Forget about Hamed being six or seven years past his best, other than flashes of his old self in the Badillo fight, and the fact that he'd fallen out of love with boxing in 1998.
The formula Barrera used was letting go the left hook whenever Naz backed away, going to the body selectively to drain Hamed's power counters and the need to move away from Hamed's power by going to the left all night. Thus, by keeping to a controlled, straight-punching discipline, Barrera was able to nullify Hamed's wide punches, a formula, which also acted as a defensive guard position at the same time.
Barrera had never fought like this previously, so what it did was throw Hamed off. Remember, Barrera was always saying in the build-up to the fight how he'd be coming at Hamed like a train to throw him off that way and that's exactly what Hamed expected.
Clearly, Hamed had expected the Barrera-express ala Barrera-Morales and, when that train failed to materialise, there was no definitive fall-back plan. To make matters worse, he'd go back to the corner one round and be told something from Suarez then go back to the corner the next round and be told something totally different from Steward, all the while disagreeing with them, disobeying them, and generally not knowing what the fuck he was doing - while getting punched, embarassed, frustrated, angry, and thus missing wildly and being schooled all the more.
It's as simple as that.
I think he was on the slide when he fought Barrera but no where near 6 years past his prime! To be fair Dogg u missed him at his best then, all be it against sub par oppisition, so fast and acurate!
Yeah, I've heard that from more than one Britt. My impressions of him against Kelley was that he was wild and off balance and a true dyed in the wool boxer could exploit him. I honestly never expected Barrera to do it though....not the way he did.
The only thing he said in that post that I don't agree with was Hamed being "6 or 7 years past his best. He was in his physical prime; but, admittedly, I wasn't that familiar with him prior to the Kelley fight.
I think he was on the slide when he fought Barrera but no where near 6 years past his prime! To be fair Dogg u missed him at his best then, all be it against sub par oppisition, so fast and acurate!
Nah man im not sayin he dont, when it comes to Brits this guy is a king of knowledge even if his patriosim sumtimes borders on bias!
The only thing he said in that post that I don't agree with was Hamed being "6 or 7 years past his best. He was in his physical prime; but, admittedly, I wasn't that familiar with him prior to the Kelley fight.
Forget about Hamed being six or seven years past his best, other than flashes of his old self in the Badillo fight, and the fact that he'd fallen out of love with boxing in 1998......
what the fuck !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
you're a joke.
:bottle:
Hamed on his best day, cannot compete with Marco Antonio
:lol1: Geoff, you know your stuff, end of story! :fing02:
I don't care what everybody else says about you. ;)
Nah man im not sayin he dont, when it comes to Brits this guy is a king of knowledge even if his patriosim sumtimes borders on bias!
Forget about Hamed being six or seven years past his best, other than flashes of his old self in the Badillo fight, and the fact that he'd fallen out of love with boxing in 1998.
The formula Barrera used was letting go the left hook whenever Naz backed away, going to the body selectively to drain Hamed's power counters and the need to move away from Hamed's power by going to the left all night. Thus, by keeping to a controlled, straight-punching discipline, Barrera was able to nullify Hamed's wide punches, a formula, which also acted as a defensive guard position at the same time.
Barrera had never fought like this previously, so what it did was throw Hamed off. Remember, Barrera was always saying in the build-up to the fight how he'd be coming at Hamed like a train to throw him off that way and that's exactly what Hamed expected.
Clearly, Hamed had expected the Barrera-express ala Barrera-Morales and, when that train failed to materialise, there was no definitive fall-back plan. To make matters worse, he'd go back to the corner one round and be told something from Suarez then go back to the corner the next round and be told something totally different from Steward, all the while disagreeing with them, disobeying them, and generally not knowing what the fuck he was doing - while getting punched, embarassed, frustrated, angry, and thus missing wildly and being schooled all the more.
It's as simple as that.
:lol1: Geoff, you know your stuff, end of story! :fing02:
I don't care what everybody else says about you. ;)
Forget about Hamed being six or seven years past his best, other than flashes of his old self in the Badillo fight, and the fact that he'd fallen out of love with boxing in 1998.
The formula Barrera used was letting go the left hook whenever Naz backed away, going to the body selectively to drain Hamed's power counters and the need to move away from Hamed's power by going to the left all night. Thus, by keeping to a controlled, straight-punching discipline, Barrera was able to nullify Hamed's wide punches, a formula, which also acted as a defensive guard position at the same time.
Barrera had never fought like this previously, so what it did was throw Hamed off. Remember, Barrera was always saying in the build-up to the fight how he'd be coming at Hamed like a train to throw him off that way and that's exactly what Hamed expected.
Clearly, Hamed had expected the Barrera-express ala Barrera-Morales and, when that train failed to materialise, there was no definitive fall-back plan. To make matters worse, he'd go back to the corner one round and be told something from Suarez then go back to the corner the next round and be told something totally different from Steward, all the while disagreeing with them, disobeying them, and generally not knowing what the fuck he was doing - while getting punched, embarassed, frustrated, angry, and thus missing wildly and being schooled all the more.
It's as simple as that.
Yawn.
Please.
Forget about Hamed being six or seven years past his best, other than flashes of his old self in the Badillo fight, and the fact that he'd fallen out of love with boxing in 1998.
The formula Barrera used was letting go the left hook whenever Naz backed away, going to the body selectively to drain Hamed's power counters and the need to move away from Hamed's power by going to the left all night. Thus, by keeping to a controlled, straight-punching discipline, Barrera was able to nullify Hamed's wide punches, a formula, which also acted as a defensive guard position at the same time.
Barrera had never fought like this previously, so what it did was throw Hamed off. Remember, Barrera was always saying in the build-up to the fight how he'd be coming at Hamed like a train to throw him off that way and that's exactly what Hamed expected.
Clearly, Hamed had expected the Barrera-express ala Barrera-Morales and, when that train failed to materialise, there was no definitive fall-back plan. To make matters worse, he'd go back to the corner one round and be told something from Suarez then go back to the corner the next round and be told something totally different from Steward, all the while disagreeing with them, disobeying them, and generally not knowing what the fuck he was doing - while getting punched, embarassed, frustrated, angry, and thus missing wildly and being schooled all the more.
It's as simple as that.
Naz was beat before he got in the ring, I watched a documentery on his build up to the fight it was a joke! U dont beat Barrera by going for long walks and pondering life! Naz was in decline as a fighter, Marco fooled him in that he would bum rush him but boxed and was basically a better fighter thats why Naz lost. I miss the guy but he deserved his loss! Tell u what tho he took it like a man, something most thought he wouldnt!
i felt sooooo good when hamed got his ass beat.
Did he have many fans? i really dont know how u could like that guy. He wasnt that "LIKEABLE cocky guy", he was a very "UNLIKABLE cocky guy".
Hamed had more fans than you think.
Not sure how a person could hate someone that brought so much to the ring, he wasn't just an ordinary boxer, he was the next level.
He had fough a few times in the US.
None were that impressive.
I also think a fighter should be able to fight were they want. Especially if they are a champion.
If they want a big audience, then they have to fight in America.
I dont know; I thought his fight with Kevin Kelly was pretty impressive.
Also remember that barely anybody gave Barrera a hope beforehand!
I gave him Barrera a chance. Bet seven blokes in York a tenner each that Barrera would hammer him. Guess who came out smelling of roses? You douche bag...
Ian
Excellent post, man. I agree with most of what you said, however, Im sure Barrerra was quite as defensive as you say. I have the fight on my hard drive and have watched it probably six times, and what I see is a Barrerra who's willing to give and take while also being careful to avoid the bombs.
Yeah man, but usually Marco was much more aggressive than that - much, much more aggression than you see him fight these days.
Forget about Hamed being six or seven years past his best, other than flashes of his old self in the Badillo fight, and the fact that he'd fallen out of love with boxing in 1998.
The formula Barrera used was letting go the left hook whenever Naz backed away, going to the body selectively to drain Hamed's power counters and the need to move away from Hamed's power by going to the left all night. Thus, by keeping to a controlled, straight-punching discipline, Barrera was able to nullify Hamed's wide punches, a formula, which also acted as a defensive guard position at the same time.
Barrera had never fought like this previously, so what it did was throw Hamed off. Remember, Barrera was always saying in the build-up to the fight how he'd be coming at Hamed like a train to throw him off that way and that's exactly what Hamed expected.
Clearly, Hamed had expected the Barrera-express ala Barrera-Morales and, when that train failed to materialise, there was no definitive fall-back plan. To make matters worse, he'd go back to the corner one round and be told something from Suarez then go back to the corner the next round and be told something totally different from Steward, all the while disagreeing with them, disobeying them, and generally not knowing what the fuck he was doing - while getting punched, embarassed, frustrated, angry, and thus missing wildly and being schooled all the more.
It's as simple as that.
Excellent post, man. I agree with most of what you said, however, Im sure Barrerra was quite as defensive as you say. I have the fight on my hard drive and have watched it probably six times, and what I see is a Barrerra who's willing to give and take while also being careful to avoid the bombs.