Explain to me please just how Floyd Jr will beat Oscar ???
By Knockout ? I dont think so...Hoya's chin is one of the best
By outboxing him ? Hoya himself is a superior boxer who is probably the only one who can compete at the same level as Floyd.
I just dont see it...Hoya is bigger ,stronger and hits hard. If he connects on Floyds chin...Floyd is gonna feel it. It's a 12 round fight , Oscar will connect clean sooner or later. The only way Floyd can really win this fight is if he gets on his bike and runs. Really though...how can you disagree ?
Good Posts On Both Sides...
The more debates I read about DLH vs PBF, the more I'm becoming convinced that it aint gonna be a simple bout to score.
I think the outcome is a toss up if you think about it.
I'm hi-lighting a few of the attributes that stand out for me right now (please pardon any ommissions):
PBF: younger, in his prime, faster, undefeated, never been knocked out, intelligent, a virtually complete package (excluding one punch ko power), has a top 5 trainer in uncle Roger, never tires in a fight, championship fight experience.
DLH: heavier, good hand speed, good ring generalship, has ko power with either hand, adapts easily to any fighter, championship fight experience, coached in different styles via different trainers.
Oscar's advantage upon his request: higher weight class, smaller ring, glove brand and size.
Seems to be a virtual even playing field.
The x-factor, imo, will be who's jab is more effective, and who get's off first.
Oscar claimed he's going to bring everything he's got, Floyd stated he's going to bring something new and different.
Go figure.
:boxing: LET'S GET READY 2 RUMBLE! :boxing:
If Floyd wins he'll have a shout to being one of the greatest of all time. And he has a chance to be able to do it. BUt hey, don't get carried away. It's not going to be by knockout. Floyd had reasonable pop at the lighter weights but was never a very concussive puncher. Most of his stoppages have been through accumulation. If Floyd couldn't knock out Zab Judah how is he going to knock out Oscar?
How can Floyd beat Oscar? By sticking and moving, running and gunning. How can Oscar beat Floyd? Any way he chooses.
That's why Floyd taking this fight is a ballsy move. The way Mayweather fans act it's like noone has a chance of beating him. Which leads me to believe that the appeal of Mayweather is like the appeal of all other apparently "unbeatable" atheletes or teams: It's about gloating over victory, not about the thrill of competition.
Very Good Post. A lot of truth here.
floyd will simply outshine oscar.
it wil be a repeat of the first Mosley/oscar fight
Mosley Didn't out shine DLH, it was war and close fight both times. Mosley had the edge.
Man, this is a tough one. I am a huge Delahoya fan and hope he wins but PBF is at the top of his game right now. DeLahoya is 34 years old and not the fighter he once was. He is fighting a guy in his prime and that scares me. DeLahoys has had trouble with speedy fighters and you dont get much faster than PBF.
DeLahoya can win no doubt but he will have to get down and dirty in this fight and turn into a slug fest. All I know it will be a great fight and the atmosphere will be intense.
If Floyd wins he'll have a shout to being one of the greatest of all time. And he has a chance to be able to do it. BUt hey, don't get carried away. It's not going to be by knockout. Floyd had reasonable pop at the lighter weights but was never a very concussive puncher. Most of his stoppages have been through accumulation. If Floyd couldn't knock out Zab Judah how is he going to knock out Oscar?
How can Floyd beat Oscar? By sticking and moving, running and gunning. How can Oscar beat Floyd? Any way he chooses.That's why Floyd taking this fight is a ballsy move. The way Mayweather fans act it's like noone has a chance of beating him. Which leads me to believe that the appeal of Mayweather is like the appeal of all other apparently "unbeatable" atheletes or teams: It's about gloating over victory, not about the thrill of competition.
Anyway he chooses and you have the nerve to say something about Floyd fans. Oscar only chance to make it competitive is to use that jab of his, other than that there is nothing else he can do. He is not that much stronger people, he not quicker, and he ain't the better boxer. I'm not even going to mention his age, lack of stamina, lack of flexibility, and his intelligence in the ring compared to Floyd. When has Floyd ever said the fatigued caused him not to think right? Oscar just don't got it no more and has toomany lapses in his career to beat one of the best fighters I have ever seen.
That has nothing to do with Oscar and dont even try to compare any of those guys to Oscar because they aren't and were never close to the fighter Oscar is and was.
That wasn't his point he made...he said Floyd hasn't beaten anyone on top and he showed he was wrong just like you are wrong in thinking Oscar can actually win come May 5th. 8 rds to 4 Floyd, that is all i got to say. and another thing, quit criticizing people for being Floyd fans when you are an Oscar nuthugger, the kettle can't call the pot black!!!
i hav never said oscar doesnt hav a chance, he does hav a chance, but i dont think he has a chance to outbox floyd, he will hav to come to him and cut off the ring, he will need to do everything perfect or he will get outboxed
anyone who steps in the ring has a chance but depends on his chances some have higher and some are not.
before the Badlomir vs Zab Judah fight nearly all people thinking that Baldy does have a chance but proven them wrong
i hav never said oscar doesnt hav a chance, he does hav a chance, but i dont think he has a chance to outbox floyd, he will hav to come to him and cut off the ring, he will need to do everything perfect or he will get outboxed
Explain to me please just how Floyd Jr will beat Oscar ???
By Knockout ? I dont think so...Hoya's chin is one of the best
By outboxing him ? Hoya himself is a superior boxer who is probably the only one who can compete at the same level as Floyd.
I just dont see it...Hoya is bigger ,stronger and hits hard. If he connects on Floyds chin...Floyd is gonna feel it. It's a 12 round fight , Oscar will connect clean sooner or later. The only way Floyd can really win this fight is if he gets on his bike and runs. Really though...how can you disagree ?
both have chance to win it a 50/50 thing going on that is why it is exciting you cant really judge it that much some weeks it some thread isDHL is going to KO floyd and some weeks it Floyd going to win DHL.
but i going with Floyd Mayweather because he always get to top of his competition and has a good stamina to go for 12 round as well as clear thing and the later rounds too that is really rare in boxing or any sport to think clear when stunt or exhausted
do you always pick one part of a post and slag it off and then leave without making any real statements lol or do you just do it in floyd threads, and who exactly do you like as fighters, since we r "sucking floyd off" because he think he will beat oscar
I just get sick of you roaming form theread to thread about Floyd and saying the same shit over and over again. I am rooting for Oscar but at least I am able to be objective and realize that Floyd can win this fight and that Oscar does have flaws but I also know that if he comes with his A game and establishes his jab, works the body and, cuts off the ring effectively he can win this fight. What kills me are the Floyd fans that think he is invincible, has no flaws, and can't lose. I have news for you'll everyone can be beaten and everyone loses. There are a few Floyd fans that are able to be objective and I can respect that. I have no problem with you saying your man is gonna win or even expressing how you think he will win, but when you come on all these threads and say Oscar has no chance,it's gonna be an easy win for Floyd he is gonna embarass Oscar. It's shit like that I can't respect because Oscar is to good and has never been made look bad. Even against B-Hop he was in the entire fight until he got KO's but there is no shame in losing to one of the greatest middleweights of all time. Oscar didn't belong at middleweight anyway, it was to much weight for him yet he took the fight anyway because he wanted to foght the best. I am not sitting here tooting Oscar's horn saying he's the greatest but even at this stage in his career he is still very good yet I know he has flaws. All I ask is that you be objective and not come on these threads completely blind and anointing Floyd with this GOD complex that most of his fans seem to do. It should be a good fight where both men have a good chance of winning and this fight could go either way and anyway who thinks otherwise is just being ignorant.
how can you say a guy thats stopped all the guys lacks power? your a fuckin idoit, you say floyd fans are the worst, people who dont like floyd are out there head, because you say stupid shit like he has no power, he doesnt have one punch knock out power, but neither does oscar....
Your the fucking idiot he hasn't had knockout power since he left the lower weoght classes, and his nuts in front of your eyes blind you. You are unable to objective about anything when it comes to Floyd. You saying Oscar doesn't have knockout power proves how much of an idiot you are. Ask Vargas and Mayorga if he has knockout power just as of recently. Knock the both of them all you want and I hate Mayorga but dude is tough and hasd a good chin as well as Vargas. Floyd was small at 147 and his pop had already left him. Your telling me he would move to 154 and hurt legit jr middles your delusional. He may box and run but he sure isn't knocking anyone out. So you can cry and get upset all you want just because people don't suck Floyd off like the majority of the Flloyd fans. You'll think this guy is invincible and has no weknesses. I may be rooting for Oscar but I am able to objective and realize he has flaws. I am not stupid enough to think Floyd can't win but you Floyd fans that think Oscar has no chance and that Floyd is gonna walk right through him are ignorant.
If Floyd wins he'll have a shout to being one of the greatest of all time. And he has a chance to be able to do it. BUt hey, don't get carried away. It's not going to be by knockout. Floyd had reasonable pop at the lighter weights but was never a very concussive puncher. Most of his stoppages have been through accumulation. If Floyd couldn't knock out Zab Judah how is he going to knock out Oscar?
How can Floyd beat Oscar? By sticking and moving, running and gunning. How can Oscar beat Floyd? Any way he chooses.
That's why Floyd taking this fight is a ballsy move. The way Mayweather fans act it's like noone has a chance of beating him. Which leads me to believe that the appeal of Mayweather is like the appeal of all other apparently "unbeatable" atheletes or teams: It's about gloating over victory, not about the thrill of competition.
Really? What was Diego Corrales, Hernandez, manfredy, Castillo. they weren't at their best when they fought and got defeated by Floyd? Diego Corrales was undefeated, Hernandez hadn't lost at 130 lbs ever before Floyd and only lost to Oscar at 135 before Floyd, manfredy had like over 20 something consecutive wins before he lost to Floyd, Castillo had like 10 straight consecutive wins. I think they were all at the top of their game when they lost to Floyd!!
That has nothing to do with Oscar and dont even try to compare any of those guys to Oscar because they aren't and were never close to the fighter Oscar is and was.
do you always pick one part of a post and slag it off and then leave without making any real statements lol or do you just do it in floyd threads, and who exactly do you like as fighters, since we r "sucking floyd off" because he think he will beat oscar
simply put, floyd mayweather is a smarter fighter than oscar imo. his ring genraliship is better. size don't matter, speed don't matter, strength doesn't matter if you don't have the smarts to use them effectively, and oscar does have the smarts. the only difference is that floyd mayweather is smarter than oscar is, hands down. this will win mayweather the fight. oscar will lose.
Thats right because you are fully trained to administer an IQ test. Thats right!!!! That must be how you know Floyd is much smarter than Oscar. Nuthugger you go from thread to thread saying the same shit.
how can you say a guy thats stopped all the guys lacks power? your a fuckin idoit, you say floyd fans are the worst, people who dont like floyd are out there head, because you say stupid shit like he has no power, he doesnt have one punch knock out power, but neither does oscar....
you cant hurt what u cant hit, and a DLH shot that would normally be enough to hurt PBF, will be to slow for a quick guy like Mayweather.
Mayweather is much quicker, has a much better defense, and doesnt lack in power at all.
The one thing people completely overlook about mayweather is his ability to throw a good power shot.
Watch round 4 against baldy. That straight right hand would have done some serious damage to DLH.
PBF is gonna school DLH, and trust me when i say that Size will not be a factor in this fight.
But, i bet it'll be a good action fight while it lasts.
All I had to see is you say is that floyd doesn't lack power and I didn't even have to read anymore.
yeah and trinidad isnt a great boxer
he is a ok boxer with good punching
technique n power but his footwork
is horrible anyone who can move
with combinations and wasnt afriad to
get hti would give him fits. also if you stop his
hook he is shot. vargas was outboxing him for
most of the fight so was joppy until they got hit
all oscar was doing is moving left n right combination
left and right. nothing superior bout that.
oscar is a good boxer with good power good speed.
good chin but that dont mean he cant be kncoked out
that dont mean he cant be stoped or outboxed.
mosley outboxed oscar and shane is nowhere near the
boxer floyd is. shane is all pepper jab and and combination
floyd is a master of defense his footwork is great
his speed is great and he doesnt use it all the time
his boxing skills are great. floyd only weakness is his
hands getting hurt.
thats oscar only hope is floyd hand getting hurt during the
fight