compared with.
He was incredible considering his size and shape.
Manny Steward talked about how strong he was in "Legendary Nights."
He's associated with speed, and flash - but he could hit. :killyou:
Doesn't look like the kind of guy that could beat anybody's ass, but he could. :lol1:
I love that. :fing02: