i think taylor deserves a spot. He beat bernard hokins 2 times and fought to a draw with wright who is number 2 p4p in the world,. He defanatly deserves a place
1. Wright
2. Mayweather
3. Pacquiao
4. Rafa Marquez
5. Marco Antonio Barrera
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My top ten,off the top of my head....
1.Floyd Mayweather
2.Manny Pacquiao
3.Winky Wright
4.Joe Calzaghe
5.Jermain Taylor
6.Ricky Hatton
7.Marco Antonio Barrera
8.Rafael Marquez
9.Jose Luis Castillo
10.Israel Vazquez
Jermaine Taylor and Ricky Hatton really have no business being on this list either. You could make the case for everyone else but them.
You're right... I shouldn't have put them on the list.
How could the win over Baldomir move Floyd ahead in your rankings when that was a month before Wink beat Quartey. I'd say the Quartey victory is much more impressive don't you think? or are you going to give me the linear champion argument?
Quartey > Baldomir easily.
No im not i was verry impressed with winkys win but i dunno. Mayweather answerd alot of questions i had about him in that fight.
No prob, bud.
...and an arguement can be made for Wright. In my opinion, Winky hasn't lost a fight since Vargas...and an arguement can be made that he didn't lose that one. He did nearly blow the second Mosley fight, though.
Anyway, I think it's safe to say the top three fightes in the world are Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Wright.....and in my opinion, Calzaghe and Hopkins round up the top 5.
well i think you're right, but i would say Winky has only lost to Vazquez(and though i confess myself a Winky nuthugger, i think he was giving Vazquez a clinic, but his inexperience got the better of him and a little of Vazquez's power too)
LOL, I got a little carried away....sorry...:439:
I was not rying to say that Manny didnt do good because as you said, not everyone couldve beaten Morales, but i do think an elite fighter(barrera or marquez) in the division couldve made him look nearly as bad...
And I agree with you in your views about Floyd, thats why my #1 p4p is WINKY
No prob, bud. :biggthump
...and an arguement can be made for Wright. In my opinion, Winky hasn't lost a fight since Vargas...and an arguement can be made that he didn't lose that one. He did nearly blow the second Mosley fight, though.
Anyway, I think it's safe to say the top three fightes in the world are Mayweather, Pacquiao, and Wright.....and in my opinion, Calzaghe and Hopkins round up the top 5.
1. No need to yell. :D
2. I agree with you in that Morales' desire is all but gone; but feel even the Morales that was blown out in 3 by Pacquiao could have beaten just about anyone else in the division. He is NOT completely shot.
3. To imply that he is shot and that anyone else in the division could have done to him what Manny did is a disservice to Pacquiao. What Manny did is noteworthy. No, he did not beat up a prime Morales and no one is saying he did, however, he did beat one of the best fighters in the world and did it as if it were nothing. THAT is noteworthy.
4. I'm not saying Manny is the best; but he's damn close. And if he keeps improving and keeps destroying top rated fighters the way he did Morales, he will surpass Floyd Mayweather Jr. if Pretty Boy doesn't keep up. If Floyd wants to hold on to his #1 slot, he can't go after any more Arturo Gattis or Shramba Mitchells.
LOL, I got a little carried away....sorry...:439:
I was not rying to say that Manny didnt do good because as you said, not everyone couldve beaten Morales, but i do think an elite fighter(barrera or marquez) in the division couldve made him look nearly as bad...
And I agree with you in your views about Floyd, thats why my #1 p4p is WINKY
WELL, THE BARRERA FIGHT, MORALES WASNT MOTIVATED AND FOR THE FIRST 6 ROUNDS OF THE FIGHT, WAS HEAD HUNTING AND GOING FOR THE KNOCK OUT, BUT HE FINISHED STRONG AND COULDVE BEEN A DRAW....
THE RAHEEM FIGHT HE UNDERESTIMATED HIS OPPONENT AND LOOKED SLOW AS HELL...
VS PAC II THE FIRST FIVE ROUNDS, HE WAS BEATING HIM 4 TO 1, AND THEN HE CMPLETELY RAN OUT OF GAS, BUT HIS HEART HOLD HIM UP..........AND YET, AT THE POST FIGHT INTERVIEW, HE SAID HE HAD BEEN TIRED OF BOXING FOR A WHILE...
THE THIRD FIGHT WITH PAC PROVED THAT HE DIDNT NEED BOXING ANYMORE, AND THAT HIS BODY WONT GIVE HIM MUCH MORE, AT LEAST AT 130 POUNDS, LOOK AT HIS LEGS, THEYRE FUCKING GONE, (AND MORALES HAD GOOD FEETWORK WHEN GOING ON THE OFFENSIVE BEFORE) HE DOESNT HAVE BALANCE, HE MOVES WITH DIFFICULTY, HE EVEN JUMPED!!!!! WHEN THROWING A JAB TRYING TO REACH!!!!! HE MOVED HIS RIGHT FOOT FORWARD WHEN DOING A CROSS!!!!!!(WELL, DOING A 1-2)INNUMERABLE TIMES!!!!!
THATS WHY I CANT SAY PAC IS THE BEST, MORALES WAS FUCKING SHOT!!!! AT LEAST FOR THOSE TWO FIGHTS!!!!
BARRERA PUNISHED HIM WORSE IN TH FIRST FIGHT AND STILL MORALES FOUGHT BACK, NEVER WENT DOWN, AND WORKED SO MUCH THAT I DO THINK THE DECISION WAS NOT THAT BAD
THE MORALES THAT FOUGHT BARRERA BACK THEN COULDVE WHOOPED PAC'S ASS!
1. No need to yell. :D
2. I agree with you in that Morales' desire is all but gone; but feel even the Morales that was blown out in 3 by Pacquiao could have beaten just about anyone else in the division. He is NOT completely shot.
3. To imply that he is shot and that anyone else in the division could have done to him what Manny did is a disservice to Pacquiao. What Manny did is noteworthy. No, he did not beat up a prime Morales and no one is saying he did, however, he did beat one of the best fighters in the world and did it as if it were nothing. THAT is noteworthy.
4. I'm not saying Manny is the best; but he's damn close. And if he keeps improving and keeps destroying top rated fighters the way he did Morales, he will surpass Floyd Mayweather Jr. if Pretty Boy doesn't keep up. If Floyd wants to hold on to his #1 slot, he can't go after any more Arturo Gattis or Shramba Mitchells.
I had winky number 1 before the baldameir win for mayweather but i thin that nudged him ahead by a slim margine but i see where ur coming from
How could the win over Baldomir move Floyd ahead in your rankings when that was a month before Wink beat Quartey. I'd say the Quartey victory is much more impressive don't you think? or are you going to give me the linear champion argument?
Quartey > Baldomir easily.
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...and with the exception Rakeem, those losses came to Barrera and Pacquiao. It's not like he was getting blown out by Joe Blow.
Yes, he's past his best and he's just this side of shot; but I wouldn't say he's shot yet...not Evander Holyfield shot.
Taylor just hasn't given the impression of a world beater. The #1 should be a guy that you could see beating anyone else in the world, all things being equal. He doesn't present that picture....not at all.
WELL, THE BARRERA FIGHT, MORALES WASNT MOTIVATED AND FOR THE FIRST 6 ROUNDS OF THE FIGHT, WAS HEAD HUNTING AND GOING FOR THE KNOCK OUT, BUT HE FINISHED STRONG AND COULDVE BEEN A DRAW....
THE RAHEEM FIGHT HE UNDERESTIMATED HIS OPPONENT AND LOOKED SLOW AS HELL...
VS PAC II THE FIRST FIVE ROUNDS, HE WAS BEATING HIM 4 TO 1, AND THEN HE CMPLETELY RAN OUT OF GAS, BUT HIS HEART HOLD HIM UP..........AND YET, AT THE POST FIGHT INTERVIEW, HE SAID HE HAD BEEN TIRED OF BOXING FOR A WHILE...
THE THIRD FIGHT WITH PAC PROVED THAT HE DIDNT NEED BOXING ANYMORE, AND THAT HIS BODY WONT GIVE HIM MUCH MORE, AT LEAST AT 130 POUNDS, LOOK AT HIS LEGS, THEYRE FUCKING GONE, (AND MORALES HAD GOOD FEETWORK WHEN GOING ON THE OFFENSIVE BEFORE) HE DOESNT HAVE BALANCE, HE MOVES WITH DIFFICULTY, HE EVEN JUMPED!!!!! WHEN THROWING A JAB TRYING TO REACH!!!!! HE MOVED HIS RIGHT FOOT FORWARD WHEN DOING A CROSS!!!!!!(WELL, DOING A 1-2)INNUMERABLE TIMES!!!!!
THATS WHY I CANT SAY PAC IS THE BEST, MORALES WAS FUCKING SHOT!!!! AT LEAST FOR THOSE TWO FIGHTS!!!!
BARRERA PUNISHED HIM WORSE IN TH FIRST FIGHT AND STILL MORALES FOUGHT BACK, NEVER WENT DOWN, AND WORKED SO MUCH THAT I DO THINK THE DECISION WAS NOT THAT BAD
THE MORALES THAT FOUGHT BARRERA BACK THEN COULDVE WHOOPED PAC'S ASS!
^ good ole winky for sure, he whooped trinidad and mosley.
I had winky number 1 before the baldameir win for mayweather but i thin that nudged him ahead by a slim margine but i see where ur coming from
i know... but we should include other fighters out there too. i know the top 3 are PBF, PAC & Winky.
My pick:
#1: Winky. He defeated Mosley 2ice, raped Tito for 12 rounds and come on... he beat Taylor in their fight last year. I scored the fight 117-112 for Winky.
#2: Pacman: He defeated 2 future and best featherweight fighter in our ear(MAB & EMx2)
#3: PBF: I know Floyd is great fighter but he became the #1 p4p king after he defeated Gatti. He only defeated 1 elite fighter in his career (Zudah). I won't and can't put him in #1.
FLoyd faced 9 world champs, son.
Hernandez, Castillo, Corrales and Judah were all elites.
I went with winky.
He has incredible defense, and a great jab. His straight quick punches would give anyone fits, and i socred the taylor fight for winky.
Floyd and Pac are close behind, but if Pbf beats Dlh, he easily takes over imo.