Yesterday afternoon at a gas station in Brentwood, CA; Ray Leonard was standing in front on me buying Vitamin Water and health bars. After praising his greatness and an autograph I asked Ray if Mayweather really said to Ray that he wouldn't be in the top ten if he was fighting today.
Ray shook his head and said what I was thinking:
"..he (Floyd) doesn't know what he's talking about.."
I have to agree. Floyd is tremendous, but Ray would have knocked him out himself. Hagler would have done it faster, and Hearns would have done it undoubtedly. Duran would have given Mayweather nightmares.
Anyone confused about that besides Floyd?..
Hi guys, yesterday I went in a strip-tease bar and I met SUGAR RAY LEONARD !!! After sucking his dick, he told me Pbf was a bum and Butterbean is the GOAT.
Does it sound honest enough to you K-DOGG ??
There is why too much "dick" talk around here..
I'm starting to wonder about some of you..
Hypothetical jokes involving sucking someone off are derfinately Freudian.
Leonard just informed me that you're lying!
You need to come to LA then, dude.
It's no thing to see Steven Spielberg, Pam Anderson, or Oscar De LA Hoya at Jamba Juice, or Ms. Fields Cookies.
The night before I sat at the table next to Michael Imperioli at Chez Mimi in Pacific Palisades.. Behind us was Betty White..
At the same gas station the attendant who was helping Ray and myself informed me Sylvester Stallone was there earlier that same day. Ray thought that was funny.. (I'm not sure why, of course..)
Check Stallone's itinerary (if possible) and see if he wasn't in LA at that time- promoting "Balboa."
At that same station I've seen John Travolta, Kurt Russell, Robert DeNiro, and Brooke Shields getting gas.. (Barrington/Sunset)
DON'T let me start naming all the names I see every time I leave the house..
Pretty Boy Floyd Is One Of My Favorite Fighters Of All Time, But I Dont Know How He Can Really Believe That He Is Invincible, Specially When He Got That Gift Decision Against Castillo, and still he is hypocrite enough to say he is UNDEFEATED, maybe thats why i like Floyd, but im not his fan, I Would Respect Him More If He Had That Loss In His Record, after all he did beat Castillo in the rematch
I thought the whole point of this thread was not could PBF beat Hagler, Hearns etc but the disrespect that he has for fighters Leonard) who paved the way for him. If you are a PBF fan this should be your chance to shake your head and wonder wtf was he thinkin. This is why there are PBF haters because PBF can't keep his mouth shut and just blow guys out of the water, he has to talk, talk, talk. Sometimes cry, cry, cry.
Hi guys, yesterday I went in a strip-tease bar and I met SUGAR RAY LEONARD !!! After sucking his dick, he told me Pbf was a bum and Butterbean is the GOAT.
Does it sound honest enough to you K-DOGG ??
i dont see how people keep putting him in dreamfights 4divisions from his best
I agree. 147 and 154 are not Floyd's best. I think 140 or 135 may be Floyd's best weight.
Floyd is the dogs bollocks but Hagler, SRL, Hearns and Duran all beat the fuck out of him! Floyds naturaly lighter than the 1st 3 but Duran beats him in any division!
yeah, yeah, yeah. so you claim people are doubtful that floyd can beat oscar. hello, wake up. it is not the first time people have doubted floyd, but for some strange reason, i don't know, maybe it's just me, but for some reason, floyd always ends up the victor. he always wins. hmmm. sounds to me that well, all of the doubters have been proven wrong. we'll just have to wait and see them get proved wrong again come may 5th, because i posted it before and i will right now, floyd is going to destroy oscar de la hoya. just watch. and when it does happen, i don't see any posts with excuses for oscar, because just like with baldomir and gatti, i read so many excuses that i almost started to copy and paste them and send them off to baldomir and gatti themselves so they could read them and come on tv and publicy announce to the world that boxing forums are filled with a bunch of contradicting people who wouldn't know boxing if they were born inside a joe frazier gym and got their umbilical cord cut by ali while ray leonard filmed it. now, maybe i'm getting a little ahead of myself, but doesn't matter, come may 5th 2007, the boxing world from the critcs to the fans to oscar himself with floyd mayweather sr. will see a brilliant masterpiece of a performance from floyd maweater jr. i'm telling you right now internet junkiesm floyd is going to destroy oscar de la hoya, and when it happen i am going to laugh in a very valitile way ay every one of you who downtype floyd. so get ready now. pbftxrs316 signing off.
i agree with you 100%
The discussion with Ray was in terms of quality of opposition.
I agree with the weight disparity you refer to. I concede.
Both men same weight: Ray is better.
Floyd is a genuis. But Margarito is no Hearns. And Floyd embarrasingly avoided Margarito.
Ray fought lanky hearns, and compact basher Hagler. Win, win.
Floyd: lose, lose.
Floyd is crazy and DISRESPECTFUL to state Leonard's lack of impact in any era.
I mean, come on..
I am by no means promoting Floyds comments about past all time greats.
However, I dont think the Margirito Hearns comparison is valid either.
One, Margirito isnt within light years of Thomas Hearns in terms of any aspect of boxing.
Two, just becuase Floyd didnt fight Tony doesnt mean Tony is better. The fight would be an extremly one sided decision in Floyds favor.
The discussion with Ray was in terms of quality of opposition.
I agree with the weight disparity you refer to. I concede.
Both men same weight: Ray is better.
Floyd is a genuis. But Margarito is no Hearns. And Floyd embarrasingly avoided Margarito.
Ray fought lanky hearns, and compact basher Hagler. Win, win.
Floyd: lose, lose.
Floyd is crazy and DISRESPECTFUL to state Leonard's lack of impact in any era.
I mean, come on..
He avoided margarito because Margarito is not worthy to be mentioned in the same sentence as him, let alone be in a ring with him. margarito is a joke, and a stay active type fight for Floyd. He is no real threat or competition. I agree with Leonard dominating his era and having impact on boxing and be a legend an all that, but I don't think he beat Hagler. he only fought or exchanged the last few seconds of every round. He basically stole the fight and Hagler was stupid for allowing Leonard to dictate the ring size and for fighting SRL fight. Also SRL didn't fight Hagler right away, he waited until he got older and was more vulernable, then he fought him so that is little suspect too. Skill for skill, I think Floyd is better. SRL just had a bigger punch which bailed him out a lot. No way herans would have hit Floyd as much as he was hitting SRL, and Leonard would have lost that fight if Hearns had some kind of chin.
That's my point. Could Mayweather beat Hagler? Ray did.
People are doubtful PBF can beat De La Hoya.. At jr. MIDDLEWEIGHT.
Floyd is slick, and my heart will be with him when he plays roullete with Oscars left hook. I hope Floyd doesn't get hurt, honestly.
I hope you realize it will only take one. Just one.
hagler would ruin floyd's pretty face. there's NO FUCKING WAY floyd ever beats hagler, no fucking way, even on steroids
That's my point. Could Mayweather beat Hagler? Ray did.
People are doubtful PBF can beat De La Hoya.. At jr. MIDDLEWEIGHT.
Floyd is slick, and my heart will be with him when he plays roullete with Oscars left hook. I hope Floyd doesn't get hurt, honestly.
I hope you realize it will only take one. Just one.yeah, yeah, yeah. so you claim people are doubtful that floyd can beat oscar. hello, wake up. it is not the first time people have doubted floyd, but for some strange reason, i don't know, maybe it's just me, but for some reason, floyd always ends up the victor. he always wins. hmmm. sounds to me that well, all of the doubters have been proven wrong. we'll just have to wait and see them get proved wrong again come may 5th, because i posted it before and i will right now, floyd is going to destroy oscar de la hoya. just watch. and when it does happen, i don't see any posts with excuses for oscar, because just like with baldomir and gatti, i read so many excuses that i almost started to copy and paste them and send them off to baldomir and gatti themselves so they could read them and come on tv and publicy announce to the world that boxing forums are filled with a bunch of contradicting people who wouldn't know boxing if they were born inside a joe frazier gym and got their umbilical cord cut by ali while ray leonard filmed it. now, maybe i'm getting a little ahead of myself, but doesn't matter, come may 5th 2007, the boxing world from the critcs to the fans to oscar himself with floyd mayweather sr. will see a brilliant masterpiece of a performance from floyd maweater jr. i'm telling you right now internet junkiesm floyd is going to destroy oscar de la hoya, and when it happen i am going to laugh in a very valitile way ay every one of you who downtype floyd. so get ready now. pbftxrs316 signing off.
mayweather wants to scream to anyone that'll listen that he can beat them but as soon as boxing fans show other wise that he cant ...he dosnt lose ground because he can always send out his collective band of fan boys to point out that little floyd mayweather couldnt possibley fight at that weight
well you little fan boys need to either find a new undeafeated hero or tell your boy that he needs to stop hollaring that hes the greatest and could beat anybody
Leonard was a natural welterweight moving up to middle.
Floyd is a natural super featherweight fighting at jr middleweight.
The situations are just not comparable.
The discussion with Ray was in terms of quality of opposition.
I agree with the weight disparity you refer to. I concede.
Both men same weight: Ray is better.
Floyd is a genuis. But Margarito is no Hearns. And Floyd embarrasingly avoided Margarito.
Ray fought lanky hearns, and compact basher Hagler. Win, win.
Floyd: lose, lose.
Floyd is crazy and DISRESPECTFUL to state Leonard's lack of impact in any era.
I mean, come on..
That's my point. Could Mayweather beat Hagler? Ray did.
People are doubtful PBF can beat De La Hoya.. At jr. MIDDLEWEIGHT.
Floyd is slick, and my heart will be with him when he plays roullete with Oscars left hook. I hope Floyd doesn't get hurt, honestly.
I hope you realize it will only take one. Just one.
Leonard was a natural welterweight moving up to middle.
Floyd is a natural super featherweight fighting at jr middleweight.
The situations are just not comparable.
Hagler was a MIDDLEWEIGHT.
Floyd started out at 130 and was at his best at 135 and maybe 140.
I dont think Leonard or Hearns would knock Floyd out, Floyd is slick, fast and has great defense.
That's my point. Could Mayweather beat Hagler? Ray did.
People are doubtful PBF can beat De La Hoya.. At jr. MIDDLEWEIGHT.
Floyd is slick, and my heart will be with him when he plays roullete with Oscars left hook. I hope Floyd doesn't get hurt, honestly.
I hope you realize it will only take one. Just one.