If you've never fought pro, your opinion means nothing.

I must admit I missed the sarcasm. I had an inkling but it's hard to pick up on the internets sometimes.

fucking 5 - star thread!!!! many we're fucking exposed... L M A O.... but seriously.... nice thread KA....

not every pro is a boxing historian, in fact, very few are. Tyson was, he watched loads of boxing matches and had a great knowledge

I cant believe this thread has so many posts. I can't believe you can't believe...

I cant believe this thread has so many posts.

LOL - these posters don't understand that the thread is a sarcastic jab at those who say "what does he know, he never laced 'em up..."Why is it that only brilliant peeps like you can undertand sarcasm neils? :puppy_dog

If you haven't had at least one pro fight, your opinion means nothing to me. I don't care if you'd studied boxing history, you've been around the sport all your life, and know all the fighters personally and have access to inside information; your opinion means less than a pro with a 0-1 record if you've never laced 'em up. I can't wait for HBO to fire Lampley and Merchant and add Bert Cooper and Leon Spinks to the payroll so we can finally get some insightul commentating for once. Oh, and amateur doesn't count. A 300-0 record with 300 knockouts and an olympic gold medal in the amateurs is less impressive than 0-1 in the pros. So please don't start with the "oh I won the golden gloves, look at the vids of my fights, I know what I'm talking about". Nope sorry, not interested, unless we're talking PRO here. Hey BPP can we ban everyone who hasn't fought pro? I believe you should have to fax in a copy of your pro license to make an account on this forum, or any forum on the internet for that matter. I'm getting sick of all these civilians trying to make their points here while lacking the proper credentials. I mean, okay, you might have what you consider an "opinion" to make but without a pro license that's exactly like a schizophrenic vagrant on the street trying to operate on my brain. Answer me, would you want a dirty, boozed up, mentally ill homeless man performing brain surgery on you, even if he's wearing scrubs? No, that's why we require medical licenses. Now, keeping that in mind, do you want some Joe "Unlicensed, Never Fought Pro" Nobody talking to be you boxing? No, of course not, that's just as bad, and that's why we should require pro boxing licenses to participate in the forum. I'm a pro with a 0-10 record so ride on to my wisdom... :lol1:

not every pro is a boxing historian, in fact, very few are. You're right, most of them are busy being about it, instead of talking about it. The posters on this board are all boxing historians? I don't think so. Again, if I'm going into a fight, I'll take Scully's or Rockin's or any other guy with real experience's advice over anybody else in here. I guess it depends on what you mean by "boxing knowledge." There are those who memorize Rocky Marciano's record, complete with dates etc., or knows what color and brand of gloves PBF used for which fight. Great. Whoopee. What value does that "knowledge" have? What can it be applied to? And then there are those who have what I call boxing knowledge, who can take that knowledge and win a fight, either for themselves or for a fighter they're training. That's real knowledge to me.

not every pro is a boxing historian, in fact, very few are.

If you don't like others opinions than get out of the boards. This is for boxing fans and people who enjoy the sport. You are too sensitive to criticism so you don't belong here. LOL - these posters don't understand that the thread is a sarcastic jab at those who say "what does he know, he never laced 'em up..."

Ill say it again, brilliant thread.

If you haven't had at least one pro fight, your opinion means nothing to me. I don't care if you'd studied boxing history, you've been around the sport all your life, and know all the fighters personally and have access to inside information; your opinion means less than a pro with a 0-1 record if you've never laced 'em up. I can't wait for HBO to fire Lampley and Merchant and add Bert Cooper and Leon Spinks to the payroll so we can finally get some insightul commentating for once. Oh, and amateur doesn't count. A 300-0 record with 300 knockouts and an olympic gold medal in the amateurs is less impressive than 0-1 in the pros. So please don't start with the "oh I won the golden gloves, look at the vids of my fights, I know what I'm talking about". Nope sorry, not interested, unless we're talking PRO here. Hey BPP can we ban everyone who hasn't fought pro? I believe you should have to fax in a copy of your pro license to make an account on this forum, or any forum on the internet for that matter. I'm getting sick of all these civilians trying to make their points here while lacking the proper credentials. I mean, okay, you might have what you consider an "opinion" to make but without a pro license that's exactly like a schizophrenic vagrant on the street trying to operate on my brain. Answer me, would you want a dirty, boozed up, mentally ill homeless man performing brain surgery on you, even if he's wearing scrubs? No, that's why we require medical licenses. Now, keeping that in mind, do you want some Joe "Unlicensed, Never Fought Pro" Nobody talking to be you boxing? No, of course not, that's just as bad, and that's why we should require pro boxing licenses to participate in the forum. ....Alright, I have major issues with this post. They all revolve around your choice of expert commentators. I would much rather listen to Camacho, Michael Spinks, the ever articulate Larry Holmes, or even James Toney give their insight than to listen to Leon and Bert. :banana:

Kid achelies used to be one of the best posterson the site. Either he has seriously changeed or he was on drugs when he wrote this

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it depends on what type of opionon you want i guess do i even make sense?

Why do you not agree? Also, where is your pro license, which is a prerequisite for differing from the opinion of a thread starter. I dont need a license to Knock your dog kissin punk ass out. Look I've watched boxing since I was a kid and boxed with a lot of guys, backyard sessions mainly but that don't make me more or less capable of intelligent commentary on boxing. Look at everyone's post'sand figure out who you think is knowledgable and objective and who is a fan boy who don't know shit. Granted being a pro boxer gives you an intimate perspective but that don't always translate to boxing insight and intelligent observations. Plus I think you're full of shit in a big way. Either way stupid post!

Wow...Kid Achilles has really struck a cord here with this thread! This thread started this morning and is already 15 pages long!:hail: Why can't I get this reception with some of my threads!:pat:

it depends on what type of opionon you want i guess

Originally Posted by Kball15 Of coarse it helps. But im sure there are people who have NEVER stepped into the ring that know more then people who have actually been contenders in the sport. Here it is a nutshell....there are people that never boxed before who know MUCH MORE about boxing than some fighters do...definitely.....BUT some guy that never even stepped in a ring before (and that means greats like Dundee, Futch, etc) iis NOT going to be ale to tell a guy that has real pro experience certain things...for example, it's like this....if Futch, Jim Gray, Merchant, Kellerman and Steve Forbes for example were all in a roOM and one of you came in and wanted to know what it was like to be in the 12th round of a fight....well, only Steve could stand up and TRULY tell u the things u really want to know. exactly, trainers know certian things a fighter doesnt and vice Versa, you Scully know both sides

Originally Posted by Kball15 Of coarse it helps. But im sure there are people who have NEVER stepped into the ring that know more then people who have actually been contenders in the sport. Here it is a nutshell....there are people that never boxed before who know MUCH MORE about boxing than some fighters do...definitely.....BUT some guy that never even stepped in a ring before (and that means greats like Dundee, Futch, etc) iis NOT going to be ale to tell a guy that has real pro experience certain things...for example, it's like this....if Futch, Jim Gray, Merchant, Kellerman and Steve Forbes for example were all in a roOM and one of you came in and wanted to know what it was like to be in the 12th round of a fight....well, only Steve could stand up and TRULY tell u the things u really want to know.