so what do promoters actually do?

From an article by Tampa Tribune boxing writer Anwar Richardson: Tampa promoter Terry Trekas (One Punch Productions, Inc.) outlines what it takes to put on a boxing show: A. Site Selection In choosing a site, the budget and expected crowd size are the biggest factors. 1. PRICE - INCLUSIVE OF? a. Lighting? If not, negotiate and find lighting contractor b. DJ? If not, negotiate and contract with a DJ c. Tables/chairs/linens? If not, make arrangements for rentals d. Security/ushers? If not, obtain outside security e. Off-duty police (required by commission)? If not, order from correct municipality f. EMTs and ambulance (required by commission)? If not, order from correct municipality g. Set-up and takedown? If not, hire appropriate staff to handle h. Food and beverage? If not, negotiate and contract with caterer i. Servers? If not, hire appropriate servers to handle food and beverage j. Space for dressing rooms and box office? Coordinate space usage k. Weigh-in - at venue or off site? If off site, negotiate deal l. Ground transportation? If not, make transportation deal with limo company m. Hotel accommodations? Included? Discounts? If not, make hotel deal and/or trade out n. Parking? Valet? If not, arrange for B. Advertising 1. PRINT MEDIA a. Sell sponsors on logo placement, etc. b. Posters/flyers - design, produce 1. Must have photos of key fighters 2. Must have logos of key sponsors 3. Must be visually appealing 4. Mailing list/manual distribution to gyms, bars, etc. 5. Event night program - bout sheet, etc. 2. RADIO SPOTS a. Do ticket giveaways b. Negotiate deal for spots with stations 3. PRESS RELEASES a. Local media b. Internet sites c. E-mail and fax blasts 4. TV SPOTS - Not really necessary or within budget if crowd is less than 1,500 5. TICKETMASTER - Get tickets on sale, and on the Web listing C. The Show 1. THE CARD a. Choose fighters to be on card - in-house fighters/local gyms/main event local, or from another promoter? b. Secure matchmaker services c. Matchmaker to obtain opponents for fighters chosen to be on card d. Review/approve matchmaker choices e. Contracts for both sides of the fight f. Order Fight Fax report on all fighters - review for record accuracy and any suspensions g. Submit bouts for approval to commission h. Replace any rejected bouts i. Confirm/obtain required medical clearance for all fighters j. Arrange travel/hotel accommodations for out-of-town fighters and their corner k. Monitor weight and conditioning of all in-house fighters (our guys) l. Order the required medical and general liability insurance - make sure commission and venue has copy m. Order gloves and other supplies such as gauze, tape, autograph gloves, giveaways, etc. n. Make sure sponsors are taken care of; i.e., banner placement, announcements, etc. o. Deal with bout fallouts because of to sparring injuries, sickness and other reasons p. Spend twice as much on last-minute replacement fighters q. Provide excuses/encouragement for the other 20 local fighters that you couldn't get on the card 2. PERSONNEL a. Secure ring announcer b. Confirm EMTs and ambulance c. Confirm off-duty police d. Make sure again your competitor has not pretended to be you and tried to call and cancel the EMTs or the police to mess up your show e. Confirm ring rental with contractor - arrange venue access f. Confirm details and start times with lighting contractor, DJ and videographer. g. Confirm again with commission all bout approvals and all missing medicals h. Confirm arrival times with security team i. Confirm pick-ups and drop-offs with limo company j. If you haven't sold it to an advertiser, make a deal for round-card girls. k. Staff for box office, will call, glove removal, card girl assistance, etc. 3. COMMISSION a. Hotel accommodations for out-of-town officials b. Get officials' pay sheets from commission - do the pay envelopes c. Advise as to location and time of weigh-in d. Get them whatever else they need 4. TICKETS a. Collect money and remaining tickets from fighters b. Distribute ad tradeouts and comp tickets c. Take 350 phone calls from all the people wanting free tickets d. Pick up will-call list and remaining tickets from Ticketmaster e. Make sure your VIP comps are taken care of 5. WEIGH-IN a. Deal in place for meal after weigh-in? If not, get out wallet b. Have fruit plate and beverages available c. Distribute credentials d. Announcements, etc. e. Wait the required two hours for any fighter not making weight, or compensate other side of fight to accept weight as is 6. SHOW a. Make sure all fighters show up by 6 p.m. b. Water and ice in dressing rooms? c. Pay envelopes for fighters ready? d. Set up will call and box office. e. Security/police in place by 6:30. f. Deal with the 20 people who think they should get in free because their cousin knows a guy who used to live next to a guy who. g. Room set up properly? If not, correct it. h. Programs on chairs? i. Lighting set properly? j. Commission ready? k. Lighting tech and DJ in place? l. DJ has bout order for music cues? m. Insurance claim forms ready just in case? n. Make sure announcer has any bout changes, celebrity introductions, other announcements, etc. o. Deal with the usual fighter who forgets the mouthpiece, cup, tape, gauze, trunks, shoes or who knows what. p. Cross your fingers and open the doors. 7. AFTER SHOW a. Make sure everyone got paid. b. Post-event tax form and check to commission. c. Transportation in place for out-of-towners back to airport? d. Venue taken down and put away our banners? Pick up Monday? e. Dressing rooms clear? f. Rental items set for return and didn't disappear? g. Everyone knows about date of next show? h. Relax … take a breath. i. Read review on fightnews.com emphasizing minor lighting snafu or small scuffle in crowd, and downplaying great matches and happy standing-room-only crowd. j. Deal with the 25 calls from people who lost their cell phone, keys, medications, purses, glasses, etc. k. Steal boxer's money.

If you're a U.S. based fighter like Bhops no problem. :) But for fighter like Casamayor, Freitas, Joan Guzman or Pacman . . . there goes the concentration for the preparation for the fight. Eassier said than done Bro. It was sarcastic. The idea that a promoter is unecessarry is a complete joke.

The license and the Hyping are two different things. They need the license so that technically as by the Law they can be held liable for their misdeeds. :) HYPING is the promoters acts to ensure their fighters are marketable and is always on the headlines.:D Unforunately there's just so much of it lately. alright then

From an article by Tampa Tribune boxing writer Anwar Richardson: Tampa promoter Terry Trekas (One Punch Productions, Inc.) outlines what it takes to put on a boxing show: A. Site Selection In choosing a site, the budget and expected crowd size are the biggest factors. 1. PRICE - INCLUSIVE OF? a. Lighting? If not, negotiate and find lighting contractor b. DJ? If not, negotiate and contract with a DJ c. Tables/chairs/linens? If not, make arrangements for rentals d. Security/ushers? If not, obtain outside security e. Off-duty police (required by commission)? If not, order from correct municipality f. EMTs and ambulance (required by commission)? If not, order from correct municipality g. Set-up and takedown? If not, hire appropriate staff to handle h. Food and beverage? If not, negotiate and contract with caterer i. Servers? If not, hire appropriate servers to handle food and beverage j. Space for dressing rooms and box office? Coordinate space usage k. Weigh-in - at venue or off site? If off site, negotiate deal l. Ground transportation? If not, make transportation deal with limo company m. Hotel accommodations? Included? Discounts? If not, make hotel deal and/or trade out n. Parking? Valet? If not, arrange for B. Advertising 1. PRINT MEDIA a. Sell sponsors on logo placement, etc. b. Posters/flyers - design, produce 1. Must have photos of key fighters 2. Must have logos of key sponsors 3. Must be visually appealing 4. Mailing list/manual distribution to gyms, bars, etc. 5. Event night program - bout sheet, etc. 2. RADIO SPOTS a. Do ticket giveaways b. Negotiate deal for spots with stations 3. PRESS RELEASES a. Local media b. Internet sites c. E-mail and fax blasts 4. TV SPOTS - Not really necessary or within budget if crowd is less than 1,500 5. TICKETMASTER - Get tickets on sale, and on the Web listing C. The Show 1. THE CARD a. Choose fighters to be on card - in-house fighters/local gyms/main event local, or from another promoter? b. Secure matchmaker services c. Matchmaker to obtain opponents for fighters chosen to be on card d. Review/approve matchmaker choices e. Contracts for both sides of the fight f. Order Fight Fax report on all fighters - review for record accuracy and any suspensions g. Submit bouts for approval to commission h. Replace any rejected bouts i. Confirm/obtain required medical clearance for all fighters j. Arrange travel/hotel accommodations for out-of-town fighters and their corner k. Monitor weight and conditioning of all in-house fighters (our guys) l. Order the required medical and general liability insurance - make sure commission and venue has copy m. Order gloves and other supplies such as gauze, tape, autograph gloves, giveaways, etc. n. Make sure sponsors are taken care of; i.e., banner placement, announcements, etc. o. Deal with bout fallouts because of to sparring injuries, sickness and other reasons p. Spend twice as much on last-minute replacement fighters q. Provide excuses/encouragement for the other 20 local fighters that you couldn't get on the card 2. PERSONNEL a. Secure ring announcer b. Confirm EMTs and ambulance c. Confirm off-duty police d. Make sure again your competitor has not pretended to be you and tried to call and cancel the EMTs or the police to mess up your show e. Confirm ring rental with contractor - arrange venue access f. Confirm details and start times with lighting contractor, DJ and videographer. g. Confirm again with commission all bout approvals and all missing medicals h. Confirm arrival times with security team i. Confirm pick-ups and drop-offs with limo company j. If you haven't sold it to an advertiser, make a deal for round-card girls. k. Staff for box office, will call, glove removal, card girl assistance, etc. 3. COMMISSION a. Hotel accommodations for out-of-town officials b. Get officials' pay sheets from commission - do the pay envelopes c. Advise as to location and time of weigh-in d. Get them whatever else they need 4. TICKETS a. Collect money and remaining tickets from fighters b. Distribute ad tradeouts and comp tickets c. Take 350 phone calls from all the people wanting free tickets d. Pick up will-call list and remaining tickets from Ticketmaster e. Make sure your VIP comps are taken care of 5. WEIGH-IN a. Deal in place for meal after weigh-in? If not, get out wallet b. Have fruit plate and beverages available c. Distribute credentials d. Announcements, etc. e. Wait the required two hours for any fighter not making weight, or compensate other side of fight to accept weight as is 6. SHOW a. Make sure all fighters show up by 6 p.m. b. Water and ice in dressing rooms? c. Pay envelopes for fighters ready? d. Set up will call and box office. e. Security/police in place by 6:30. f. Deal with the 20 people who think they should get in free because their cousin knows a guy who used to live next to a guy who. g. Room set up properly? If not, correct it. h. Programs on chairs? i. Lighting set properly? j. Commission ready? k. Lighting tech and DJ in place? l. DJ has bout order for music cues? m. Insurance claim forms ready just in case? n. Make sure announcer has any bout changes, celebrity introductions, other announcements, etc. o. Deal with the usual fighter who forgets the mouthpiece, cup, tape, gauze, trunks, shoes or who knows what. p. Cross your fingers and open the doors. 7. AFTER SHOW a. Make sure everyone got paid. b. Post-event tax form and check to commission. c. Transportation in place for out-of-towners back to airport? d. Venue taken down and put away our banners? Pick up Monday? e. Dressing rooms clear? f. Rental items set for return and didn't disappear? g. Everyone knows about date of next show? h. Relax … take a breath. i. Read review on fightnews.com emphasizing minor lighting snafu or small scuffle in crowd, and downplaying great matches and happy standing-room-only crowd. j. Deal with the 25 calls from people who lost their cell phone, keys, medications, purses, glasses, etc. What? That sounds mad easy. The boxers should take some of their precious punching bag time to handle that bullshit themselves :D

me yeah. i want golden boy promotions. but if i make it huuuuuge. i wanna start my own or something to that affect yeah, we are all talking hypothetically if we made it big, no one needs to have security for their second professional fight. this is top level. but yeah, like i said, it couldn't be hard to negotiate and do that whole list. say you workout two hours a day, you then could use the next 6 hours to do all that other stuff. just a thought.

so are you going to have a promoter? i'm training to be a boxer and i haven't made up my mind yet, but i don't think i'm going to have a promoter if i make it big, or find out how to do everything the promoters do, i'm in college right now, so if there are any classes i can take to educate myself on promoting boxing events, i will. me yeah. i want golden boy promotions. but if i make it huuuuuge. i wanna start my own or something to that affect

Why? Because a party planner doesn't have the right contacts to get the best deal for each of every details listed in there and doesn't have the authority to negotiate. :) That's the reason why promoters needs a license. Like for example the big named fighters outside of U.S. is still recquired to have a U.S. promoter in order for them to land a big fight in U,S, couldn't be that hard to get a license.

:eek: CAN YOU IMAGINE A FIGHT SET UP BY "MTV PARTY PLANNERS?!" :pat: I'd slit my wrists 'cause the apocolypse would have to be around the corner. :nonono: im just sayin. look at his list and see what all they do.they can do alot of it.and financial ppl for the rest. im going to see how sugar ray leonard did it. if i remember correctly when he started pro he had investors

Why? Because a party planner doesn't have the right contacts to get the best deal for each of every details listed in there and doesn't have the authority to negotiate. :) That's the reason why promoters needs a license. Like for example the big named fighters outside of U.S. is still recquired to have a U.S. promoter in order for them to land a big fight in U,S, ok thats true. but why do u need a license just to hype a match up and make sure it looks cool and stuff. hell give paris hilton and lil jon a license also.ahaha. but i get what u mean

nope............when your good enough u dont need ppl to promote what they already know.called smarts so are you going to have a promoter? i'm training to be a boxer and i haven't made up my mind yet, but i don't think i'm going to have a promoter if i make it big, or find out how to do everything the promoters do, i'm in college right now, so if there are any classes i can take to educate myself on promoting boxing events, i will.

im serious.:blackeye: look at all the stuff he named. im seen sweet 16 on mtv party planners do 90% of that shit :eek: CAN YOU IMAGINE A FIGHT SET UP BY "MTV PARTY PLANNERS?!" :pat: I'd slit my wrists 'cause the apocolypse would have to be around the corner. :nonono:

but the question remains, would the party planners wnat the same amount as promoters usually get? i doubt it. not if there not named a promoter. the planners ive seen only get thousands of dollars. not millions

nah, i think it's different for everyone, when you get to the ring, you fight and when you get out it's all business again. it might be a little tough, but i think it can be done. So, not only would you have to fine tune your body and your reflexes; but you'd also have to deal with the other fighter's manager over teh purse, the sancitioning bodies, the athletic commissions, the site owner, the taxes and site fees, etc., etc. etc. I'll bet you a million dollards 90% of fighters would say "FUK THAT!"

im serious.:blackeye: look at all the stuff he named. im seen sweet 16 on mtv party planners do 90% of that shit but the question remains, would the party planners wnat the same amount as promoters usually get?

those guys are fucking rich. i saw roy jones' house. so they did not have promoters? nope............when your good enough u dont need ppl to promote what they already know.called smarts

While getting ready to set up Binki the Clown for little Chuckie's 4th birthday party? :thinking: im serious.:blackeye: look at all the stuff he named. im seen sweet 16 on mtv party planners do 90% of that shit

sugar ray leonard nor roy jones had promoters.and look at the money they made for there careers those guys are fucking rich. i saw roy jones' house. so they did not have promoters?

sugar ray leonard nor roy jones had promoters.and look at the money they made for there careers

ok why couldnt a party planner do more then 90% of this.:wave: While getting ready to set up Binki the Clown for little Chuckie's 4th birthday party? :thinking:

i still had the best point.:wave: yeah, but how much would the party planner get paid?