I was thinking back earlier today about the prospects of Riddick Bowe, way back when, then I got to thinking about how tragic his career turned out to be and how he's been affected so badly by fighting. So I got the idea to compile a thread about boxing's most tragic figures. Who do you think are some of the most tragic figures/circumstances within the sport?
Top of my head headliners would be....
1.) Muhammed Ali
2.) Meldrick Taylor
3.) Riddick Bowe
4.) Evander Holyfield
5.) Tommy Hearns
Surely I've left out a few others, who have I forgotten?
doo koo kim, his corner should've thrown in the towel, that was tragic, anybody else watch that fight?
I saw it live when I lived in Vegas. He didn't appear to be that badly hurt.
To me Tyson is far from a tragedy, everything that's happened to him has been by his own doing, the rape case, the ear biting, the beating the shit out of people at redlights, etc... Tyson still has his mind and his health, granted he has the mental capability of a 12 year old but really, he's always been that way.
I disagree about Ali. I can see the point that he lived how he wanted to and thinks of Parkinson's as a challenge, but damn. It still hurts me everytime I see him and I know when he passes away, a great part of boxing will be gone forever, and that to me is very tragic. Same with Ray Robinson passing.
Riddick Bowe to me is tragic simply for the fact that he's nearly as damaged as Meldrick Taylor, if not as much, and is still allowed to fight when other people whould intervine and stop it. Here was a guy who has all the potential in the world, and suddenly everything just fell apart. Hell watch the first Holyfield fight, or even the second and you can see Bowe's potential just glowing. It's tragic what's happened to him.
Meldrick Taylor will always be my personal pick for most tragic though, aside from death in the ring. That kid had everything he needed to be one of the best, and after the Chavez fight he was never the same. What pisses me off most was the bullshit decision to stop the fight when Meldrick had clearly kicked Chavez's ass. So not only is he brain damaged for the rest of his life, he also has to live with the fact that he was robbed of the greatest victory in his entire career.
Didnt I say that? :ugh:
levander johnson. too much heart for his own good.:sad:
R.I.P
There are too many tragic stories in boxing to list. But the G-Man stands out as a huge memory to me as I remember watching that fight on tv as it happened. Me and my dad were celebrating that Benn won but then the mood dulled as we saw Gerald collapse in his corner. The way his eyes were squinting when he took to one knee was a disturbing site.
Also seeing the way Ali is now and hearing of how Joe Louis ended his days also saddens me.
To me Tyson is far from a tragedy, everything that's happened to him has been by his own doing, the rape case, the ear biting, the beating the shit out of people at redlights, etc... Tyson still has his mind and his health, granted he has the mental capability of a 12 year old but really, he's always been that way.
I disagree about Ali. I can see the point that he lived how he wanted to and thinks of Parkinson's as a challenge, but damn. It still hurts me everytime I see him and I know when he passes away, a great part of boxing will be gone forever, and that to me is very tragic. Same with Ray Robinson passing.
Riddick Bowe to me is tragic simply for the fact that he's nearly as damaged as Meldrick Taylor, if not as much, and is still allowed to fight when other people whould intervine and stop it. Here was a guy who has all the potential in the world, and suddenly everything just fell apart. Hell watch the first Holyfield fight, or even the second and you can see Bowe's potential just glowing. It's tragic what's happened to him.
Meldrick Taylor will always be my personal pick for most tragic though, aside from death in the ring. That kid had everything he needed to be one of the best, and after the Chavez fight he was never the same. What pisses me off most was the bullshit decision to stop the fight when Meldrick had clearly kicked Chavez's ass. So not only is he brain damaged for the rest of his life, he also has to live with the fact that he was robbed of the greatest victory in his entire career.
True it is sad to see Ali in his current state. But it's not a tragedy. He did exactly what he wanted to do with his life. I prefer to remember him as he was in the ring. Lightning fast, charismatic, the peoples champ.
How is Bowie a tragedy? Because he didn't live up to someone Else's expectations? Hog wash.
The real tragedies are the men who have died in the ring. Doing what they loved. :tragedy:
Tyson is not a tragic figure like the rest. He has his mind, his health, and can still make millions if he plays his cards right. I don't feel sorry for Tyson at all.
george chuvalo? all his sons died of an overdose and his wife comitted suicide....
I was gonna say that one. Three of his four sons and his wife died of either overdoses or suicide.
the g man?!
Yea man, the G man is a pretty messed up story.
But the Panama Lewis/Luis Resto/Billy Collins Jr story has to be the worse thing ever to happen in the sport of boxing!
Currently:
1. Gerald McClellan...blind and permanently brain damaged
2. Wilfred Benitez.........pugilistica dimensia and in a nursing home
3. Greg Page...........crippled for life and broke
4. Riddick Bowe........still fighting with possible early signs of pd
5. Meldrick Taylor.....possible early signs of pd
6. Iran Barkley.........broke
7. Thomas Hearns....still fighting; why?
8. Evander Holyfield...a victim of his own ego; still fighting, why?
9. Tony Tubbs..........still fighting
10. Roy Jones Jr.........chasing the glow his career once had...sad.
Now, as you might notice, I didn't note Muhammad Ali. Here's why: tragic is a subjective word; and Ali's mind is still sharp as a tack from all accounts.....he is fine with his condition and views it as a challenge to show teh world that Parkinson's syndrone can't slow him down. So, since he is fine with his condition, so am I.
Also, the ones I listed are not just those with pugilitica dimensia, as there are things almost as bad, such as being a slave to your ego and sticking around the game for too long, chasing echoes of your own past. This, to me, is truly tragic that certain fighters can't be satisfied with what they have accomplished, no matter how great the list is....pathetic. I also view any fighter who is broke, who was once a world class fighter as tragic because it is a testament to how this sport does not take care of it's own.
Thank you.