Castillo didn't win that shit. They robbed Hernan Ngoudjo, right?
:drillserg Right????
I have eyes. That was a ROBBERY!!
I was pawing on this bitch during that fight - but that's what I remember..
final answer....castillo won the fight in the books...but lost in the eyes of the true boxing fans!!!! you guys gotta remember, he was suppose to knock this guy out with ease, and as larry merchant said " he is tailor made for castillo "
Castillo landed the better punches throughout the course of the fight and for me won the first round and the last six. It wasn't an exciting fight but Ngoudjo went in there to not get killed and as a result was simply covering up and letting loose the odd flurry. Because his guard was so tight the only punches that Castillo could reasonably land were small tight uppercuts which don't looks as impressive as big flurries with no power but are certainly more effective.
It was a very close fight, Ngoujo started getting tired and less active as the fight went on, and that allowed Castillo to open up more and look like the aggressor. I wasn't suprised with the outcome, but I wish Ngoujo would have pressed more in the last few rounds so he could've gotten the win. It's almost like he let an opportunity go by, and he was just satisfied to be competitive with Castillo.
Don't get too much excited about Ngoudjo.
I've seen most of Ngoudjo since his professionnal debut. That guy was really bad before the Castillo fight. I don't know what happened that night, but don't get too much excited about his performance.
He fought against a journeyman once (Juan Carlos Rodriguez) and he clearly lost, but he got away with a local decision.
He fought Augustus, Augustus spent like 7 rounds in a row doing nothing but dancing. In the 12th round, he took it seriously and Ngoudjo was close to being knocked out, he went to the floor, stood up and was saved by the bell.
I'm just warning you in case you want to bid money on this guy in the future...
And to answer your question, 115-113 for Castillo was a good decision.
Oh yes definitely, this is a case of a fighter gaining fans and adoration after losing a fight. This is a career defining fight for the guy and since he made a good account of himself against a BIG NAMED opponent like Castillo, I'm sure HBO and the other promoters have their eyes on him now.
He'll get another chance to show off his wares in another big promotion.
I know you're right. I wonder what his overall prospects are?
I was contemplating if he could handle a fully rested, well adjusted, motivated Castillo..
Probably not; but he showed good hand speed, stamina, chinny, and guts.
At least not immediately. I'm sure with this awesome performance the guy is going get bigger breaks. And if he wins some big fights I'm sure their path is gonna cross again.
Could be. I'm sure he would appreciate the opportunity.
Castillo doesn't appear to have a many miles left.. I think his motivation and interest have affected his weight troubles and performance as of late.
I'm sure many of the fringe contenders are encouraged by the good fortune of Luis Collazo.
So there is always another fight for him, potentially.
Ngoudjo fought a good fight but was given too much credit.
He was given credit because he won 6 rounds in the fight.
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Castillo clearly won that fight and even Ngoudjo knew it. Remember Ngoudjo went and picked Castillo up before the decision was even announced.
Castillo landed more punches throughout the fight and landed the more effective quality punches. After almost every round HBO's ass kissing of Ngoudjo was negated once Lampley announced that Castillo out landed Ngoudjo according to compubox.
Ngoudjo fought a good fight but was given too much credit.
1,7,8,9,11, - Castillo
2,3,4,5,6,10,12 - Ngoudjo
Ngoudjo cleary won the fight in my eyes...castillo was landing one punch at a time, while Ngoudjo was landing serious combinations and hurt him a lil! in a rematch, Ngoudjo would blow castillo out the water and knock him out (iam sure that he was scared with it being his first big fight and all)
i completely agree, castillo is a brawler but you could tell in his face and body expression he knew he lost, but hey bigger fights and more $$$$$ by castillo winning.....
Bear in mind that when this fight was being broadcast it was 3am my time, so I was half pissed and half asleep and wasn't giving it 100% close attention. By that token I scored some even rounds because I couldn't be bothered to work out who'd won them properly. If I let those even rounds stand, I had it to Castillo by four points. If I gave them to whatsiface exclusively, it made it even.
you have serious issues with scoring. every fight you have even rounds. learn how to score please.
It failed to hold my interest.
Really? I thought it was a good fight and the thought of an upset was exciting for me, even though it probably would have messed up Castillo-Hatton. Ngoudjo fought good and had just 15 fights, I think everyone thought he would loose except him. But then again I like rooting for the underdog
close fight, what were the punch stats?
This is according to boxrec, so who knows if its accurate lol:
Punchstats
Total Punches Castillo Ngoudjo
Landed 245 208
Thrown 682 783
Pct. 36% 27%
Power Punches Castillo Ngoudjo
Landed 212 158
Thrown 529 474
Pct. 40% 33%
in a rematch, Ngoudjo would blow castillo out the water and knock him out (iam sure that he was scared with it being his first big fight and all)
Oh come on.
The only person that has ever knocked Castillo out with punches was Corrales. He's never been on the canvas one time as a pro.
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1,7,8,9,11, - Castillo
2,3,4,5,6,10,12 - Ngoudjo
Ngoudjo cleary won the fight in my eyes...castillo was landing one punch at a time, while Ngoudjo was landing serious combinations and hurt him a lil! in a rematch, Ngoudjo would blow castillo out the water and knock him out (iam sure that he was scared with it being his first big fight and all)
I disagree, I had a number of the early rounds for Castillo. Although it wasn't vintage Castillo, I favoured his precise and harder punching over Ngoudjo's sometimes ineffective swarming.
So that means you had Castillo winning the fight big time.
Because there's no way you could give the majority of the later rounds to Ngoudjo. That would be absurd.
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It was a relatively easy fight to score.
Outside of the first round....it was all Ngoudjo. Come 7th round, Castillo felt a sense of urgency and outworked Ngoudjo untill the 12th round. In the 12 Ngoudjo felt a sense of urgency and outfought Castillo.
If he didn't fight like he did in the 12th, I would have scored the fight in Favor of JLC by 1 point. If this fight is decided by 1 round.....I think people can just argue over the 1st round of the fight.
Outside of the 12th...the 1st is the only round that is debatable IMO.
The others were clear winners for either Ngoudjo or Castillo.
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Some rounds were very close IMO, so I had it anywhere from four points to Castillo to a draw. I thought it probably looked worse for Castillo to the crowd, who wouldn't have the up-close benefit we had of seeing the arm slap flurries that were ineffective and missing the target vs. the accurate powerful shots. A close fight but I can't understand the booing.
Addison, can you select the "public" option for your polls, at all? It'd be interesting to see who votes what.
I know you're right - I'm pissed at myself for that.. :nonono: