Joe C's Comments On Kessler Fight

Seriously deluded.

Based on what? His former opponents? His defense? I want to see how Froch deals with another top ranked fighter, otherwise he would never be regarded as a legit opponent for any of the champs. (perhaps IBF.. :boxing: ) Froch will soon be WBC mandatory. He has real Power. You will see.

Froch demolished Henry Porras WBC No 11. Didnt Kessler fight Porras. Brian Magee got a shot at Calzaghe. Yes, at the time he was 26-1-0. Hard to compare.

Froch will kick Kesslers ass. Forget Calzaghe he is not even best in Britain. Based on what? His former opponents? His defense? I want to see how Froch deals with another top ranked fighter, otherwise he would never be regarded as a legit opponent for any of the champs. (perhaps IBF.. :boxing: )

Untill Froch actually does SOMETHING remotely noteworthy, it is very very easy to forget him - and rightfully so. Regardless of Calzaghe's poor choice of opposition you can't say the same about him. (though it does at times seem like he's working hard at ruining his own reputation) Untill Froch faces someone inside or arround top-10. It's completely meaningless trying to judge his abilities compared to the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. Looking ever so great against sub top-100 opposition just doesn't count for anything at all when judging his chances against the best. The fact that he hasn't made it to world level aged 30, suggests he'll never get there at all. Froch demolished Henry Porras WBC No 11. Didnt Kessler fight Porras. Brian Magee got a shot at Calzaghe.

Haha, Joe C hasnt beaten anyone... so why would any of the real big names wanna take him on? Atleast kessler disposed of beyer and has also beaten other top smw's like mundine. One win over an over rated lacy doesnt mean squat im afraid

Froch will kick Kesslers ass. Forget Calzaghe he is not even best in Britain. Untill Froch actually does SOMETHING remotely noteworthy, it is very very easy to forget him - and rightfully so. Regardless of Calzaghe's poor choice of opposition you can't say the same about him. (though it does at times seem like he's working hard at ruining his own reputation) Untill Froch faces someone inside or arround top-10. It's completely meaningless trying to judge his abilities compared to the likes of Calzaghe and Kessler. Looking ever so great against sub top-100 opposition just doesn't count for anything at all when judging his chances against the best. The fact that he hasn't made it to world level aged 30, suggests he'll never get there at all.

Say what? Easy now:boxing: Even though I am a Kessler fan, I know a WBO belt won from JC mean a bit more than a WBC win over Beyer.. Kessler wants a chance to unify all four belts, and Calzaghe finds himself running out of options to fight next. I think it might happen. But lets se how it goes.. Andrade is up first. Every respect to Andrade and the upcoming fight!!. But Calzaghes big $$$$-fight in US could very well be on a HBO demand to fight "the in US unknown Kessler". Froch will kick Kesslers ass. Forget Calzaghe he is not even best in Britain.

"if america wanted me to fight kessler, i'd do it." my ass. a british fighter who never fought in the US is now saying that he'll be influenced by the fans of a country he never fought in. yeah, sure. he wants andrade to win so he doesnt have to face kessler, its that simple.

Say what? Easy now:boxing: Even though I am a Kessler fan, I know a WBO belt won from JC mean a bit more than a WBC win over Beyer.. Kessler wants a chance to unify all four belts, and Calzaghe finds himself running out of options to fight next. I think it might happen. But lets se how it goes.. Andrade is up first. Just try to get the hang of it, so one more go for it: "Every respect to Andrade and the upcoming fight!!. But Calzaghes big $$$$-fight in US could very well be on a HBO demand to fight "the in US unknown Kessler".

And it's "shun", not "chun". It's German, see? Is that a word?

Say what? Easy now:boxing: Even though I am a Kessler fan, I know a WBO belt won from JC mean a bit more than a WBC win over Beyer.. Kessler wants a chance to unify all four belts, and Calzaghe finds himself running out of options to fight next. I think it might happen. But lets se how it goes.. Andrade is up first. Every respect to Andrade and the upcoming fight!!. But Calzaghes big $$$$-fight in US could very well be on a HBO demand to fight "the in US unknown Kessler".

Calzagheshun duckenshun! Schnell! And That's the most sense you've made for a looooong loooong time. (though the origin or actual meaning of the chun-chun thing still escapes me)

IBFs rules state: "The champions of WBA and WBC are ranked higher than champions of other organizations and are entitled to be first in line in event of unification". In other words - noone cares about Joe and his WBO belt Say what? Easy now:boxing: Even though I am a Kessler fan, I know a WBO belt won from JC mean a bit more than a WBC win over Beyer.. Kessler wants a chance to unify all four belts, and Calzaghe finds himself running out of options to fight next. I think it might happen. But lets se how it goes.. Andrade is up first.

For 10 year Calzaghes only plan was the "20. defense record". All this years he just talked and talked about who he would fight but not for real. Simply as that. That mend ducking a lot of fighters who could be a thread to the "fantastic undefeated record in the Warren Boxing Organization" Now he suddenly wants to fight the "best" and then calls out the older and the smaller US opponents. Still he don't take on the best in his own division. How in the hell can you go round proclaiming to be the best ever i SMW "with that legacy??" IBFs rules state: "The champions of WBA and WBC are ranked higher than champions of other organizations and are entitled to be first in line in event of unification". In other words - noone cares about Joe and his WBO belt

Calzaghe should fight the winner of Andrade/Kessler. If he gets past that, then have one final fight against the winner of Hopkins/Wright. These two wins would secure his legacy as the greatest 168 pound fighter.

For 10 year Calzaghes only plan was the "20. defense record". All this years he just talked and talked about who he would fight but not for real. Simply as that. That mend ducking a lot of fighters who could be a thread to the "fantastic undefeated record in the Warren Boxing Organization" Now he suddenly wants to fight the "best" and then calls out the older and the smaller US opponents. Still he don't take on the best in his own division. How in the hell can you go round proclaiming to be the best ever i SMW "with that legacy??"

"even though he didn't beat no. 2 to win it" True enough that. On all levels. The whole Calzaghe-US thing aint going to happen is it. The big names don't want a bar of him and Calzaghe doesn't want to travel for any old cannon fodder. My money's on a Kessler fight now - even given their amateurish posturings it's looking the easiest fight to make, and is pretty low risk really given that he's made a career of beating these robotic Euro fighters.

why doesn't joe just say that he'll fight all the top dogs, all the top names, and then do it. it seems like frank warren is just pussyfooting around and out waiting not only the competition but his fighter too. all this bullmess of " if the american people want it ", bullshit just lace them up and fight the top names. if they want to make it happen both sides can make it happen, plain and simple. i'm sure both sides are hiding behind the dollar, but warren's match making with joe has been nothing but dodgy and very favorable for joe. there is no gamble other than getting in the ring, but warren makes sure that his fighter is the favorite everytime, never putting him in against a guy that is truely in his prime. i've said it before and will say it again until it stops, frank warren matches calzaghe with guys who are iether past their prime or not ready to fight on joe's level, and thats a fact. i'm not saying joe has fought softies but he never fought any of the big names on his resume in their prime, and i'm not going by his opponents records either, i'm talking about guys that are at their peak, and the guys that were at their peak who fought joe were always a caliber below him. all i'm saying is quit pointing fingers and quit hiding behind the money issue or the fighting in the USA issue, just make the fights happen. like i said if both sides want to make it happen then they'll come to terms, if the fighters really really want to fight for pride and fighting sakes, then they'll make it happen, but it seems the majority of fighters especially ones that have made a fair bit of change don't want to fight to see who is better with the prize being the icing on the cake, they want to fight for cash only and if they win then they can brag and talk shit, i think that's the problem with boxing right now, boxers are concerned with who makes more than who is really the best! and that's is just another weight that is tied to boxing and is keeping it down. make the fights fucking happen for fuck sake! one other thing calzaghe needs to start fighting guys that are worhty of being in the ring with him, nothing against manfredo jr, but he is another example of a young fighter that isnt ready to step it up to joes level, manfredo needs more fights, about 3-4 more, and this whole manfredo is for publicity, bullshit, he's only mostly known up in providence rhode island where he's from. you ask even the casual boxing fan on who he is and about 85-90% don't have a clue, so that throws that crap excuse out the window. good action packed fights are what is going to get you noticed and get you known in the states. and joe has the style to make those kinds of fights anywhere in the world, i just think that is is wasting his potential of becoming a cross over super star. i don't think that joe can beat everyone but he can make some exciting fights if he actually signs to fight guys. Best thing to happen is if Calzaghe retired now, the SMW division wouldn't be held hostage by a man claiming to be the champ but refusing to prove it by fighting the best opponents. The worst thing that could ever happen to the division was when Calzaghe got the Ring belt by fighting no. 3, something that wouldn't have happened if no. 3 hadn't been an American. And now Calzaghe and his fanboys can use the ring belt to claim that he is the best, even though he didn't beat no. 2 to win it

why doesn't joe just say that he'll fight all the top dogs, all the top names, and then do it. it seems like frank warren is just pussyfooting around and out waiting not only the competition but his fighter too. all this bullmess of " if the american people want it ", bullshit just lace them up and fight the top names. if they want to make it happen both sides can make it happen, plain and simple. i'm sure both sides are hiding behind the dollar, but warren's match making with joe has been nothing but dodgy and very favorable for joe. there is no gamble other than getting in the ring, but warren makes sure that his fighter is the favorite everytime, never putting him in against a guy that is truely in his prime. i've said it before and will say it again until it stops, frank warren matches calzaghe with guys who are iether past their prime or not ready to fight on joe's level, and thats a fact. i'm not saying joe has fought softies but he never fought any of the big names on his resume in their prime, and i'm not going by his opponents records either, i'm talking about guys that are at their peak, and the guys that were at their peak who fought joe were always a caliber below him. all i'm saying is quit pointing fingers and quit hiding behind the money issue or the fighting in the USA issue, just make the fights happen. like i said if both sides want to make it happen then they'll come to terms, if the fighters really really want to fight for pride and fighting sakes, then they'll make it happen, but it seems the majority of fighters especially ones that have made a fair bit of change don't want to fight to see who is better with the prize being the icing on the cake, they want to fight for cash only and if they win then they can brag and talk shit, i think that's the problem with boxing right now, boxers are concerned with who makes more than who is really the best! and that's is just another weight that is tied to boxing and is keeping it down. make the fights fucking happen for fuck sake! one other thing calzaghe needs to start fighting guys that are worhty of being in the ring with him, nothing against manfredo jr, but he is another example of a young fighter that isnt ready to step it up to joes level, manfredo needs more fights, about 3-4 more, and this whole manfredo is for publicity, bullshit, he's only mostly known up in providence rhode island where he's from. you ask even the casual boxing fan on who he is and about 85-90% don't have a clue, so that throws that crap excuse out the window. good action packed fights are what is going to get you noticed and get you known in the states. and joe has the style to make those kinds of fights anywhere in the world, i just think that is is wasting his potential of becoming a cross over super star. i don't think that joe can beat everyone but he can make some exciting fights if he actually signs to fight guys.