They remind me of Toney the person, who for all of his invulnerability in the boxing ring is a fragile person outside of it. He can spew the nastiest things at people but then is hurt deeply when anyone takes a jab at him.
You Toney fans remind me of him. Lightsout stalks me on every thread I make, insults me personally in uncalled for ways, even sends threatening pms, and then when I make a mild thread taking the piss out of Toney's delusional and bad sportsmanship, everyone is up in arms as if I'm the one calling people names and talking shit.
Toney brings it upon himself, and so do you. You should revaluate what it is about Toney's ugly, hateful persona you like so much.
I thought Jones appealed it? I knew it has been alledged I just didnt know he actually failed a test. I remember Mosely getting in big trouble for it thats it.
Anywho a lot of the top boxers have probably at one time done some sort of performance enhancing drug.
Jones and King probably threw some money at it, the corrupt IBF ignored it, but yes he absolutley tested positive. He blamed it on Ripped Fuel, if I remember right. This was for the Richard Hall fight.
Both Toney and Jones have tested positive after fights.
I thought Jones appealed it? I knew it has been alledged I just didnt know he actually failed a test. I remember Mosely getting in big trouble for it thats it.
Anywho a lot of the top boxers have probably at one time done some sort of performance enhancing drug.
I never said that. I have Jones above Toney because he beat him. I dont need to discredit James while Im at it though. I think of Jones' wins against Toney and Hopkins as legit. If Toney was weight drained so be it. I know by watching both fighters that Jones' style was a nightmare for Toney. James at his complete best would probably be outclassed by Jones.
What I am saying is if you are trying to defend your fighter you can pull as much useless bullshit out of your ass as you can just to get the upperhand.
"Toney makes too many excuses!" Isnt Roy the same guy who said he LOST on purpose so his dad wouldnt get credit?
"Roy took roids!" Isnt Toney the one who tested POSITIVE after a championship fight?
"Roy didnt fight nobody!" uhhhh he beat Toney....
Its simple to go on and on with this. Anybody will do it just to defend their fighter.
Both Toney and Jones have tested positive after fights.
I don't agree with this paragraph simply because:
You're placing Toney as Jones' equal. GTFO. Jones > Toney x Multiplier.
I never said that. I have Jones above Toney because he beat him. I dont need to discredit James while Im at it though. I think of Jones' wins against Toney and Hopkins as legit. If Toney was weight drained so be it. I know by watching both fighters that Jones' style was a nightmare for Toney. James at his complete best would probably be outclassed by Jones.
What I am saying is if you are trying to defend your fighter you can pull as much useless bullshit out of your ass as you can just to get the upperhand.
"Toney makes too many excuses!" Isnt Roy the same guy who said he LOST on purpose so his dad wouldnt get credit?
"Roy took roids!" Isnt Toney the one who tested POSITIVE after a championship fight?
"Roy didnt fight nobody!" uhhhh he beat Toney....
Its simple to go on and on with this. Anybody will do it just to defend their fighter.
No offense, this is boxing man, not figure skating! Whoever gets upset over some trash talking from boxers, then they need some mental help!
Sorry, I just don't see how anyone can get upset over some trash talking in a sport where two men are trying to kill eachother in the ring!
there is a difference between trash talking and racist talking and bullshit talking
he said there isnt going to be a white champion nearly a year ago and he said that he kicked the G-Mans ass during sparring even when the guy is paralysied is not a good time to talk like that.
but if he says he is the best fighter and beaten the shit outta of everyone is okay or if he said he is p4p champ better than Ali is okay
Shit, wannabe is really choking me, please help!:crying:
Asswipe (semicolon)
You would be less fiesty after last night's ass tainting.....but you're too riled up trying to defend whatever statements are made about your African American, overeating, Who needs Rogaine Surrogate Father.
End it, You don't give Roy or Benn enough Credit and Toney's sack needs Oxygen.
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Why do people always have to get to the point where they end up discrediting fighters just so they can get the upper hand in an argument?
Toney has had bad times, Jones has had bad times. Both have lost, both have been recognized champs, both have given excuses on why they have lost big fights. Toney was weight drained against Jones, Jones was weight drained against Tarver. Is it true? Maybe. Either way both are going down as hall of famers.
People hate Toney because he comes off as an asshole on TV. Fine, if you really take what an athlete says or does on tv seriously then thats you. Personally I dont because nobody really knows what anybody is like off camera. Ive never heard of Toney being a dick to fans. Ive never heard of him causing any problems in his personal life. Some people are just arrogant and if he wasnt like that mentally then he probably wouldnt be so good in the ring.
Half of the person is his tounge and the other half his his soul if you take it out there will only be left blood and bones - quoted from famous arabic poetry i remeber.
word could cause alot of trouble say something about you. espeically if you say something publicly.
yes many fighters have thoughes but only few goes out to the public i dont need some bullshit talk if you are not fighting well and even not trying hard enough because fighters are made in training camp rather in the ring
Who cares what you think! :owned:
Post the "owned" icon one more time. See if I don't secretly sneak out of my screen and choke your wrong, biased, annoying ass. I dur you.
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Toney has had bad times, Jones has had bad times. Both have lost, both have been recognized champs, both have given excuses on why they have lost big fights. Toney was weight drained against Jones, Jones was weight drained against Tarver. Is it true? Maybe. Either way both are going down as hall of famers.
I don't agree with this paragraph simply because:
You're placing Toney as Jones' equal. GTFO. Jones > Toney x Multiplier.
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Toney could have faced many good MW and SMW but didnt.
even Roy Jones didnt fight Eubank and Benn in Britian when he was at his prime do you think Toney will which Roy made a mockery outta him.
Nigel Benn KOed Ian Barkely 3 year before Toney did and did it in 1st round
Thats an overstatement. He faced four future/present hall of famers. Nobody overseas wanted to fight. It worked both ways. I dont care who "dodged" who or whatever.
The thing everyone hates about boxing fans is their blind love for their favorite fighters and the doube-standards by which they evaluate them.
For instance, Bozo made that old thread about "Maskaev FLOORED BY A JAB! ROFL" after Whitaker-Maskaev, but something tells me you won't see "Toney FLOORED BY A JAB! ROFL" posted today. ;) Oh, just call it a crazy hunch...
Toney has a few truly outstanding wins and performances, but about twice as many lethargic, flat performances where he lost close fights or won unimpressively. He's not an ATG, but he's a very good fighter.
Why do people always have to get to the point where they end up discrediting fighters just so they can get the upper hand in an argument?
Toney has had bad times, Jones has had bad times. Both have lost, both have been recognized champs, both have given excuses on why they have lost big fights. Toney was weight drained against Jones, Jones was weight drained against Tarver. Is it true? Maybe. Either way both are going down as hall of famers.
People hate Toney because he comes off as an asshole on TV. Fine, if you really take what an athlete says or does on tv seriously then thats you. Personally I dont because nobody really knows what anybody is like off camera. Ive never heard of Toney being a dick to fans. Ive never heard of him causing any problems in his personal life. Some people are just arrogant and if he wasnt like that mentally then he probably wouldnt be so good in the ring.
Watch the fight again, you don't know what would've happen if there was a second round, Barkley had the power to KO benn!
All I can is that the fans were robbed of a great fucking fight, one of those mother fuckers would've been knocked out, that's for sure!
i dont think so because in the G-Man fight Nigel was down twice or three times and one was outside the ring and then he came back strong