Than WTF would anyone include and active fighter, Wlad, who I think is not even in his prime yet... give him another 1-2 years, with legendary fighters :nonono:
There was only one way to interpret this thread.. which is who would whoop ass!
Greatness is defined by who would beat who? In that case I'd favor Lennox Lewis against 99.9% of all heavyweight boxers of all time. I'd only favor possibly Ali, possibly Frazier, and probably Foreman to beat him.
Former heavyweights are too small compared to current HW fighters.
greatness as i would define it in boxing leads me to say dempsey, i favor him over marciano.. and if i look at dempsey as the greatest then i also have to give tunney as much or more "props" than marciano...
but most people are answering this question like were asking about fantasy fights... who would beat who in a superfighter tournament so to say?
as some people have pointed out i dont think that its relavent for a lot of reasons who would beat who cause look at it like this.
wladamir klitschko (how is he named and not vitali in the poll?) would get knocked out by dempsey IMO, but i also believe that wladamir would easily defeat tunney... but wladamir is no means as "great" as tunney by any definition.
i think vitali could beat them all 7 out of ten times... but he never did anything to define himself as "great" as many other past fighters did
You have to go by careers, not who would win in a fight...although I am not really sure what the poll was fully about, but oh well, I can still see Dempsey as being higher.
I wouldn't vote for Tunney, great fighter, but he gets attention because he beat a past his prime, out of the ring to long, Jack Dempsey.
Than WTF would anyone include and active fighter, Wlad, who I think is not even in his prime yet... give him another 1-2 years, with legendary fighters :nonono:
There was only one way to interpret this thread.. which is who would whoop ass!
Bud, no offense; but there's a great possibility that Noah was the same man as Gilgamesh of Babylonian lore....and an even greater possibility (practically a scientific certainty) that the "whole world" was never flooded/aka covered in water.
Odds are a portion of land near the Black Sea flooded really bad when a natural earth dam collapsed around the time period this story happened, killing many people and inspiring those stories to be written.
There is no geographical evidence that the whole earth flooded.
Yes, they most likely mixed/borrowed/stole stories...even the Moses story was taken from another story. Jesus, the same...Sampson, try Hercules...even Hercules sounds like the "Epic of Gilgamesh"
Although, stories/events do tend to repeat themselves...Ex: Atilla the Hun, later on Genghis Kahn....Alexander the Great, Napoleon....same goes for inventing/re-inventing: technology will be lost, then rediscovered by some Scientist/Inventor who questions and wants to make something better, or a Need for something.
But the fact is people do steal sotries and use them as their own. Just take the Blond hair, Blue eye, White colored JESUS...Or maybe he was, I don't know, I never met the man, so I can stand corrected...maybe he was a distant traveler from another land, or maybe he just didn't exist.
I state this again....
is the poll for who is the best in terms of who wins....
or does it ask who has accomplished the most during their time?
In terms of in ring fight... I just don't see the 5'10 5'11 fighters beating the Klitschko borthers...
You have to go by careers, not who would win in a fight...although I am not really sure what the poll was fully about, but oh well, I can still see Dempsey as being higher.
I wouldn't vote for Tunney, great fighter, but he gets attention because he beat a past his prime, out of the ring to long, Jack Dempsey.
Seeing guys so firmy attached to nuts that they'd actually vote for Klitschko doesn't anger me, it amuses me.
Guys just like you see his name on a poll and they are so excited they just vote for the sake of it without even reading the question.
Greatest never means who would beat who. Different eras are not comparable.
Thus, anyone voting for Wlad is a joke. It's a shame his name is even listed next to Dempsey and Marciano, nevermind the sisterhood club actually voting for him. :nonono:
You can't vote for Wlad in my opinion, not now, but I think people are seeing if they would of fought eachother, which one was better, but you can't do that really because we are considering careers, not fantasy matchups.
Seriously, you people need to be shot that voted for Marciano over Dempsey.
It's hard to vote for Wlad at this point, especially since he has been stopped a few times, although two of them were from exhausting himself.
I am not saying Wlad wouldn't beat Marciano or Dempsey, although I actually have my doubts about beating Dempsey since Corrie Sanders blitzed Wlad just like Dempsey would do.
I'll see in the future how much Emanuel was really able to change when I see someone try to blitz him again.
Aren't you still on probation? :bottle:
I know just the thought of seeing the Klitschko name next to like you said legendary fighters must be driving you crazy...
If you are so desparatly trying to find out.... I haven't votes yet as I am trying to get a clear answer to my question..
What do we mean by greatest?
If accomplishemnt in their time, I would go for Marciano...
In terms of fight in the ring... I see any Klitschko beating him...
Simple heh...
Seeing guys so firmy attached to nuts that they'd actually vote for Klitschko doesn't anger me, it amuses me.
Guys just like you see his name on a poll and they are so excited they just vote for the sake of it without even reading the question.
Greatest never means who would beat who. Different eras are not comparable.
Thus, anyone voting for Wlad is a joke. It's a shame his name is even listed next to Dempsey and Marciano, nevermind the sisterhood club actually voting for him. :nonono:
Well that makes a bit of sense however.......Rocky would KO Wlad with a body shot or 10.VK is better than WK anyway and he is not even on the list.I really don't give a shit anyway because white HWs just are'nt my thing.
LOL I know.. I notices that a long time ago
As usual, you're trying to twist things into a position where you can justify nut hugging.
We have legendary hall of fame fighters, and we have clowns voting for Klitschko.
Yes or no: Are you one of the current 6 votes for Wlad?
Aren't you still on probation? :bottle:
I know just the thought of seeing the Klitschko name next to like you said legendary fighters must be driving you crazy...
If you are so desparatly trying to find out.... I haven't votes yet as I am trying to get a clear answer to my question..
What do we mean by greatest?
If accomplishemnt in their time, I would go for Marciano...
In terms of fight in the ring... I see any Klitschko beating him...
Simple heh...
I state this again....
is the poll for who is the best in terms of who wins....
or does it ask who has accomplished the most during their time?
In terms of in ring fight... I just don't see the 5'10 5'11 fighters beating the Klitschko borthers...
Well that makes a bit of sense however.......Rocky would KO Wlad with a body shot or 10.VK is better than WK anyway and he is not even on the list.I really don't give a shit anyway because white HWs just are'nt my thing.
I state this again....
is the poll for who is the best in terms of who wins....
or does it ask who has accomplished the most during their time?
In terms of in ring fight... I just don't see the 5'10 5'11 fighters beating the Klitschko borthers...
As usual, you're trying to twist things into a position where you can justify nut hugging.
We have legendary hall of fame fighters, and we have clowns voting for Klitschko.
Yes or no: Are you one of the current 6 votes for Wlad?
I would say Rocky or Dempsy.......LOL at those who picked Wlad.
I state this again....
is the poll for who is the best in terms of who wins....
or does it ask who has accomplished the most during their time?
In terms of in ring fight... I just don't see the 5'10 5'11 fighters beating the Klitschko borthers...
I didn't snitch nothing..
The crime was not the ban
The crime was the behavior
Your are typical of your generation.. Nothing is ever your own fault..
Seems the mods thought differently
back on subject
I voted Klitschko... You wont be able to convince me otherwise..
How are those Tiger satin sheets doing?
Funny words coming from you, who went out of your way to stray from the topic of the Toney thread just to flame.
Your vote for Klischko over all time great fighters is a joke.
No suprize it's followed up by subject changing flaming.
If that were true, I'd point out what a joke that is.
Did I enjoy you snitching on me like a little rat? Sure.
Nice to see your Hobbs tatoo is gone. Good move taking your ass out of your profile.
I didn't snitch nothing..
The crime was not the ban
The crime was the behavior
Your are typical of your generation.. Nothing is ever your own fault..
Seems the mods thought differently
back on subject
I voted Klitschko... You wont be able to convince me otherwise..
How are those Tiger satin sheets doing?
I voted Klitschko.. What ya gonna do about it.. insult me? LOL like what you think matters.. OH BTW enjoy your little holiday? I sure did :p
If that were true, I'd point out what a joke that is.
Did I enjoy you snitching on me like a little rat? Sure.
Nice to see your Hobbs tatoo is gone. Good move taking your ass out of your profile.