Whos the smarter fighter Hopkins or Toney?

Your opinions gotta be Hop. If Toney was so smart, he wouldn't come into big fights weighing 240 pounds.

Hopkins.....you ever seen B-Hopp come into a fight in less than perfect fighting shape? :notworthy

Though Toney is better..

Hopkins is.

james toney goes into the ring at 230 + pounds and managed to draw with the heavyweight champion of the world ...i'd say thats pretty fucking smart ! not to mention over comming how many illegal blows? I scored that fight for Rahman. I thought that Toney wasn't busy enough.

james toney goes into the ring at 230 + pounds and managed to draw with the heavyweight champion of the world ...i'd say thats pretty fucking smart ! not to mention over comming how many illegal blows?

Who do you think out of thoes two?? i think PBF was a bit smarter than Hopkins in terms of career choices. He hopped up weights and fought good(not always great) opposition.

I'd go with Hopkins both inside the ring and out. Anyone who comes into a fight as out of shape as Toney, I have a tough time saying they're a real "smart" fighter. With Hopkins, I think he's smart to the point that it makes him boring to watch. Toney is smart (if we're talking in the ring only), but fights a much more entertaining style. Agreed. That's what I was thinking. Smart, Toney? Amazing natural talent, but "smart" is not something he always shows me.

How bout Toney vs Jones? Hopkins has never been outclassed as Toney has.Yeah, that. I guess you can say that even the smart ones have their days. But with that said, Hop wasn't very smart twice against Taylor. And Taylor was not exactly comparable to the peak Jones Jr. It was a time when Roy made everyone look bad; he was widely hailed as a class of his own. It was that same Roy Jones Jr. who a year earlier beat Hopkins at a lower division. Taylor has not made any star look bad. Hopkins just simply had little activity in both fights and what little more activity Taylor showed appealed to the judges. In sum, Jones beat both Hopkins and Toney; Hopkins seemed to have allowed himself to be beaten by Taylor. And that ain't very smart. Note: JOnes himself wasn't very smart in the first Montell Griffin fight.

If you mean training/conditioning is included then i would say Hopkins but if you mean inside the ring, Toney's ring smarts are superior's to Hopkins. I agree here.

Your opinions Hopkins.....you ever seen B-Hopp come into a fight in less than perfect fighting shape?

Toney. He seems to do whatever it takes to win. Hopkins is smart....but his loses recently were in part due to just being stupid in the ring.

Yeah, Hop is smart enough to invest a lot of time on preparation. As for ring smarts, Hop waited too long in both Taylor fights. That wasn't very smart. How bout Toney vs Jones? Hopkins has never been outclassed as Toney has.

i think there both the same because each one have his own point of view to fight someone that is way you have many different style. But Toney is lazy and not displine as well as a smart ass talker and that is way he doesnt have the ability to reach to the top.

If you mean training/conditioning is included then i would say Hopkins but if you mean inside the ring, Toney's ring smarts are superior's to Hopkins.Yeah, Hop is smart enough to invest a lot of time on preparation. As for ring smarts, Hop waited too long in both Taylor fights. That wasn't very smart.

Hopkins, the question should be, 'who's smarter out of Hopkins and PBF'. Who do you think out of thoes two??

If you mean training/conditioning is included then i would say Hopkins but if you mean inside the ring, Toney's ring smarts are superior's to Hopkins.

I'd go with Hopkins both inside the ring and out. Anyone who comes into a fight as out of shape as Toney, I have a tough time saying they're a real "smart" fighter. With Hopkins, I think he's smart to the point that it makes him boring to watch. Toney is smart (if we're talking in the ring only), but fights a much more entertaining style.

they're about the same, different walks of life make different styles make different choices but both are pretty much equal to being smart inside the ring. if i had to choose, i'd say hopkins is smarter based on his discipline inside and outside the ring when it comes to his conditioning. other than that they're about the same. although i think hopkins exercises his tactics a little better than toney, fighting on the inside and frustrating his opponents. but now i'm just splitting hairs.............

He was taking the steroids after he injured himself, n00blet. If that was true then he should have alerted the Commission that he was taking steroids for his bicep tear BEFORE the fight, instead of saying that afterword when he tested positive.