I am NOT a Floyd Mayweather fan..

you've got a guy standing on top of a podium screaming to anyone with in ears range that hes the best all time and what not ... then he goes and fights the likes of baldimer? .. the best people on his resume are corrales and castillio ... he needs a father vs son or a bad blood friendship angle to sell even a modest amount of tickets ... oh yeah ... im suposed to respect this guy pfffft bring me miguel cotto .. someone who actually fights and dosnt have to cry wear 500 pounds of wasted jewles to come acrossed as a good fighter

]i dont wanna piss on your bonfire here but floyd was never the top man at 140! corley, brussels and gatti dont mean shit when hatton was no1 and cotto was no2 in the division. theres no doubt floyd was amazing at 130 and 135 when he beat n'dou sosa castillo twice chavez carlos hernandez corrales augustus goyo vargas gerena juuko rios manfredy and genaro hernandez. he is now the linear champ at 147 beating a shot mitchell judah and baldomir. but he can never say he was the top man at 140 thats just fact!! Ok, piss on the bonfire just dont piss on my leg and tell me its raining. Its documented from Hatton's own camp that they needed 2-3 tune-ups before Mayweather. Cotto while probably the other top 140lber was/is still managed by a team who are advancing him a measured pace against tuff contenders just short of elite. What makes you think they would've thrown there dog in there Mayweather at that particular time in Cotto's career. Look at how Cotto's been managed and you can see that its almost laughable.

as soon as mayweather fights someone and stops blubbering like a little girl he might get some respect

hey no offense but you're gay Yeah thats about what I expect from you.... :nonono:

i was thinking of changing my name to "iwantfloyd'scockinmymouth77" I think more than 76 people here have beat you to that name.

i dont wanna piss on your bonfire here but floyd was never the top man at 140! corley, brussels and gatti dont mean shit when hatton was no1 and cotto was no2 in the division. theres no doubt floyd was amazing at 130 and 135 when he beat n'dou sosa castillo twice chavez carlos hernandez corrales augustus goyo vargas gerena juuko rios manfredy and genaro hernandez. he is now the linear champ at 147 beating a shot mitchell judah and baldomir. but he can never say he was the top man at 140 thats just fact!! waits for the hatton and cotto ducked mayweather posts

He beat Morales twice, the 3rd time becaue Morales is a shot fighter, stopped Barrera in 03 and Decisioned Larios coming off a loss moving up 2 weight divisions. Good, but not close to Floyd, who has been at the top of every division since 130. i dont wanna piss on your bonfire here but floyd was never the top man at 140! corley, brussels and gatti dont mean shit when hatton was no1 and cotto was no2 in the division. theres no doubt floyd was amazing at 130 and 135 when he beat n'dou sosa castillo twice chavez carlos hernandez corrales augustus goyo vargas gerena juuko rios manfredy and genaro hernandez. he is now the linear champ at 147 beating a shot mitchell judah and baldomir. but he can never say he was the top man at 140 thats just fact!!

SO what!!? Why does that UPSET so many people? Why does that make me Hater? WHY do Floyd fans act like I have insulted them? WHY is it so important to Floyd fans.. That everybody SHARE their veiws..? WHY are there at least 12 Floyd threads started a day.. And if you dont join the CIRCLE jerk.. You are insulted PERSONALY.. Does the P4P king need these people fighting his battles? WHy do Floyd fans find it so impossibly difficult to understand.. That some poeple dont like Floyd? Do Floyd fans ever think about anything else? Why would anyone support a rich guy who acts gangster Why would you give your undying support to a selfish ego maniac who .. would prolly let you drown instead of getting his clothes wet..??? Why dont you just go join a Floyd Mayweather forum where you wont meet opposition or have to listen to people insult your messiah? Dont you realise this site is called "BOXING" scene? That means its NOT Floyd 24/7 Dont You realise that because its called a BOXING site.. it will attract REAL boxing fans.. NOT just FAN BOYS? Floyd fans are the worst haters of all. OH and Manny Pacquiao is P4P number 1 hey no offense but you're gay

And what has been personal about my argument?

Not even close? You're kidding yourself. Your arguments lately have become a lot less rational and a lot more personal to make up for the lack of coherency. Pac beat Morales 3 times, smashed Barrera, and beat up Larios...all of who were/are top 5 in their division. Beating Morales 3 times (faded or not) is arguably a good bit better than beating Baldomir just once. You say 'welterweight linear championship' as if that's the end-all when it clearly is not. He beat Morales twice, the 3rd time becaue Morales is a shot fighter, stopped Barrera in 03 and Decisioned Larios coming off a loss moving up 2 weight divisions. Good, but not close to Floyd, who has been at the top of every division since 130.

PBF34, you really should change your username. You're possibly talking sense, but it's difficult to take it seriously when you're defending Floyd with that name. I know, any ideas?

Not even close? You're kidding yourself. Your arguments lately have become a lot less rational and a lot more personal to make up for the lack of coherency. Pac beat Morales 3 times, smashed Barrera, and beat up Larios...all of who were/are top 5 in their division. Beating Morales 3 times (faded or not) is arguably a good bit better than beating Baldomir just once. You say 'welterweight linear championship' as if that's the end-all when it clearly is not. He beat Morales twice not 3 times. I still have PBF as the best p4p fighter because he is just that. I cant picture Pac-man going up in weight and fighting top guys at 140 and 135lbs which is comparable to what PBF is currently doing. Really what would've happend if Castillo or Corrales were still able to make 135lbs and they fought Pacman? Not to mention the 140lb guys. PBF goes up in weight because its where the money is at and he has the talent and skill to compete at that level. I like watching Pac-man and have him at #2 p4p but really its clearly PBF at #1.

SO what!!? Why does that UPSET so many people? Why does that make me Hater? WHY do Floyd fans act like I have insulted them? WHY is it so important to Floyd fans.. That everybody SHARE their veiws..? WHY are there at least 12 Floyd threads started a day.. And if you dont join the CIRCLE jerk.. You are insulted PERSONALY.. Does the P4P king need these people fighting his battles? WHy do Floyd fans find it so impossibly difficult to understand.. That some poeple dont like Floyd? Do Floyd fans ever think about anything else? Why would anyone support a rich guy who acts gangster Why would you give your undying support to a selfish ego maniac who .. would prolly let you drown instead of getting his clothes wet..??? Why dont you just go join a Floyd Mayweather forum where you wont meet opposition or have to listen to people insult your messiah? Dont you realise this site is called "BOXING" scene? That means its NOT Floyd 24/7 Dont You realise that because its called a BOXING site.. it will attract REAL boxing fans.. NOT just FAN BOYS? Floyd fans are the worst haters of all. OH and Manny Pacquiao is P4P number 1 very well said, hater :D..... i'm just kidding man.... Floyd is the best boxer (no. 1 p4p) in the world today... but also he is an asshole and an arrogant prick... which makes it harder for him to be liked....

Its not even close. Floyd has accomplished alot more in his career and is still at the peak of the sport wininng titles at higher and higher weights. A win over a clearly faded and spend Erik Morales is no bounds from jumping from 2 or 3 to 1, espicially seeing as Floyd absolutly outclassed the welterweight linear championship. Not even close? You're kidding yourself. Your arguments lately have become a lot less rational and a lot more personal to make up for the lack of coherency. Pac beat Morales 3 times, smashed Barrera, and beat up Larios...all of who were/are top 5 in their division. Beating Morales 3 times (faded or not) is arguably a good bit better than beating Baldomir just once. You say 'welterweight linear championship' as if that's the end-all when it clearly is not.

PBF34, you really should change your username. You're possibly talking sense, but it's difficult to take it seriously when you're defending Floyd with that name.so what's in a name? your comments are irrelevant. you can't make up facts, which a lot of us give. we give facts when we post comments on floyd as well as opinion.

But thats where YOU are wrong... My personal feelings will not cloud my judgement of Floyds skills.. Without a doubt.. he is the best ACTIVE boxer alive today.. His performances are dominant and often flawless.. there is absolutely nothing wrong with Floyd mayweather the BOXER.. His Character flaws are what make me not be fan.. regardless of how good he is.. Its hard to root for the asshole.. But I have respect for his skills..then leave it at that. nothing else needs to really be argued from you. and, for the poster who commented that he or she doesn't repsect or take guys on this forum seriously who had some type of floyd's name or nickname as their username, that is irrevelant to say the least. who cares what username people have on hear. it doesn't take away the quality of arguments defending floyd. welter, you need to realize that floyd mayweather's personal life is his own, and need to leave it alone like many others on here. when kids watch floyd and aspire to be like him, hopefully most of the time they want to be like floyd mayweather, the boxer, not the mayweather outside the ring. is he cocky? hell yeah, but who cares if he gets the job done in the ring. is he disrespectful? he can be and has been for years now, but who cares. his private life is his private life and nobody's business. this is boxing, not the maury show. i am a huge fan of floyd mayweather jr. because i respect his fight game, that's it. whatever problems he has with his father, then let them hash it out, and if he disrespects his father in your eyes, then close them and leave it at that. you, me, and nobody else in this forum is in any position to judge floyd's life personally. professionally, we can judge his performances in the ring. i feel that floyd does not try to be a role model, and who cares. if you love boxing, then focus on boxing. too many times people shy away from what celebrities accomplish on film, television , and sports and foucs on their private life. floyd is no angel, but when he fights, he puts on sensational performances, and that's what matters to me in the end, nothing else he does bothers me. i'll never take anything away from you and your arguments on him, because you're entitled to your opinion and that's that. but, many of you on here lose the task at hand, talking about boxing. this is a boxing forum, not what floyd does on the outside forum. floyd's fans will defend him, because he is a human just like the rest of us, and he has, does, and probably will fuck up again in the future. as long as he's representing in the ring, i could give a damn about whta he does in his personal life. let's stick to boxing. many of us don't know what's going on between floyd and his father, so let's not speculate.

if he was the best active boxer alive would he not be p4p number 1? No.. to me the P4P list is a "What have you done for me lately?" kind of thing.. being the best means more than just talent.. its true in every sport.. heart and hard work.. can overcome skill.. fearlesness and courage define champions.. not paydays...

What a laugh. Putting Manny above Floyd is a perfectly legit and sane case to make, and that case can and has been made by several posters on justifiable grounds. You are of no importance or stature to say that only biased, irrational fans pick manny as P4P number one. Its not even close. Floyd has accomplished alot more in his career and is still at the peak of the sport wininng titles at higher and higher weights. A win over a clearly faded and spend Erik Morales is no bounds from jumping from 2 or 3 to 1, espicially seeing as Floyd absolutly outclassed the welterweight linear championship.

But thats where YOU are wrong... My personal feelings will not cloud my judgement of Floyds skills.. Without a doubt.. he is the best ACTIVE boxer alive today.. His performances are dominant and often flawless.. there is absolutely nothing wrong with Floyd mayweather the BOXER.. His Character flaws are what make me not be fan.. regardless of how good he is.. Its hard to root for the asshole.. But I have respect for his skills.. if he was the best active boxer alive would he not be p4p number 1?

For a rational, unbiased fan, MAnny Pac has no case at being p4p number 1. What a laugh. Putting Manny above Floyd is a perfectly legit and sane case to make, and that case can and has been made by several posters on justifiable grounds. You are of no importance or stature to say that only biased, irrational fans pick manny as P4P number one.