Carl Froch personally told me he's the best fighter in the world

Basically all I want to say is that I really have no idea how you can rate Carl Froch up with Calzaghe or Kessler at this stage of his career. His best wins have come against Brian Magee and now Tony Dodson - hardly world class. Even Robin Reid beat Brian Magee (albeit in less impressive fashion) before getting annihilated himself at the hands of Jeff Lacy. Froch is a good domestic fighter with alot of potential. I can see him winning the European title in his next step up but I feel we won't know if he is capable of becoming a world champion for some time yet. As far as i'm concerned the prospect of him facing Calzaghe right now is ridiculous. Carl certainly does have talent but he also seems lothargic and slow-footed sometimes and his defense isn't the most solid either. I think Joe would pressure him and basically roll over him en route to a KO victory. Froch's chin is untested but i've noticed a few times he has shown the effect of taking a punch and Joe's power would be a massive step up from a fighter like Tony Dodson. At the moment I think Calzaghe, Kessler and Lacy all beat him convincingly but I would still love to see any of those fights made (particularly Calzaghe as he's knocking on) soon because in boxing you never know for sure. So yeah I just felt the need to comment as some of you seem to be getting a bit ahead of yourselves after Froch's latest win over a (in world terms) very average opponent. Picture Dodson in there against Calzaghe, Kessler or Lacy and it would surely have been a gross mismatch. Let's just wait for Carl Froch to beat a noteworthy opponent before getting carried away.

Your deluded, jealous, uninformed, or all three.

Keep it up. The jealousy is humurous. I'm merely pointing out. You simply don't have the right to make the claims you do because they defy Boxing. They're simply another fictional reality that you've created. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

do you realize why this sounds like such crap? Because it really doesn't apply to Boxing. It's more of your obscure super middleweight crap and it never ends. You picked a corner market: The british super middleweight. They're the real threat to take over boxing. I've heard it all kthanks. Keep it up. The jealousy is humurous.

I find all this Froch-hating hilarious, just because he's confident. I put it down to jealousy, like Carl does. Reminds me so much of Eubank back in the day - everybody 'thought' he was a fake, said as much, when deep down they knew he was something else. People used to say Eubank was hittable and any top fighter would KO him if he stepped up. He backed off a few times against Kid Milo after a bodyshot with a smile on his face and suddenly he couldn't take a bodyshot (apparently)! Froch's low-slung left is method, it lures opponents in and allows him to crank in the counters. Eubank's chin out to dry invited opponents to try to punch him, but he either swayed out of range or soaked it up and was then in position to hit them back. Froch will play the matador against Joe, just like Eubank did against Nigel. do you realize why this sounds like such crap? Because it really doesn't apply to Boxing. It's more of your obscure super middleweight crap and it never ends. You picked a corner market: The british super middleweight. They're the real threat to take over boxing. I've heard it all kthanks. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

any good fighter looks fantastic against soft opposition...at least froch believes in himself

I find all this Froch-hating hilarious, just because he's confident. I put it down to jealousy, like Carl does. Froch will play the matador against Joe, just like Eubank did against Nigel. No i dont hate Froch because of his confidence. I liked Hamed and he was even more arrogant than Froch. But Hamed had beat a few decent people and i believe he could beat anyone. How wrong i was! I am not sure if Froch could mess joe about. He might be able to. But i just want to see the cobra in with a few decent fights first. I dont want to see Joe in with Froch simply because i want Joe to be beating the really celebrated fighters that will get Joe his career defining fight and make him No p4p. I dont doubt that Froch could push Joe to the limit, but premature to say he is the best Supermiddle just yet.

I find all this Froch-hating hilarious, just because he's confident. I put it down to jealousy, like Carl does. Reminds me so much of Eubank back in the day - everybody 'thought' he was a fake, said as much, when deep down they knew he was something else. People used to say Eubank was hittable and any top fighter would KO him if he stepped up. He backed off a few times against Kid Milo after a bodyshot with a smile on his face and suddenly he couldn't take a bodyshot (apparently)! Froch's low-slung left is method, it lures opponents in and allows him to crank in the counters. Eubank's chin out to dry invited opponents to try to punch him, but he either swayed out of range or soaked it up and was then in position to hit them back. Froch will play the matador against Joe, just like Eubank did against Nigel.

i think froch - bute will be a great fight if it happens...both boxers need to raise their level of opposition and this match-up will do that. although if froch is to survive he really has to start using a left guard instead of just trying to snap his head back to avoid jabs. i don't understand how he can be considered to be undeserving...he's obviously above domestic british/commonwealth level, and maybe a fight against a top european fighter like Gogiya could happen if tha bute fight can't be arranged.

Froch is fine up to now Carl Froch is confident, and he believes in himself. He thinks hes good. I think hes good. I have seen enough of this boy to know hes good. Ive not looked at him and thought to myself hes so good that he is the best in the world. The people hes fought are not top notch. So i woul d like him to fight better people now. Its not worth him fighting bums anymore because we know he will win. He might be the best Supermiddleweight even above Calzaghe, but if he dont fight anyone decent how will Froch truly know, and how anyone know.

Even in the unlikely event that Froch is WAY WAY better than i give him credit for, I'd love to see him fight Bute. You don't know what you're talking about if you think Froch can beat Bute. Bute's skills are up there with Calzaghe and Kessler. He'll be a real force to be reconed with in the future. Add to that i really like his down to earth style. The guy just does his job and leaves the trash-talking to Froch and the likes. Maybe it would have done him more good (carreerwise)to be an obnoctious loudmouth. but i really like his quetly confident approach. It's like he's so good he feels he doesn't need to do all that shit. Gives me a lot more respect for him. So i'd love to see Bute take out Froch as soon as possible. But i'll be worried sick the day he is to face Kessler (speaking as a Kessler fan). That could go either way. Especially if Bute builds up a little more experience first. The thing is Froch believes everything he says, you say he is trash talking but he backs it up in the ring, he's stopped Brian Magee & Tony Dodson, in his last 2 fights which he said he would.

Uptill now i've been very much against Froch getting a shot at anyone even remotely close to the top. The guy is so full of shit. He's looked crap and doesn't deserve a shot at a title any more than at least 10-15 lesser known but more talented fighters at SMW. I haven't seen the Dodson fight. Maybe he actually looked less crap there than previously. But honestly you can't judge how good he is against someone like Dodson (who was rated no 100-and-something at SMW i believe). I had hoped Dodson would STFU Froch, but that wasn't to be. Now i have kind of mixed feelings about the top guys facing Froch. I still think he's crap and completely undeserving. No matter what if Kessler faced him it would be no better than Calzaghe facing Manfredo, Bika or Ashira (worse in fact). But on the other hand with the british media and fans starting to increasingly buy into all his BS. I think it's about time someone shut him up for good ( though i suspect nothing short of death would do the trick). I would personally forgive any of the fighters you mention for taking a too easy fight, just so we can see Froch badly beaten. In the mean time - I hope as many british fans as possible will get behind their new hero Froch. Hope they'll talk him up to be the master of the universe or whatever. Just because it will be so much more fun when he has the crap beaten out of him by any of the mentioned fighters (or anyone else - don't wanna discrimitate). To to all you brits. Worship the next "great british hope". Call him unbeatable. Go apeshit about his incredible skills. Declare him superior to any fighter to have yet walked the face of the earth. Even call him "the next Calzaghe". - Just as long as we get to see him against any half-decent fighter who'll end that dream. And i'll have a good long laugh. You're Danish: Kessler is your only half decent fighter since the days of King Cnut. I think your arrogant attitude is therefore very laughable.

saw the fight on skysports last night, good to see another midlands boy representing on the world stage... how anyone can say froch isnt world class is beyond me, and how anyone can say he doesnt deserve to fight the best is plain ridiculous... i saw him fight matthew barney a few years ago in nottingham when witter was on the undercard.. both froch's and witter's opponents were cagey and unorthodox but froch busted barney up while witter won a close decision.. now witters a world champ (albeit in a weaker division) froch will be a champ no doubt Good good. That's the spirit I was hoping for.

saw the fight on skysports last night, good to see another midlands boy representing on the world stage... how anyone can say froch isnt world class is beyond me, and how anyone can say he doesnt deserve to fight the best is plain ridiculous... i saw him fight matthew barney a few years ago in nottingham when witter was on the undercard.. both froch's and witter's opponents were cagey and unorthodox but froch busted barney up while witter won a close decision.. now witters a world champ (albeit in a weaker division) froch will be a champ no doubt

His defence isn't the best, but he's got a very good chin, never been down or hurt, dont think he's ready for Calzaghe or Kessler yet but he would beat Lacy, Bute, Green & andrade. He's got world class skills & the power to stop any Super Middle. Looks like it could be Bute next in a eliminator for the wbc. Even in the unlikely event that Froch is WAY WAY better than i give him credit for, I'd love to see him fight Bute. You don't know what you're talking about if you think Froch can beat Bute. Bute's skills are up there with Calzaghe and Kessler. He'll be a real force to be reconed with in the future. Add to that i really like his down to earth style. The guy just does his job and leaves the trash-talking to Froch and the likes. Maybe it would have done him more good (carreerwise)to be an obnoctious loudmouth. but i really like his quetly confident approach. It's like he's so good he feels he doesn't need to do all that shit. Gives me a lot more respect for him. So i'd love to see Bute take out Froch as soon as possible. But i'll be worried sick the day he is to face Kessler (speaking as a Kessler fan). That could go either way. Especially if Bute builds up a little more experience first.

Nah, I think he would lose against the following fighters : Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine, Andrade, Bute. Uptill now i've been very much against Froch getting a shot at anyone even remotely close to the top. The guy is so full of shit. He's looked crap and doesn't deserve a shot at a title any more than at least 10-15 lesser known but more talented fighters at SMW. I haven't seen the Dodson fight. Maybe he actually looked less crap there than previously. But honestly you can't judge how good he is against someone like Dodson (who was rated no 100-and-something at SMW i believe). I had hoped Dodson would STFU Froch, but that wasn't to be. Now i have kind of mixed feelings about the top guys facing Froch. I still think he's crap and completely undeserving. No matter what if Kessler faced him it would be no better than Calzaghe facing Manfredo, Bika or Ashira (worse in fact). But on the other hand with the british media and fans starting to increasingly buy into all his BS. I think it's about time someone shut him up for good ( though i suspect nothing short of death would do the trick). I would personally forgive any of the fighters you mention for taking a too easy fight, just so we can see Froch badly beaten. In the mean time - I hope as many british fans as possible will get behind their new hero Froch. Hope they'll talk him up to be the master of the universe or whatever. Just because it will be so much more fun when he has the crap beaten out of him by any of the mentioned fighters (or anyone else - don't wanna discrimitate). To to all you brits. Worship the next "great british hope". Call him unbeatable. Go apeshit about his incredible skills. Declare him superior to any fighter to have yet walked the face of the earth. Even call him "the next Calzaghe". - Just as long as we get to see him against any half-decent fighter who'll end that dream. And i'll have a good long laugh.

Froch doesn't have a chance against Kessler or Calzaghe . He has no defence and Kessler or Calzaghe would stop him inside 6. His defence isn't the best, but he's got a very good chin, never been down or hurt, dont think he's ready for Calzaghe or Kessler yet but he would beat Lacy, Bute, Green & andrade. He's got world class skills & the power to stop any Super Middle. Looks like it could be Bute next in a eliminator for the wbc.

So you were out drinking with a world ranked supermiddleweight but thought "fuck it, I'd best go home and log on to the internet". You're a lying fanny rag you are, son. You need to fuck a fanny and stop bullshitting out yer arse, son. LMAO this is the funnist shit I seen all day

Nah, I think he would lose against the following fighters : Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine, Andrade, Bute. Froch doesn't have a chance against Kessler or Calzaghe . He has no defence and Kessler or Calzaghe would stop him inside 6.

Nah, I think he would lose against the following fighters : Calzaghe, Kessler, Mundine, Andrade, Bute.