First, some all-time and almost greats:
Felix Savon (358-17)
Teofilo Stevenson (302-20)
Laszlo Papp (301-12-6)
Terry Norris (291-4)
Virgil Hill (250-11)
Mike McCallum (240-10)
Kennedy McKinney (214-13)
Pernell Whitaker (201-14)
John Mugabi (195-5)
Vitali Klitschko (195-15)
Leon Spinks (181-9)
Sugar Ray Leonard (165-5)
Danny Romero (127-5)
Wilfredo Benitez (123-6)
Harry Arroyo (120-15)
Nino Benvenuti (119-1)
Jose Napoles (113-1)
Mark Breland (110-1)
Kid Chocolate (100-0)
Muhammad Ali (100-5)
Vinny Pazienza (100-12)
Meldrick Taylor (99-4)
Michael Carbajal (94-9)
Michael Spinks (93-7)
Tony Zale (87-8)
Sugar Ray Robinson (85-0)
Carlos Monzon (79-7)
Hector Camacho (75-4)
Maurice Blocker (73-3)
Roger Mayweather (64-4)
Simon Brown (63-2)
Willie Pep (62-3)
Yoko Gushiken (62-3)
Naseem Hamed (62-5)
Ingemar Johansson (61-10)
Alexis Arguello (58-2)
Wilfredo Gomez (58-2-1)
Henry Armstrong (58-4)
Marvin Hagler (55-1)
Felix Trinidad (51-6)
Joe Louis (50-4)
Azumah Nelson (50-2)
Michael Moorer (48-16)
Ray Mancini (43-7)
Ezzard Charles (42-0)
Nigel Benn (41-1)
Floyd Patterson (40-4)
Ricardo Lopez (37-1)
Benny Lynch (35-2)
Carlos Zarate (33-0)
Iran Barkley (30-4)
Edwin Rosario (30-2)
Vito Antuofermo (29-1)
Bobby Czyz (24-2)
Chiquita Gonzalez (23-0)
Jesse James Leija (23-5)
Chris Eubank (19-7)
Rocky Marciano (9-4)
Some current champions and contenders:
Oscar De La Hoya (223-5)
Jeff Lacy (209-12)
Evander Holyfield (160-14)
Wladimir Klitschko (134-6)
Zab Judah (110-5)
Erik Morales (108-6)
Diego Corrales (105-12)
Acelino Freitas (74-2)
Rosendo Alavarez (66-12)
Kassim Ouma (60-3)
Marco Antonio Barrera (56-4)
Ike Quartey (50-4)
Vivian Harris (45-5)
Juan Manuel Marquez (44-2)
Manuel Medina (40-6)
Jorge Arce (37-3)
Montell Griffin (36-5)
Antonio Margarito (21-3)
James Toney (20-2)
Jean-Marc Mormeck (13-2)
Nikolai Valuev (12-3)
The reverse can also be true for relatively modest amateur boxers. Future greats Julio Cesar Chavez (14-1), Roberto Duran (13-3), Buddy McGirt (54-9), James Toney (20-2), and Larry Holmes (19-3) are examples of men who perfected their craft in the pro rings. Ironically, they did so on the undercards of Olympic medalists they would later eclipse. While Chris Eubank (19-7), being a later starter to boxing while living in the States, perfected his craft in the gym over here before going back to Europe and becoming one of the most successful European boxers of all-time.
Please be advised...AGAIN... I would say all or 99 pct. of these records are NOT ACCURATE.... I KNOW THIS FOR FACT.. number one, amateur boxing records are very rarely kept accurately and there is no ruling body that keeps stats... even with American amateurs... the records are not kept.. you can't go to the National office and get the records and there is no fightfax for them, either... the national office only keeps track of national tournaments, that's it..... and take Benitez for example... he turned pro at 14... he didn't have 130 or so amateur fights at that time, OK??....... Most of the amateur recoerds you see reported are LITERALLY some reporter asking a guy and the fighter making a guess..I know a kid who I know for a FACT had at least THIRTY losses in his amateur career over a ten year span... he was reported to the crowd (in the program), though, at a tournament as having a record of something like 145-4.....because they ASKED HIM and he just made a number up. That happens all the time, believe me.
I know this is from long ago. But this quote is true. Alot of bull crap in amateur boxing decisions I know there is alot in my local lbc There is no way in hell, starting boxing from a very young age that you would get away with just 7-8 loses with over 100 fights. Example is a kid I know with about 20 fights right now, 12yr old with 7 loses. Watched all his fights, actually really only lost 3 got 4 bogus decisions 2 really bad ones with knock downs etc... and as he gets more fights it will not be the end of it. Amateur boxing is a bunch of volunteers and many judges don't know squat. So when I look at these amateur records, man, how did they manage that? It's impossible unless every fight was a stoppage or the kid had a name from the start. In the US in southern California it's definitely not perfect. Bad decisions left and right, no way unless you got a name already because I know kids like cash flow or Lil showtime are hard to beat even if you beat them. Amateur boxing rcords starts when you get your book as young as 8. Dont tell me these fighters came blasting out the gate too. Those records were made up. Usa boxing needs to get better these kids work too hard.
dLH was america's lone gold medalists in barcelona, I think one of dela hoya's amateur losses came from the same guy he beat in the finals of 92' olympics, was his name randolph from germany??
That is correct he was undefeated for 5 years until losing to Randolph which he did avenge in the games.
dLH was america's lone gold medalists in barcelona, I think one of dela hoya's amateur losses came from the same guy he beat in the finals of 92' olympics, was his name randolph from germany??
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! knocked him out with his eyes closed
dLH was america's lone gold medalists in barcelona, I think one of dela hoya's amateur losses came from the same guy he beat in the finals of 92' olympics, was his name randolph from germany??
I was rated as high as #3 in the USA (I was # 4 at the time I turned pro) and I defeated the #1 and #2 in the world. I was NOT the world champion as an amateur, I beat the world champion (Darin Allen) but we didnt fight for his world title. It doesn't really work like that in the amateur ranks.
well thats stupid, you beat him you should have got the championship. amatuer boxing sucks
I fought three times in one night in a state tournament (1984)... twice in one day at the PAL Nationals (1986)...and twice I had five fights in one week at the National Golden Gloves tournament (1987 and 1988)
Hey John, question for ya. Fighters who have like say 1 pro fight and are fighting on ESPN, how much do you think they make, as opposed to non TV fights? 500$, 1000$?
I fought three times in one night in a state tournament (1984)... twice in one day at the PAL Nationals (1986)...and twice I had five fights in one week at the National Golden Gloves tournament (1987 and 1988)
Yea, I wanna' know who the uncle is, too :) As for me...I had FIVE fights in one week on two occassions (at the national Golden Gloves)...I also fought three times in one night one time and twice in a day another time.
Damn, So how did you do on those 5 in one week and 3 in one night?
Maybe I can find an old magazine of his where it shows the amateur ratings from back in the 70s. Right now I am at college though so it will be a while. Maybe yall can remind me to ask him for it.
I was rated as high as #3 in the USA (I was # 4 at the time I turned pro) and I defeated the #1 and #2 in the world. I was NOT the world champion as an amateur, I beat the world champion (Darin Allen) but we didnt fight for his world title. It doesn't really work like that in the amateur ranks.
Well you simply cannot have heard of everyone. He fought in the 70s and at very low weights...I believe he was at 92 lbs when he was 12 or so. Not sure where he was in his upper teens.
Maybe he had some tough man type fights in there. I believe you as far as him being a good boxer and all but like they said the numbers are just so high .
Well you simply cannot have heard of everyone. He fought in the 70s and at very low weights...I believe he was at 92 lbs when he was 12 or so. Not sure where he was in his upper teens.
You have no history of lying that I am aware of. I believe you.
Well you simply cannot have heard of everyone. He fought in the 70s and at very low weights...I believe he was at 92 lbs when he was 12 or so. Not sure where he was in his upper teens.