Questions for Thosw Who Saw Peter-Toney II

1. How much of it was improved Peter and how much bad Toney? I honestly think Toney was trying to do exactly what he did last time around, but Peter wasn't letting him, he was using his jab & wasn't close enough for Toney to land as well as last time around 2. What, specifically, did Peter do to up his game; how was his technique improved? Did he use the jab more? Was he more focused on landing straight punches as opposed to winging in big shots? Like I said Peter was using his arm length advantage & the jab very effectively, the distance gave him a better chance to land his shots more accurately, & he also threw combo to punctuate the round. Toney was only landing clean body shots & hard overhand rights that Peter would eat up & keep coming. 3. Did Toney look like himself or has age or something else caught up with him? Toney's always gonna be his arrogant self, he thought he won the fight, even though Roache was being honest & telling him he was behind on points & that he needed to put him away, but Toney didn't seem like himself, the reason behind that is for you to decide, personally I think Peter had alot to do with it. 4. What was the one feeling you took away from this fight that really stands out in your mind? That I had completely & totally underestimated Samuel Peter, it funny I thought Toney would come with a better tactic this time around & Peter would simply fight the same way as he did last time, but I was 100% wrong. Peter looked like a much more well rounded fighter then a few years ago, I was thoroughly impressed.

I think Toney in the end knew he was losing, and knew that he couldn't knock Peter out so he just wanted to end the fight on his feet, Peter improved drastically from the last fight and wouldn't fall into Toney's traps. Toney didn't have a bad performance, Peter just executed his fight plan perfectly.

Peter basically out smarted Toney in every way. When Toney wanted to go to the ropes Peter just stood in the center of the ring. When they did go to the ropes Peter stayed at a distance and threw combinations. Peter's jab bothered Toney all night and his righthand was landing with much more accuracy. Toney was out boxed, out fought and out smarted. Easy decision for Peter. I had it 10-2

I feel that it was a closer fight than people are stating. Peter won but it was no shutout. Peter missed 4-5 big punches in a row and then got countered; it didn't hurt much but Toney won rounds with help from his ring generalship. Toney can still win a title but it may be best to retire unless he can get down to a lower weight division, at this age he is going to have too much difficulty against the top heavies. I also feel bad for Roach, he seems in worse shape. Peter has improved and appears to be a nice guy who has a chance to unify. This fight was not even close. Toney looked slow and awkward. His age is showing. I had it 10-2 Peter. Toney was hurt several times, knocked down by a jab. The Judges had it right on the money.

Just wanted to post a big ole "THANK YOU" to all of you who have responded. You have collectively given me a pretty good idea of what I missed. Thank you all very much. :)

I know a lot of people are harping on how much peter improved his game in this fight and I agree that he did do some things better but in my opinion the big change was mostly that he was just in much better condition in the rematch and it enabled him to be more agressive and his hands were a bit quicker. he has thrown in combinations in early fights and also showed a descent jab in past fights as well but people seem to only remember his first fight with toney and his fight with wlad in which he just couldnt get his jab off due to wlads superiority in that regard and he couldnt get set to throw in combinationa as wlad was moving and jabbing all night NICE post... Peter is not nearly as bad as some people say... I have the Peter Sykes fight on AVI. (his fight before Wlad) and he sets up power with his Jab that whole fight (all 2 rounds of it) He just looked bad against Wlad due to Wlads superior sklills and height.. And I agreed with the edescion the 1st fight aganst Toney..

I still have my doubts about Peter. He clearly won the fight but Toney did land some good shots that he probably shouldn't have due to Peter kind of lurching forward with his hands down. Toney obviously couldn't hurt him too much though but it's still not a good sign. Toney still has excellent head movement, but Peter missed some wild shots that looked really badly aimed and timed. I did like the body work, and the left when he used it, though he was pawing way too much with it to measure for the big right. He threw more combos which is good but they were fairly sloppy. I like Peter and I know he should be able to beat the slow as fuck Oleg easily but I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up getting outboxed; assuming the fight takes place that is.

Peter just fought a smart fucking fight, he fought behind the jab, he moved out of range and covered up well, he just got hit a lot less in general and hit Toney a lot more often, and more cleanly. Peter's fucking jab makes a sound like a right cross when it connects, it's such a heavy punch, and he doubled and even tirpled it up at times. I'd say Toney was slightly worse than he was, maybe 5% worse but Peter was just 100% better. Toney really did not fight bad, he landed some vicious punches occasionally thoughout the fight but they did NOTHING and Peter would throw back and land with a hook a half second after taking Toney's best stuff. Toney just can't hurt Peter period and he has a hard time hitting this new smarter Peter consistently. He would get beaten even worse in a third fight. I know a lot of people are harping on how much peter improved his game in this fight and I agree that he did do some things better but in my opinion the big change was mostly that he was just in much better condition in the rematch and it enabled him to be more agressive and his hands were a bit quicker. he has thrown in combinations in early fights and also showed a descent jab in past fights as well but people seem to only remember his first fight with toney and his fight with wlad in which he just couldnt get his jab off due to wlads superiority in that regard and he couldnt get set to throw in combinationa as wlad was moving and jabbing all night

What was the one feeling you took away from this fight that really stands out in your mind? Thank you. I feel that it was a closer fight than people are stating. Peter won but it was no shutout. Peter missed 4-5 big punches in a row and then got countered; it didn't hurt much but Toney won rounds with help from his ring generalship. Toney can still win a title but it may be best to retire unless he can get down to a lower weight division, at this age he is going to have too much difficulty against the top heavies. I also feel bad for Roach, he seems in worse shape. Peter has improved and appears to be a nice guy who has a chance to unify.

I didn't watch this fight because of the sickening feeling both left me with in the first one and didn't see how either could improve upon that miserable fight....obviously, I was wrong; and I am kicking my ass over my boycott. Now, after reading some write-ups and some posts on the rematch, I am really curious about what happened and want to develope a mental picture of the fight and what needs to be taken away from it. So, if any of you who saw it would be so kind as to answer one or all of the following questions, it would be much appreciated. 1. How much of it was improved Peter and how much bad Toney? 2. What, specifically, did Peter do to up his game; how was his technique improved? Did he use the jab more? Was he more focused on landing straight punches as opposed to winging in big shots? 3. Did Toney look like himself or has age or something else caught up with him? 4. What was the one feeling you took away from this fight that really stands out in your mind? Thank you. Toney was the same,it was just that Peter has improved so much,he actualy threw fast 5 punch combos,and a great jab,he jab'd in threes Toney looked himself,but he knew deep inside he was losing,but he didnt go 4 a knockout

Peter just fought a smart fucking fight, he fought behind the jab, he moved out of range and covered up well, he just got hit a lot less in general and hit Toney a lot more often, and more cleanly. Peter's fucking jab makes a sound like a right cross when it connects, it's such a heavy punch, and he doubled and even tirpled it up at times. I'd say Toney was slightly worse than he was, maybe 5% worse but Peter was just 100% better. Toney really did not fight bad, he landed some vicious punches occasionally thoughout the fight but they did NOTHING and Peter would throw back and land with a hook a half second after taking Toney's best stuff. Toney just can't hurt Peter period and he has a hard time hitting this new smarter Peter consistently. He would get beaten even worse in a third fight.

I didn't watch this fight because of the sickening feeling both left me with in the first one and didn't see how either could improve upon that miserable fight....obviously, I was wrong; and I am kicking my ass over my boycott. Now, after reading some write-ups and some posts on the rematch, I am really curious about what happened and want to develope a mental picture of the fight and what needs to be taken away from it. So, if any of you who saw it would be so kind as to answer one or all of the following questions, it would be much appreciated. 1. How much of it was improved Peter and how much bad Toney? 2. What, specifically, did Peter do to up his game; how was his technique improved? Did he use the jab more? Was he more focused on landing straight punches as opposed to winging in big shots? 3. Did Toney look like himself or has age or something else caught up with him? 4. What was the one feeling you took away from this fight that really stands out in your mind? Thank you. ....IMO it was more a case of Peter improving and having a stronger desire to step up his game. Toney didn't look bad really it was just that Peter brought his A game. He landed the jab a ton and shortened up his punches in order to be more accurate. He still threw the looping shots but it was definitely more controlled this time. I now feel that Sam Peter can be the future and possible savior of the heavyweight division. Of course I don't want him to take over until Wlady is gone. :)

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