Floyd Senior is a clown. He's a great trainer? Other than him constantly SAYING IT what makes him so great? Think about that. It CAN'T BE his work with Oscar because I think Oscar looked better BEFORE he got with Senior. Remember the Sturm fight? And don't even tell me it was his work with Floyd JR. because number one Floyd Sr. wasn't even around for most of his later and amateur and pro career and, 2, Roy Jones SR. developed Roy, Gainer, Arthur Williams AND "Cool" Vince Phillips and is as great as anybody in terms of skills and knowledge... he just never talked about it like Mayweather does. I am laughing when I see SO MANY people claim Mayweather Sr. is so great because of nothing other than he tells them he is. He is almost unintelligible as it is and in the promotion for a fight like this he would make a huge fool of himself and take away from Oscar. As a trainer... if he wants to take ALL the credit, literally, for Oscar being able to beat Jr. because of his input then he should take the blame for Oscar losing to Sturm and Hops. Also food for thought...Senior talks so highly of his defensive system, like it is the force or something, like it is a top secret boxing genius defense system that rules the world... well, I asked Marlon Starling (who beat Sr, twice) about it and he laughed and said "Well, I can tell you that I didn't have any trouble hitting him if that's what your asking." He then showed me the very simple counter move that he used to open Mayweather up and hit him with straight right hands over and over. I am sure Oscar will figure it out all on his own
mayweather sr is a mayweather they all act the same.
he is a cocky trainer and is going to make it seem
like everyone needs him. if you run a buisness your going
to make it seem like your shit is better than the enxt man.
whats the problem with self promotion when it comes to feeding
yourself?
Haha, what an idiot. You really think you're tough, huh? Just another fan trying to get e-famous.
fuck you man, you're the one that started this shit. You came from no where and tried to analyze what I said and that you :owned: me and all that. and WHERE DID I SAY THAT???? WHY CANT YOU QUOTE ME OR SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT OTHER STUFF??????????????? looks like you got :owned:
go listen to emo or something, bitch
well how about you show the posts where I said
""You sounded like you were hating, your delivery was all wrong, but now I understand what your saying. Don't be mad at me..."
"All I know is that Floyd Sr says he is a great trainer and most think so."
oops, you CANT cause I didnt post that you stupid fuckin ***got.
Haha, what an idiot. You really think you're tough, huh? Just another fan trying to get e-famous.
LOL, calm down killer, I don't want to trip your gangsta switch maricon LOL. I took all those quotes from your posts, so don't try to pretend like you aren't just an e-stalker looking for a little cyber-fame, putita.
well how about you show the posts where I said
""You sounded like you were hating, your delivery was all wrong, but now I understand what your saying. Don't be mad at me..."
"All I know is that Floyd Sr says he is a great trainer and most think so."
oops, you CANT cause I didnt post that you stupid fuckin ***got.
the point is though.. ask senior why oscar didnt do well against sturm...i bet he doesnt say it had anything to do with his approach to the fight. if he looked awesome it would have though... u know??
Oscar's always had problems with jabbers, and coming into the fight out of shape and standing in front of him wasn't going to help his cause.
the point is though.. ask senior why oscar didnt do well against sturm...i bet he doesnt say it had anything to do with his approach to the fight. if he looked awesome it would have though... u know??
Yea, but you sarcastically said way to stick up your fighter but you were wrong for doing so because you TOTALLY misread what I said about Jose... I did not insult my fighter in ANY way , shape or form. As for the Boriqua in my photo, no, she is not Puerto Rican,she is Indian.
no ***got. I only said the "way to stick up for your fighter." shit. and maybe your too stupid to notice the sarcasm.
LOL, calm down killer, I don't want to trip your gangsta switch maricon LOL. I took all those quotes from your posts, so don't try to pretend like you aren't just an e-stalker looking for a little cyber-fame, putita.
No, what you were saying was:
"You sounded like you were hating, your delivery was all wrong, but now I understand what your saying. Don't be mad at me..."
"what an honorary qoute. Way to stick up for your fighter."
"All I know is that Floyd Sr says he is a great trainer and most think so."
I believe that is what you were trying to say :banana: :owned:
no ***got. I only said the "way to stick up for your fighter." shit. and maybe your too stupid to notice the sarcasm.
Wow, you're a real .
thats what I was saying.
No, what you were saying was:
"You sounded like you were hating, your delivery was all wrong, but now I understand what your saying. Don't be mad at me..."
"what an honorary qoute. Way to stick up for your fighter."
"All I know is that Floyd Sr says he is a great trainer and most think so."
I believe that is what you were trying to say :banana: :owned:
Floyd Senior is a clown. He's a great trainer? Other than him constantly SAYING IT what makes him so great? Think about that. It CAN'T BE his work with Oscar because I think Oscar looked better BEFORE he got with Senior. Remember the Sturm fight? And don't even tell me it was his work with Floyd JR. because number one Floyd Sr. wasn't even around for most of his later and amateur and pro career and, 2, Roy Jones SR. developed Roy, Gainer, Arthur Williams AND "Cool" Vince Phillips and is as great as anybody in terms of skills and knowledge... he just never talked about it like Mayweather does. I am laughing when I see SO MANY people claim Mayweather Sr. is so great because of nothing other than he tells them he is. He is almost unintelligible as it is and in the promotion for a fight like this he would make a huge fool of himself and take away from Oscar. As a trainer... if he wants to take ALL the credit, literally, for Oscar being able to beat Jr. because of his input then he should take the blame for Oscar losing to Sturm and Hops. Also food for thought...Senior talks so highly of his defensive system, like it is the force or something, like it is a top secret boxing genius defense system that rules the world... well, I asked Marlon Starling (who beat Sr, twice) about it and he laughed and said "Well, I can tell you that I didn't have any trouble hitting him if that's what your asking." He then showed me the very simple counter move that he used to open Mayweather up and hit him with straight right hands over and over. I am sure Oscar will figure it out all on his own
Felix Sturm was actually the only fight that De La Hoya hasn't looked good in since Mayweather Sr. was his trainer. He did better against Mosely in the second fight that in the first, and in my opinion deserved the decision, some would disagree, but he did better against Mosely with Mayweather Sr. training him than without.
He also DID look good against Hopkins. Consider what Hopkins has done to guys like Trinidad and Tarver, who get completely shut out and embarassed. I had Hopkins up by two rounds going into the 9th, when De La Hoya got stopped, and I really thought Oscar was fighting a good fight.
Mayweather Sr. isn't as good as he says he is, don't get me wrong, but he has done good work with Oscar. Also the fact that an intelligent, experienced fighter like De La Hoya completely swears by the guy after going through a lot of trainers does in itself say a lot about him.
Floyd Senior is a clown. He's a great trainer? Other than him constantly SAYING IT what makes him so great? Think about that. It CAN'T BE his work with Oscar because I think Oscar looked better BEFORE he got with Senior. Remember the Sturm fight? And don't even tell me it was his work with Floyd JR. because number one Floyd Sr. wasn't even around for most of his later and amateur and pro career and, 2, Roy Jones SR. developed Roy, Gainer, Arthur Williams AND "Cool" Vince Phillips and is as great as anybody in terms of skills and knowledge... he just never talked about it like Mayweather does. I am laughing when I see SO MANY people claim Mayweather Sr. is so great because of nothing other than he tells them he is. He is almost unintelligible as it is and in the promotion for a fight like this he would make a huge fool of himself and take away from Oscar. As a trainer... if he wants to take ALL the credit, literally, for Oscar being able to beat Jr. because of his input then he should take the blame for Oscar losing to Sturm and Hops. Also food for thought...Senior talks so highly of his defensive system, like it is the force or something, like it is a top secret boxing genius defense system that rules the world... well, I asked Marlon Starling (who beat Sr, twice) about it and he laughed and said "Well, I can tell you that I didn't have any trouble hitting him if that's what your asking." He then showed me the very simple counter move that he used to open Mayweather up and hit him with straight right hands over and over. I am sure Oscar will figure it out all on his own
Awesome post.
I never bet... but.. at first, my first reaction was to OBVIOUSLY go with Floyd... but I don't know..Oscar can PUNCH and he is very smart...great jab... an Oscar win would not surprise me at all.
Cool, I feel better about some of the stuff I've been feeling.
I think Oscar has a shot.
DLH could catch Floyd and change the course of the fight; the way Baldomir caught Zab and took control of that contest.
Lots are counting Oscar completely out - but I won't do that.
Cheers.
Huh?? why do you say that? You MUST HAVE misread what I wrote... I wasnt saying ANYTHING negative towards Jose at all.... the fact is that Jose has a certain style, certain habits etc etc that I cannot really fix or change at this point.... thats true with any fighter and trainer that get together well after the boxer is well established and "set in his ways." More specifically, Jose obviously hass trouble with slick southpaws (Collazo, Simms) and his mentality as a person and his already established philosophy towards fighting just aren't going to change in a way that would allow for him to take an entirely whole new approach to that style. Trust me, I am not saying ANYTHING negative about Jose, you don't understand I think.
still you did great things with Jose. he is a 3 time champ and he won two of those belts with you, you both should be proud. Jose seems like a nice guy i think he could be a Champ agian.
Floyd Senior is a clown. He's a great trainer? Other than him constantly SAYING IT what makes him so great? Think about that. It CAN'T BE his work with Oscar because I think Oscar looked better BEFORE he got with Senior. Remember the Sturm fight? And don't even tell me it was his work with Floyd JR. because number one Floyd Sr. wasn't even around for most of his later and amateur and pro career and, 2, Roy Jones SR. developed Roy, Gainer, Arthur Williams AND "Cool" Vince Phillips and is as great as anybody in terms of skills and knowledge... he just never talked about it like Mayweather does. I am laughing when I see SO MANY people claim Mayweather Sr. is so great because of nothing other than he tells them he is. He is almost unintelligible as it is and in the promotion for a fight like this he would make a huge fool of himself and take away from Oscar. As a trainer... if he wants to take ALL the credit, literally, for Oscar being able to beat Jr. because of his input then he should take the blame for Oscar losing to Sturm and Hops. Also food for thought...Senior talks so highly of his defensive system, like it is the force or something, like it is a top secret boxing genius defense system that rules the world... well, I asked Marlon Starling (who beat Sr, twice) about it and he laughed and said "Well, I can tell you that I didn't have any trouble hitting him if that's what your asking." He then showed me the very simple counter move that he used to open Mayweather up and hit him with straight right hands over and over. I am sure Oscar will figure it out all on his own
Im with you 100%
Wow, you're a real asshole.
Huh?? why do you say that? You MUST HAVE misread what I wrote... I wasnt saying ANYTHING negative towards Jose at all.... the fact is that Jose has a certain style, certain habits etc etc that I cannot really fix or change at this point.... thats true with any fighter and trainer that get together well after the boxer is well established and "set in his ways." More specifically, Jose obviously hass trouble with slick southpaws (Collazo, Simms) and his mentality as a person and his already established philosophy towards fighting just aren't going to change in a way that would allow for him to take an entirely whole new approach to that style. Trust me, I am not saying ANYTHING negative about Jose, you don't understand I think.
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