for kesslers promoters to get joe to fight they would have to offer him at least 75 percent of the combined purse, calzaghe is motivated by money and not fame. kessler knows a win over calzaghe would put him amonst the high earners in world boxing so why not make calzaghe an offer he cannot refuse.
The reason kesslers promoters wont make that offer is they know calzaghe would be to good for there man the only way calzaghe losses this fight is if his age catches up with him.
Then lets see Calzaghe expose him. If he's such a hype-job it should be no more problem than Ashira, Pudwell or the likes. Just another warm-up for Calzaghe right?
But uh oh no.. Calzaghe has decided that his long-standing ultimate ambition of unifying SMW is no longer important (since Kessler got in the way). He has redefined his ambitions so that he's damn sure Kessler wont be waiting along the road he chooses.
It's all good and fine to take easy fights against Bika or Manfredo. But god forbid he should have to face another hype job in Kessler right?
Damn that makes sense.
Joe is such a wanker. A skilled wanker maybe - but a wanker nevertheless.
You can not make UK Calzaghe-fans understand this.They make every excuse as to why he should not fight Kessler
wait up so because hes talkin shit about JC hes a hypejob, if he was a hypejob he wouldnt have stopped siaca in a round, he wouldnt have went to australia and won a shutout over mundine, he wouldnt have stopped beyer in 3
As some fat septic almost said, 1 out of 3 aint bad.
Don't you get bored of typing the same shit about Kessler, just admit it: Kessler is a fucking hypejob.
Then lets see Calzaghe expose him. If he's such a hype-job it should be no more problem than Ashira, Pudwell or the likes. Just another warm-up for Calzaghe right?
But uh oh no.. Calzaghe has decided that his long-standing ultimate ambition of unifying SMW is no longer important (since Kessler got in the way). He has redefined his ambitions so that he's damn sure Kessler wont be waiting along the road he chooses.
It's all good and fine to take easy fights against Bika or Manfredo. But god forbid he should have to face another hype job in Kessler right?
Damn that makes sense.
Joe is such a wanker. A skilled wanker maybe - but a wanker nevertheless.
Don't you get bored of typing the same shit about calzaghe,just admit calzaghe is a fucking coward
Don't you get bored of typing the same shit about Kessler, just admit it: Kessler is a fucking hypejob.
Calzaghe fans want him to fight Kessler where as UK Calzaghe fans do not.They make every excuse as to why he should not fight Kessler yet cant justify him fighting Manfredo(NOT THE CONTENDER CHAMP BUT THE FUCKING RUNNER UP)
i want him to fight kessler. most boxing fans should want to see their favourite fighters involved in competitive match-ups.
but this rarely happens in the real world of boxing. in the ideal world there would be one title per weight class, no promoters, and every title match would get worldwide tv coverage no matter who was fighting.
i aint saying that Calzaghe has had the most charmed career and that it's been easy, but as far as taking risks other than stepping into the ring, it's been minimal at best, why not unify, if Kessler is a nothing then what was up with fighting Ahsira, Bika, Salem, Pudwill, etc, why not add Kessler to the list of no names, ooh i know why because he actually has the two main belts the WBC and the WBA, WTF guy now he's fighting manfredo, who by the way isnt ready for this kind of fight, but manfredo has nothing to offer by beating him, like i said before if he wants exposure make a title fight and broadcast it in the states, but they won't they're going to ride the fact that manfredo was on a tv show and milk it for has much as they can. i really hope manfredo shits in his wheaties.
Calzaghe fans want him to fight Kessler where as UK Calzaghe fans do not.They make every excuse as to why he should not fight Kessler yet cant justify him fighting Manfredo(NOT THE CONTENDER CHAMP BUT THE FUCKING RUNNER UP)
calzaghe has been a champ for a decade.
Yes,calzaghe has been a champ for a decade and he has just fought bums and handpicked opponent :asshole: :bryce:
The Bika fight was a comeback fight after a long lay off for HBO... the Manfredo fight is for public profile in the US, again arranged by HBO (you know, the company that's paying Joe $$$$$$ and don't give a fuck about Kessler).
Don't you get BORED of typing the same shit? Schnell, schnell!
Don't you get bored of typing the same shit about calzaghe,just admit calzaghe is a fucking coward
hey, if it wasn't for them yanks europe would be one country, we'd all be talkin in german, wearing leather pants and have pictures of felix sturm plastered on our bedroom walls.
False, Germany allready lost the war when the US attacked Germany. So you would be speakin russian with a picture of Valuev over your bed! Sleep well...
i don't think warren / calzaghe actually get to choose what gets broadcast in the states.
excuse my ignorance but i'd of thought that calzaghe-manfredo would get more viewers in the US than calzaghe-kessler, i.e greater exposure. obviously, calzaghe-kessler would be the fight real boxing fans would want to see but which do you think hbo would prefer?
i don't think they really care to be honest, manfredo is known but he isnt really a household name, he has some fame but nothing that is going to make people want to follow his career or make people want to watch him against Calzaghe, sad to say casual American fans only are interested in fights when there is massive hype and both guys fighting are big names, other than that the casual fans could care less, sad to say.
so it really doesn't matter all they really want to see is a good ass scrap.
although it was UFC and it was the end of a television series, two unknowns forrest griffin and stephen bonnar had a hell of a fight and during their fight ratings grew and grew during the actual fight, no one was watching in the states until it became a WAR, then people started calling their friends and telling them to tune in.
so that being said and although it's MMA and not boxing, but it was the fight itself that got people to watch and not the fighters themselves, now after that fight any time either one of those two guys fight people are going to watch.
in the states until you have some shit like that, people don't care what the names are, so i think that you could have calzaghe vs kessler and if they put on a hell of a show there is the exposure that they want. manfredo is only going to bring a little draw, i think it's just warren and joe trying to take easy pickens, smoke and mirrors, it's some defense lawyer type shit.
like i said before if he wants exposure make a title fight and broadcast it in the states, but they won't they're going to ride the fact that manfredo was on a tv show and milk it for has much as they can. i really hope manfredo shits in his wheaties.
i don't think warren / calzaghe actually get to choose what gets broadcast in the states.
excuse my ignorance but i'd of thought that calzaghe-manfredo would get more viewers in the US than calzaghe-kessler, i.e greater exposure. obviously, calzaghe-kessler would be the fight real boxing fans would want to see but which do you think hbo would prefer?
i aint saying that Calzaghe has had the most charmed career and that it's been easy, but as far as taking risks other than stepping into the ring, it's been minimal at best, why not unify, if Kessler is a nothing then what was up with fighting Ahsira, Bika, Salem, Pudwill, etc, why not add Kessler to the list of no names, ooh i know why because he actually has the two main belts the WBC and the WBA, WTF guy now he's fighting manfredo, who by the way isnt ready for this kind of fight, but manfredo has nothing to offer by beating him, like i said before if he wants exposure make a title fight and broadcast it in the states, but they won't they're going to ride the fact that manfredo was on a tv show and milk it for has much as they can. i really hope manfredo shits in his wheaties.
LOL, I love the way that SOME US posters see "Europe" (a conglomerate of 25 separate countries with VERY different cultures and many differing ideals) as being part of the same "backyard". This is particularly hilarious when it gets said about Germany. :)
Like a UK fighter is gonna get favours from there. They're still remembering the azz pwnage we gave 'em during the war. (And the Americans helped clean up after it was practically over, despite what they get taught in schools)
hey, if it wasn't for them yanks europe would be one country, we'd all be talkin in german, wearing leather pants and have pictures of felix sturm plastered on our bedroom walls.
yeh but what brings more money to the table?
a fight no1 cares about apart from boxin fans, hopkins is a household name in the states and is a HOF'er.
get off the kessler boat u twat... calzaghe has been a champ for a decade. just like hopkins. if kessler wants calzaghe his promotor should offer 95% of the purse. with all UK judges if he thinks Kessler is the best. yes im fukin ignnorent. who gives a fuk about kessler anyway.
who is he? and whos he fought..
EXACTly
:bryce:
95% there it goes again hiding behind the money.......................and the whole europe and being neighbors over there, ya know different countries and all, that's just to get you sissy la la's goat. the point of all that is warren never makes or takes a risk with his cash cow, calzaghe has lived under protection his whole career, fighting hand picked guys and never fighting out of his comfort zone. saying that isnt true you're in denial.
Congratulations, you've just mastered the art of "ignorant Yankee doddle dandy geography". Well done.
Scotland is part of the UK. Europe is composed of a number of very different countries: The US is just one country. A US fighter fighting in another US state is the same kind of thing as Calzaghe fighting in England and Scotland. A US fighter fighting in Germany is the same as a british fighter fighting in Germany: They're in a completely foreign land with a hostile crowd facing German officials (David Starie, Robin Reid, Charles Brewer: Two Brits, one US American, all three robbed in Germany).
Lesson for today: Europe is not a single homogeneous entity, unlike say, Florida and New Jersey there are massive differences between independent sovereign countries such as Germany and the United Kingdom.
Great post...very intelligent.
Ian
whoopty fucking doo, that is so far from home. it's like saying that an american fighter is a world traveled fighter because he fought in tijuana, twice.
or fought in another state in the US. it's might as well be home, like his promoter doesn't have ties in those countries, why do you think he fought over there because he's covered, that's the only reason he fought out of town. i say town because everything is so close in europe.
i aint getting on you bro but damn dude that isnt really isnt taking a risk, other than getting into the ring.
my thing is this Calzaghe is a extremely good fighter, why does he need all the boxing politics to protect him? why does he need shifty match making to his career? why isnt he fighting the top opposition in and around his division? it's either frank warren is trying to cash in on him as much as possible or it's that they're afraid to step outside his comfort zone. and i'm sick and tired of hearing that Calzaghe makes more money in his home town, that's bullshit because at this point it ought to be about staying undefeated and beating the best opposition out there, not fighting has beens and guys that aren't ready yet, 98% of which have been in Calzaghes turf......
and why doesn't Calzaghe fight Kessler and try and unify?why?uh?why?
Congratulations, you've just mastered the art of "ignorant Yankee doddle dandy geography". Well done.
Scotland is part of the UK. Europe is composed of a number of very different countries: The US is just one country. A US fighter fighting in another US state is the same kind of thing as Calzaghe fighting in England and Scotland. A US fighter fighting in Germany is the same as a british fighter fighting in Germany: They're in a completely foreign land with a hostile crowd facing German officials (David Starie, Robin Reid, Charles Brewer: Two Brits, one US American, all three robbed in Germany).
Lesson for today: Europe is not a single homogeneous entity, unlike say, Florida and New Jersey there are massive differences between independent sovereign countries such as Germany and the United Kingdom.
ha, that would seem to be the best way to guarantee a fight with Calzaghe. that or look like you have nothing to offer if he beats you.
That would mean Kessler would have to lose some fights.:nonono:
why does he need all the boxing politics to protect him? why does he need shifty match making to his career? why isnt he fighting the top opposition in and around his division? it's either frank warren is trying to cash in on him as much as possible or it's that they're afraid to step outside his comfort zone. and i'm sick and tired of hearing that Calzaghe makes more money in his home town, that's bullshit because at this point it ought to be about staying undefeated and beating the best opposition out there, not fighting has beens and guys that aren't ready yet, 98% of which have been in Calzaghes turf......
and why doesn't Calzaghe fight Kessler and try and unify?why?uh?why?
I would say it is fair to say that Warren has a huge influence in WBO. The only one who has similar influence is Klaus Peter Kohl. That is why Calzaghe had to face a mandatory. Even the tv-networks of Warren and Kohl has been written in to the regulations of WBO:
(In the event that the Champion has a contract with a major television network (HBO, SHOWTIME, ZDF, Sky or other similar broadcast company), is an acceptable challenger to the Champion’s television network.)
Perhaps Kessler could try out for The Contender next year and hope it leads to a fight with Calzaghe down the road :burnout:
ha, that would seem to be the best way to guarantee a fight with Calzaghe. that or look like you have nothing to offer if he beats you.