Jermain Taylor vs. Edison Miranda?

Hey kid what the fuck r you talking about? Compare JT's opponent against Miranda's? JT fought Bhops twice. Do you know who Bhops is? Then he fought Winky. Do you know who winky is? Then a tune up fight with Ouma. Any fighter who takes Ouma as a tune up surely deserves credit. And who has Miranda fought? Green, Abraham and who else? That's a bullshit arguement boi, it's not hard to realize that Bhops and Winky is way above the class of Abraham and Green. Miranda would be very lucky if Bhops and Winky wouldn't knock his sorry ass out. :D Miranda is a major threat to any of the top guys out there. No one has the power to knock him out so if they even had a chance it would be a decision, but his right hand is way to powerfull for any one of them and he will land it too!!!!!!!!! By the way, i bet on Hopkin's to knock out Oscar before the tenth and I'm mexican american from East L.A................

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Ouma = Blown up super welterweight Miranda = True Light Heavyweight, punches like a crusierweight.

I think we can all agree that it would be a good fight, one of the best that can be made in boxing right now. I'd be more excited about Miranda-Taylor than I am about Mayweather-ODH.

Well if that's your call . . . so be it.:) I've got it the otherway around. Taylor by K.O within 8. If it took Miranda 10 full rounds to figure out the "Lazy Green" who did really nothing to pressure him I don't see how Miranda could K.O. Taylor who never stop throwing jabs and straight combinations. Basically this goes down to Taylor's straights against Miranda's looping punches. when taylor clinches in the later rounds, to avoid getting nailed by miranda, pantera will club him behind the head with a few of those looping shots. on the inside, taylor is very open to looping shots, ouma hit him with enough looping right hooks to swell taylor's eye up bad. miranda is much bigger, stronger, and more determined than ouma

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I'm not saying that Bhops and Winky are power punchers, what I'm saying is that these two are crafty, shifty and tricky fighters and since Taylor measured up to what these two have brought inside the ring, it's not imposible for Taylor to solve and measure up to Miranda's fighting style. Taylor will adjust his game plan? We'll no arguement on that because all fighters adjust gameplans. Those are the smart fighters buddy, but it's not because of being intimidated on the other guy's power, it's because the ultimate goal is to win the fight not just to show who has power. I don't think you can say fighter's don't adjust their strategy based on how hard the other guy hits. I mean, being a smart fighter, if you realize the man across from you hits much harder than you imagined, you are going to modify what you do to stop from being hit. The goal is to win the fight- the goal is also not to get laid out. If you realize you have to play more defense to that, you will. Boxers end up changing their game plan all the time based on how hard a boxer hits. My point is that Jermain is not prepared to get hit by Miranda, in my eyes, and that's the factor that will help Edison win a fight with Taylor. I see it like this. Taylor starts slow, gives the first three rounds to Miranda. Realizing he needs to step it up Taylor comes out, after urging from his corner, and uses his skill to out box and move from Miranda for the next 3 or 4 rounds. Now, lulled into a sense of security by his ability to box and move Jermain has a lapse- allows Miranda to catch him in the 8th or a bit after and goes down for the night. It's one possible prediction- which is all this thread is. Miranda by late KO.

Pavlik's toooooo sloooooooooooooooooow for JT, JT would stop him mid rounds... Miranda has a shot but he would probably get out boxed, i think Taylor can take some shots, hes been in there with Hop who may not be a ko puncher, but is very big and has good power in both hands pavlik is slow, but he's technically solid. i don't think JT is that much faster either. pavlik can time taylor, if he fights a smart fight he'll beat taylor. pavlik has all the tools. miranda has the power and determination, he has more than a puncher's chance. his strengths take advantage of taylor's weaknesess

miranda and pavlik both could beat jermain taylor. here's why: taylor can't fight on the inside, and has good punching power but not devastating - junior middleweights grady brewer and kassim ouma went the distance with taylor. both miranda and pavlik ( green also ) are harder punchers than taylor, and all three of them can fight very well on the inside. miranda is stronger than ANYONE taylor's ever fought. if miranda, hurts JT at any point in the fight, and if they were to meet, he will hurt taylor, the whole momentum of the fight will slide over to miranda - because taylor will know he can't trade with miranda. taylor will need a another hometown decision to beat miranda, miranda needs to knock him the fuck out, and he can. pavlik would be a worse fight for taylor's rep, because pavlik would school and humilate taylor before knocking him out. miranda will just beat him up Pavlik's toooooo sloooooooooooooooooow for JT, JT would stop him mid rounds... Miranda has a shot but he would probably get out boxed, i think Taylor can take some shots, hes been in there with Hop who may not be a ko puncher, but is very big and has good power in both hands

I agree that Jermain Taylor has fought good opposition as of late- but let's not paint them out to be something they aren't. None of his opponents in the last few years hit like Miranda did. An aging Hopkins? Crafty, yes. Skilled, yes. Intelligent, yes. A power puncher? No. How about Winky Wright? Not known for his punch. Kassim Ouma? You'd have to be kidding me. Miranda is flawed. Looping punches, slow- but he's got a fighter's spirit. Jermain has some technical holes and his recent opponents have not prepared him for a puncher like Miranda. A guy who, in his last three fights, Shattered a man's jaw, knocked a guy senseless in the first round, and for all intensive purposes KOed a big mouthed fighter who most saw as too skilled to lose to him. I stand by my point that once Taylor feels Miranda's power he'll adjust him game plan and Miranda will be able to steal rounds by being aggressive. miranda and pavlik both could beat jermain taylor. here's why: taylor can't fight on the inside, and has good punching power but not devastating - junior middleweights grady brewer and kassim ouma went the distance with taylor. both miranda and pavlik ( green also ) are harder punchers than taylor, and all three of them can fight very well on the inside. miranda is stronger than ANYONE taylor's ever fought. if miranda, hurts JT at any point in the fight, and if they were to meet, he will hurt taylor, the whole momentum of the fight will slide over to miranda - because taylor will know he can't trade with miranda. taylor will need a another hometown decision to beat miranda, miranda needs to knock him the fuck out, and he can. pavlik would be a worse fight for taylor's rep, because pavlik would school and humilate taylor before knocking him out. miranda will just beat him up

Nah Bro Taylor will not be afraid to get hit. His fights with Bhops and Winky gave him the confidence that Miranda's power won't affect. Not yet. Taylor won't be intimidated by a fighter who failed to finish off an opponent with a craked jaw. Got the point? I'm not saying that Taylor won't be hit. Everybody who gets into the ring gets hit. My point is Taylor won't be intimidated and rattled by Miranda's fighting style. Damn Bro Miranda failed to solve Green until the later rounds and that is when Green stopped using his jabs. I agree that Jermain Taylor has fought good opposition as of late- but let's not paint them out to be something they aren't. None of his opponents in the last few years hit like Miranda did. An aging Hopkins? Crafty, yes. Skilled, yes. Intelligent, yes. A power puncher? No. How about Winky Wright? Not known for his punch. Kassim Ouma? You'd have to be kidding me. Miranda is flawed. Looping punches, slow- but he's got a fighter's spirit. Jermain has some technical holes and his recent opponents have not prepared him for a puncher like Miranda. A guy who, in his last three fights, Shattered a man's jaw, knocked a guy senseless in the first round, and for all intensive purposes KOed a big mouthed fighter who most saw as too skilled to lose to him. I stand by my point that once Taylor feels Miranda's power he'll adjust him game plan and Miranda will be able to steal rounds by being aggressive.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say Miranda by mid-late KO. Why? Because when a fighter has a nasty punch it comes into play every fight. If he doesn't win by KO, he usually stuns his opponent or effects their game plan by virtue of his power and their need to avoid being clocked. Taylor nailed Ouma to kingdom come and didn't seem to hurt him too badly. I just don't buy that he's a big puncher. He hasn't shown it for quite some time. I think Miranda would be the one throwing Taylor off his gameplan with his power and Taylor already often starts slow. A slow start from Taylor and we see Miranda steal early rounds with his aggression. Then a good hit makes Jermain realize he's in with someone with heavy hands. He can't quite get into the game because he's too worried about getting hit...so Miranda steals more rounds until Jermain's corner prompts him to open up- he does- gets nailed. KO Miranda.

Miranda has already fought real challenges and Taylor's real test was Hopkins. Miranda's loss wasn't really a loss, it was a robbery. Miranda WILL(i say WILL) land his right hand and make Taylor fall. Put Green up against Taylor's best opponents and he'll probably KO them all!!!! Watch some more of Miranda's fights and compare them to Taylor's weak ass decsisions.... Not to mention Taylors first fight with Hopkins and fight with Winky could have gone either way.......and he did only draw Winky not beat him by any means.

Blown Super welterweights? Compare Taylors opponents and Compare Mirandas, Miranda LOST to a paperchamp, imagine what would taylor Do to him. He is way hyped than anyone right now and he gets far more credit than he is worth, his best opponents are Allan Green, Eastman and Willie Gibbs (LOL), and Taylor's were William Joppy,Raul Marquez, Daniel Edouard, Bernard Hopkins twice, Winky Wright, Kassim Ouma. and Miranda lost to Abraham and would lose again if they met...Taylor would kick his ass man, Pantera will do the chicken dance. Taylor has never been hurt/knocked down, Miranda has been HURT and KNOCKED DOWN...so I dont know why people assume Miranda will KO Taylor. Miranda has already fought real challenges and Taylor's real test was Hopkins. Miranda's loss wasn't really a loss, it was a robbery. Miranda WILL(i say WILL) land his right hand and make Taylor fall. Put Green up against Taylor's best opponents and he'll probably KO them all!!!! Watch some more of Miranda's fights and compare them to Taylor's weak ass decisions....

Lol, since win Taylor ran? That's your boy Hopkins who was running away from Taylor! :owned: lol Hopkins battered him and nearly stopped him the last 4 rounds of the first fight.......other than that you have a point.:D

When was the last time Taylor was knocked out, OR knocked down? fucking hell...Taylor will expose Miranda for the hype job he is. and if taylor wins people will say Miranda was waitin to be exposed he was'nt all that anyway just to discredit JT, Miranda is tailormade for Jermain. if anyone is a hype job its Taylor. The olympics don't make the fighter neither does all that hype from beating blown up super welter weights. Miranda has hype from great convincing power rights hand he shoots from his cannon and hurts the bigger man. I'm not saying it would be a blowout but Miranda WILL hurt Taylor badly win or lose.

JT will probably just try to box, I can see JT getting tagged with a shot by Miranda or trying to trade with Miranda then getting knocked down. All Jermaine would have to do is jab and keep his left hand up, do what Green wanted to do and it's a pretty easy UD. Miranda's boxing skills haven't developed all the way. But if JT gets wobbled, it's an easy Miranda KO, Pantera would jump all over Bad Intentions

Taylor 118-110 But I think Pavlik-Miranda could be the fight we wish Miranda-Green would have been. May be Kelly getting the JT shot...

Lol, no split decision in the poll.

I can see Miranda taking him out so clearly in my head. Do you think he will beat pavlik? I honestly think kelly is more impressive. IMO, its kelly vs jermain in the fall.