According to Segio Mora's official forum(http://sergiomora.net/php-nuke/index.php), the 26 year old californian has agreed to fight with middleweight champion Jermaine Taylor, expect the official announcement soon...
And I think it's funny how you can't see that Taylor really doesn't have world class abilities....and someone will expose that yet again much like in his last fight. He was caught backing up and was getting plastered by Wright...lucky for him the hometown judges gave him the nod.
Mora is a better fighter than Edouard, Joppy who was thinking about who's house he was going to rob after the fight, Old ass could be in the retirement home Raul Marquez, Lol Alex "WHO" Bunema.
The only real fighters Taylor has fought....he lost to and he's going to fight a real fighter in Mora sometime soon.. .....
bernard hopkins lost the rematch, i dont know what fight u were watching. Maybe when u saw the fight, u tried ur best to give as many rounds to b-hop as you can. Who has miranda beat? Yeah, no one. He is padding his ko record on nobodies.
You know, I agree that Taylor is still far more flawed and green than he should be as champion. I also feel, though, that he is a very large man and can use his athleticism to win fights even where his skills fail him. I agree with you, he can't be champion forever. He doesn't strike me as someone with longevity. I'll be very, very surprised if Mora is the one to take that championship, though. Hopkins would have killed Mora, Wright would have made him look silly...and yet Taylor, while doing nothing stellar, used his natural strength to carry him against these men where his flaws made him vulnerable. I don't think Mora could have gotten past those two.
Oh god damn. :banana: LMAO.
Nice touch with the banana.
Taylor won't be Champ forever and that icon will be obsolete.
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Fair enough. I guess it is also fair to say that Hopkins is a natural light heavyweight. 6'1'' I believe he is, starved down to Middleweight. Sounds a lot like Taylor huh?
I still dont buy your reasoning. Ouma could throw punches and he didn't put a dent in Taylor's defense. Mora is the same....he has more of a skillset but he is less active, punches like a girl, and is much less experienced then Ouma. All these facts point to a Taylor beat down. You better eat some humble pie when this fight comes off, just as I will if Taylor loses.
Yeah Yeah.
You can say he punches like a girl all you want...but he doesn't. He's just not a knockout puncher and he has enough pop to keep people off him and win the fight. He reminds me of a slightly more mobile modern day Mexican Jake Lamotta and I'm not going to make laughable comparisons but Mora could do what Lamotta did to Robinson.
Oh and no, Mora's fucking chin is nowhere near Lamotta's quality.
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What I meant by "bull" was that Taylor is big, strong and athletic. Hard to hurt (although the funny thing is he did get stunned by the Winkster a few times) and he is crafty enough to get by with below average skills.
I agree with you about Marquez. Marquez shouldn't of been in there.
But you calling Mora a natural 168 lber. That is complete garbage. Mora has been weighing in for fights at 160 at weights like 158 and just under the MW limit. He fought the Turk at 158....He would probably do alot better at Jr middleweight. He would still get outclassed by the top dogs there, however. Anyway, Mora's size and reach is not an issue. He is going to have to get inside Taylor and use angles and work alot to the body and head. He likes to stay outside and he sure as hell aint going to outbox Taylor.
I look forward to this fight simply because Taylor will silence all of the haters. I predict a knockout...this is a complete mismatch brought to you in part by Dibella Promotions.
Mora is skinny as hell.
I'm more than sure his BMI is way under what it's supposed to be and if he ate a cheeseburger he would blow up to his real weight which should be around 175. If you look at him from the side......he looks like a Cardboard Silhouette. I suppose it's an error to say he's a "natural 168 lber" on my behalf but I moreso meant frame wise. Hopkins you and I both know is not a natural middleweight. There's no way in hell, he openly stated that he starved himself and kept his weight down...and that he was never a big eater to begin with. I think that's just on his part because you can see his skull...that's how skinny he is, much like Mora.
I don't think it's a damn mismatch and you can't convince me otherwise. I'll state it again......ANYONE who throws punches is not an immediate underdog against Taylor in my book and especially not a fresh guy who has aspirations of one day becoming a full fledged star.
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I have a hard time seeing Turkmenistan (or whatever his name is - I'll call him Turk) as a puncher. Wasn't he moving up from 154? And he had fought extremely limited opposition...extremely limited even to Mora's resume. He starched Mora a couple times but he was complete garbage. The knockout was good on Mora's part...but this was a guy who was just totally out of his element in there with a decent fighter...I call Mora decent because that is exactly what he is.
You say "All the guys he creamed or "outclassed" THREW ZERO FUCKING PUNCHES. Almost like they were frozen in fear or something" - Maybe because the guy throwing back is a bull. Taylor is real strong...he should be fighting at 168 he is HUGE for his weightclass. Ouma threw plenty of punches and didnt even make a dent in Taylor. Taylor won about 9 rounds on my card. Mora doesn't have the skillset of Wright to make it past 10 rounds...I guarantee that.
I refuse to believe that Joppy stalked Taylor with his hands down because Taylor was such a bull. All Taylor did was patter him with combinations while Joppy was trying to prove some stupid point or something by clowning. That was also a case where one guy just fucking folded.
I'll give Taylor credit in that he did "bull" Marquez....but Marquez was fighting when Taylor was playing tether ball in his recess. That's more of a case where a guy working at the morgue felt like working one of the stiffs.
Sure......Ouma. Dude Ouma is 5'8 and belongs nowhere near middleweight. He was blown up and sure he has the style to give Taylor problems but you're forgetting that he's not 6'0 and a natural 168 lber like Sergio Mora is.
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The point is Mora is weak and slow and not the fighter that can beat Taylor. Yeah, sure Hopkins beat him once (You and I both know Taylor won the second bout), Winky pummelled him pretty good and probably deserved a decision (7 rounds to 5) but he beat down Ouma pretty good. He will do the same to Mora.
Mora would get a beatdown by Ouma all the same. Mora is not a world class fighter. You can point all you want to Taylor's resume but the fact is Taylor has fought the best at his time on top. Mora has fought nothing but mugs.
I'm not going to turn around and try and defend Mora's resume because yes....it's not that impressive and Taylor's is much more decorated..... But I maintain you can point to the Shark Attack fight and see him overcome adversity after getting hit by a huge puncher....but I disagree in that I think he has the kind of style that gives people problems with his old school boxing style and it's because he doesn't retreat and will throw punches.
I can't emphasize how much I think anyone who throws fucking punches will give Taylor problems. All the guys he creamed or "outclassed" THREW ZERO FUCKING PUNCHES. Almost like they were frozen in fear or something.
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What is the difference? Mora is an intelligent fighter but his punches are the power of Malignaggi's. He is going to hit Taylor and Taylor will come back like a truck and hit him twice in return. It's that simple and easy. Taylor will beat him like a drum. I laugh at all the Taylor haters who are justifying this fraud Sergio Mora.
And I think it's funny how you can't see that Taylor really doesn't have world class abilities....and someone will expose that yet again much like in his last fight. He was caught backing up and was getting plastered by Wright...lucky for him the hometown judges gave him the nod.
Mora is a better fighter than Edouard, Joppy who was thinking about who's house he was going to rob after the fight, Old ass could be in the retirement home Raul Marquez, Lol Alex "WHO" Bunema.
The only real fighters Taylor has fought....he lost to and he's going to fight a real fighter in Mora sometime soon.. .....
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What is the difference? Mora is an intelligent fighter but his punches are the power of Malignaggi's. He is going to hit Taylor and Taylor will come back like a truck and hit him twice in return. It's that simple and easy. Taylor will beat him like a drum. I laugh at all the Taylor haters who are justifying this fraud Sergio Mora.
they are both frauds. you would have to pay me to watch this garbage
Mora is going to get a beatdown. He doesn't have the skill (and it appears the chin) to go shot for shot with Taylor like Ouma tried. He has good speed but he has nothing in his arsenal that will fool Taylor. Taylor is going to beat him like a drum.
I'm not going to delve into the "chin" aspect....but just to remind you.
Ouma was floored 4 times by Silva, 3 by Karmazin, and was knocked down in the first twenty seconds against Rubio with a right hand. Everyone thinks his chin is granite simply because he took some shots from Jantuah, Phillips, and Candelo....but I think it still remains an enigma.
Also, Mora is the much fresher fighter of the two between he and Ouma.....and he doesn't just plod forward throwing punches.
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How is Mora going to win with his paper fists.Archak TerMeliksetian knocked him down, if Taylor hits him he will be going to sleep.Mora has not fought anyone of the caliber Taylor has fought.
see mora will lose but he wont get hit because taylor couldnt hit a moose that was standing still.
How is Mora going to win with his paper fists.Archak TerMeliksetian knocked him down, if Taylor hits him he will be going to sleep.Mora has not fought anyone of the caliber Taylor has fought.
Mora is going to get a beatdown. He doesn't have the skill (and it appears the chin) to go shot for shot with Taylor like Ouma tried. He has good speed but he has nothing in his arsenal that will fool Taylor. Taylor is going to beat him like a drum.
taylor cant hit anything. there is no way this fight will be one sided. mora sucks but taylor is worse. taylor will win another gift decision after not hitting his opponent all night. in two fights taylor didnt hit hopkins once and he won. taylor is the biggest joke in the sport.
When this fight rolls around I'll have a fistful of points to wager on Taylor if you have so much confidence in Mora. I'm not a fan of Jermain, he just never drew me in, but I think his athleticism will help him carry this fight. I see Mora getting hurt.
I'll throw up points on this fight if made but,
It depends on which Mora shows up. I'd bet anyways but I wouldn't do so because I'd think Mora was a lock to win the fight in my mind...which would be ridiculous. If the Mora that stopped Termeliksatian was present throwing the types of punches at angles keeping his man off balance......it could look like a poor man's version of what Wright did to Taylor.
Which was simply hit his ass and keep hitting him. Mora throws punches unlike many of the people Taylor disposed of and won two suspect decisions over.
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I hope Mora wins.
He's much more exciting than Taylor is, and I think he has far more boxing skill. Taylor merely relies on his size, strength, and athleticism to win fights. His defense is awful, he doesn't know how to fight on the inside, and looks downright amateurish in being 0-2-1 in his last 3 fights.
Mora looks more professional in the ring by far. And I don't care about "who he's fighting" because all I have to point to is Taylor drawing with a blown up Jr. Middle and him should have losing to a 41 year old man.
I agree. I find Jermain Taylor to be so sloppy he's hard to watch sometimes. I have all the respect in the world for him. I just can't see why Taylor's fans always talk shit about Hopkins, saying he was sloppy, boring, etc... when it's Taylor who is truly sloppy and boring. I've never been bored watching Bernard Hopkins fight, I can't count the times I have been watching Jermain fight.
Taylor will win by UD, Mora will try to put on his usual showmanship trying to rally the fans, but it'll be a shutout for Taylor. More of a money fight for both guys, but Mora doesn't deserve this title shot.
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