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The Greatest Martial Artist of All Time
By Arnold Chao
Mon, November 27, 2006, 12:01 am PST
"Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water." - Bruce Lee (1940-1973)
Today marks the birth of legendary Chinese-American icon Bruce Lee. Known as a lean, mean fighting machine who single-handedly popularized the martial arts movie genre, Lee also revolutionized fight choreography in film with his lightning-fast kicks and mastery of the nunchucks. But he was more than a movie star. Lee was also a philosophical and innovative martial artist with an original approach to traditional martial art styles. He fought against Chinese tradition by teaching Kung Fu to Westerners, and trained with champions from a variety of fighting systems. This cultural mix led to the invention of his own martial art, Jeet Kune Do, in which Lee embraced the philosophical idea of "being like water." By mimicking the flexibility of water, he avoided set forms and fluidly adapted the most effective elements of as many fighting techniques as possible -- an inspiration to modern mixed martial arts. This, in combination with his extraordinary physical feats and killer physique, inspired many fans to label Bruce Lee as "the greatest martial artist of all time."
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Greatest martial artist? Who'd he ever fight that counted for anything?
Martial arts is a craft a skill a way of life you do not have to fight in order to be a martial artist you just need to know how to fight Bruce Lee was first trained in wing chun which has rules against fighting just for sport . Martial arts is almost like a religion so if your master says you can't fight for sport YOU DON'T. If he would have fought it would have been very much a dishonor to himself and eveyone who came before him . He did break some rules by teaching the arts outside of china but there were others at the time doing the same he just took the brunt of the hate because he was the most public about it .
You make an excellent point, Knives. I'd like to expand on it by reminding people of the old adage that no matter how ________ you are (whatever that happens to be), there is someone who is more _________.
In other words, I'm willing to bet that at any given moment,there are any number of little old asian dudes that have more knoweledge and ability in one finger than Bruce would have ever had.
People like Masaaki Hatsumi (Ninjutsu), Jhoon Rhee (Tae Kwon Do), Boneco (Capoeira), Morihei Uyeshiba (Aikido), Hee Il Cho (Tae Kwon Do), and many others immediately come to mind. And these are just the people we KNOW about. Imagine how many buddhist monks, Shaolin or otherwise there must be out there who do NOTHING but meditate on Buddha's teachings and try to perfect their martial arts abilities as a way to achieve enlightenment.
Bruce was by no means, even close to being the greatest martial artist there ever was.
But that's just my opinion.
Yes but they did only one art Bruce was doing things that no one in China had ever seen. He may not have been the best at any one art or the best fighter ever but he was far ahead of his time and the first to cross train in martial arts.
Oh but that's right. All Lee has to do is touch you and you die. Yawn.
You make an excellent point, Knives. I'd like to expand on it by reminding people of the old adage that no matter how ________ you are (whatever that happens to be), there is someone who is more _________.
In other words, I'm willing to bet that at any given moment,there are any number of little old asian dudes that have more knoweledge and ability in one finger than Bruce would have ever had.
People like Masaaki Hatsumi (Ninjutsu), Jhoon Rhee (Tae Kwon Do), Boneco (Capoeira), Morihei Uyeshiba (Aikido), Hee Il Cho (Tae Kwon Do), and many others immediately come to mind. And these are just the people we KNOW about. Imagine how many buddhist monks, Shaolin or otherwise there must be out there who do NOTHING but meditate on Buddha's teachings and try to perfect their martial arts abilities as a way to achieve enlightenment.
Bruce was by no means, even close to being the greatest martial artist there ever was.
But that's just my opinion.
None.
There's a couple of pretty interesting things that he did that I give him credit for......Weapons use and forms perhaps.
But we're talking actual Martial Arts.
This is like a guy who's never worked on a car his entire life....but studies to be a mechanic and becomes pretty knowledgeable. How is anyone going to know this outside of reading his books if he never works on a car?
It's ridiculous. I think if you're going to call him a Guru then leave it at that. Lets not talk about how deadly he is because that just makes me laugh.
Lee isn't really all that well know for his use of weapons he used the nunchuka more for films. That's not to say he wasn't skilled but his main objective was to be the best street fighter he could be not the traditional chinese opera type martial artist that use outlandish weapons and set moves .
im talking about proof yes, because people claim he is the greatest martial artist off all time, and know ive not been shown any evidence on his scocalled competition.
None.
There's a couple of pretty interesting things that he did that I give him credit for......Weapons use and forms perhaps.
But we're talking actual Martial Arts.
This is like a guy who's never worked on a car his entire life....but studies to be a mechanic and becomes pretty knowledgeable. How is anyone going to know this outside of reading his books if he never works on a car?
It's ridiculous. I think if you're going to call him a Guru then leave it at that. Lets not talk about how deadly he is because that just makes me laugh.
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REALLY? wow i wonder what he likes about seattle? maybe the RAIN gave him his super powers then? ahahha LOL
Could be' buddhist have strong beliefs in the power of the elements.
Bruce Lee spent some time in Seattle and when he was alive he told his wife how much he liked the placed and enjoyed life there or something like that. I dont think he said he wanted to be buried there, because noone knew he was going to die suddenly. He might not have wanted to be buried there for all we know.
But his wife Linda Lee imagined he wanted to be there after his death.
Awards and honours
Bruce Lee statue in Hong KongWith his ancestral roots coming from Gwan'on in Seundak, Guangdong province of China (广东顺德均安, Guangdong Shunde Jun'An), a street in the village is named after him where his ancestral home is situated. The home is open for public access.
Bruce Lee was named TIME Magazine 's 100 Most Important People of the Century and as one of the greatest heroes & icons and among the influential martial artists of the 20th century.
The 1993 film Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story is a fictionalized biographical film about Bruce Lee.
On July 21, 2003, to his 30th year of death, "Things Asian" published an article: Lee´s Legend remains strong 30 years after his death and in the process establish his place in martial arts as "the greatest martial artist of all time"
In 2004, UFC president Dana White credited Bruce Lee as the "father of mixed martial arts".
In September 2004, a a BBC story stated that the Bosnian city of Mostar was to honor Lee with a statue on the Spanish Square, as a symbol of solidarity. After many years of war and religious splits, Lee's figure is to commend his work: to successfully bridge culture gaps in the world. The statue, placed in the city park, was unveiled on November 26, 2005 (One day before the unveiling of the statue in Hong Kong, below).
In 2005, Lee was remembered in Hong Kong with a bronze statue to mark his sixty-fifth birthday. The bronze statue, unveiled on November 27, 2005, honored Lee as Chinese film's bright star of the century.
Lee has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame in the category Motion Picture, at 6933 Hollywood Blvd
On November 27, 2006, it was announced that Bruce Lee will get his own theme park that will be located in his Chinese ancestral home of Shunde. It will contain a statue, memorial hall, martial arts academy, and conference center. Actress Betty Ting Pei donated a set of nunchucks that Lee once used.
~Wikipedia:nutkick:
I've always been here for you Leff, and have tried to explain things to you to my best ability but you seem to have a problem of working things out within yourself sometimes. Great tournament fighters and martial artists are the ones saying he is the greatest martial artist of all time. That is their opinion and you cant do anything about that, apart from threatening them not to be so honest and you'll kill them for saying it! If you had met Bruce you would more than likely say the same things as these guys. Unless you can prove to me that you would think otherwise, this discussion cannot be taken any further.
I made the educated guess comment that Leff hates Bruce Lee. He can say he doesnt hate Bruce Lee but i am not so sure anyone would believe him now. Its past that stage.
As for throwing darts at a Bruce Lee poster, i am sure some people are doing that here . In fact they probably have a Bruce doll and stick pins in it. No disrepect Leff.
as ive stated before i dont think quotes qualify as proof.
and no i dont hate ( i actually have one off his films) lee, but if you dont believe me, ok than you dont
im talking about proof yes, because people claim he is the greatest martial artist off all time, and know ive not been shown any evidence on his scocalled competition.
I've always been here for you Leff, and have tried to explain things to you to my best ability but you seem to have a problem of working things out within yourself sometimes. Great tournament fighters and martial artists are the ones saying he is the greatest martial artist of all time. That is their opinion and you cant do anything about that, apart from threatening them not to be so honest and you'll kill them for saying it! If you had met Bruce you would more than likely say the same things as these guys. Unless you can prove to me that you would think otherwise, this discussion cannot be taken any further.
Leff, i'm sorry, but it's guys like you who have the problem. You keep replying to the subject and constantly whining like a child who's begging his parents for a new toy. Some people are quite clearly pissed off with this subject, wheather it be pro Bruce Lee or against him. The educated guess comment was a good one, I forget who made it.
Lets just agree to disagree. Maybe some of the people who are pissed off can let go of some of their anger by throwing some darts at a bruce Lee poster, if it helps? lol
I made the educated guess comment that Leff hates Bruce Lee. He can say he doesnt hate Bruce Lee but i am not so sure anyone would believe him now. Its past that stage.
As for throwing darts at a Bruce Lee poster, i am sure some people are doing that here . In fact they probably have a Bruce doll and stick pins in it. No disrepect Leff.
Like I said before, it's an opinion, & an opinion can based on the most illogical & irrational reasons, & you could waste all your breath & still wouldn't convince most people otherwise. Just respect the man who accomplished more in his life then you could ever dream & let it go
No, but you also don't have any solid evidence stating that he didn't fight either.
You're probably one of the dumbest people I've seen on here.
Not having evidence of him fighting is in fact evidence of him not actually fighting in anykind of sanctioned bout.
Leff, i'm sorry, but it's guys like you who have the problem. You keep replying to the subject and constantly whining like a child who's begging his parents for a new toy. Some people are quite clearly pissed off with this subject, wheather it be pro Bruce Lee or against him. The educated guess comment was a good one, I forget who made it.
Lets just agree to disagree. Maybe some of the people who are pissed off can let go of some of their anger by throwing some darts at a bruce Lee poster, if it helps? lol
im enoyed cause bruce has made many believe so much bullshit is useful and because so many belive he is the greatest whan someone else most likely deserves it more than him.