Floyd mayweather: Should we Criticize?

He beat Gatti. In his own words, Gatti was a bum. I beat the best says Floyd but I am fighting Gatti who is a bum and a C Class fighter. Gatti is now fighting Alfonso S Gomez. Floyd was lucky. He is an opportunist like none other. He is still looking for fights against old men, C class fighters and fighters who are past their prime. He said no one knew who Tony Margarito is or was. For years people have been talking about Tony M. vs Mayweather Jr. Floyd is a fake and a liar. All those people who claim and believe Floyd are the same kind of people who are victims of internet scams, 3 Card Molly, street hustlas who sale fake gold chains and fake household name applainces, buying a piece of the Brooklyn bridge and purchasing terrific swamp lands in Florida. Suckers are born everyday. These are the suckers and they are everywhere. Floyd's fans are suckers and Floyd is the their con. :boxing: Some day they will realize they were played. :owned: Its so stupid when people say that. Floyd says that about everyone. He calls Hatton a bum all the time but would you give him credit for that win? He calls Mosley a sparring partner and on and on. He even admitted after the fight that he just said that to sell the fight. Also, Taylor was going to fight Mora wasnt he? Calzaghe just fought Manfredo didnt he? Where do those 2 guys rank?

boxing is all about critics mayweather is the perfect target

exactly. people don't really like or enjoy sports no more. They just want the fireworks. That is why we can't win in the Olympics no more, that's why college football is better than the NFL, our sports are becoming watered down! That is not the fault of the people.. That is the fault of SPORTS which became SPORTS inc. And markets their game better than it is able to deliver.. Its not about competition anymore.. its about Entertainment and making a BUCK... Sports is a victim of itself.. and people are blind fucking sheep who are way over affected by advertising...

I think There are certain missed opportunities that PBF passed up on. 1) after cutting Baldomir, he was so much faster that he could've gotten the fight stopped on Baldy's cut, getting a TKO and doing something NO ONE expected. Would've been amazing. 2) Didn't fight Margarito after the 8 Million dollar offer. WTF!? There was enough hype around Margarito at the time to make him vs PBF a Lacy - Calzaghe situation. Last I checked, even though Lacy wasnt in calzaghe's league, he was still very good for PBF's career, right? If margarito came in the same way he did with Clottey, PBF could've beaten him in summer, AND be physically able to still beat baldy that fall. At that point it wouldn't matter how boring he is. He just accomplished a major feat that would've made haters STFU. 3) Didn't clean up any of the weight divisions past 130. Never fought casamayor, frietas, Harris, hatton, Margarito, Mosely, or cotto. I'm not arguing that any of these people would beat him. I'm just saying that beating all of them would make for a marginally better career, much less room for scrutiny. 4) Floyds trash talking rarely ever synched up with his in ring actions. He bragged and bragged about what an amazing beating he was going to give DLH, then proceeded to put on a yawn inspiring performance, which really crippled the casual fanbase of boxing. PBF had so much potential, and he wasted it doing the bare minimum. He's basically been reduced to the part of a WWE villian, where most only tune into him in the hopes that he will be KTFO, or at least hurt. Sad really. Exactly how many fights you think a fighter has in his career? Ok, supose he had done all those. He would have to miss a Baldomir, a Zab Judah, maybe Zab's caree would've been different if he had not faced pbf, anyway when he fought mayweather he was the sh*t, even DLH! Btw the question for all of those "contenders" you name there is: Who have they beaten back then? All very decent and "could be greats" but none would draw the money Floyd was needing in that later stage of his career. Don't forget pro boxing IS about the green.

This is so funny because I had said that I was going to make a thread talking about how Ali always said he was the greatest and even SRR said alot of times that he was the greatest but yet if Floyd does it then everyone hates him for it And everyone hated Ali for that too. Wait, they laughed... Thought it was a joke to entertain the people.. Different times. When you see ESPN reviewing Ali you see people laughing and smilling the the background. Then they had him make this ridiculous tv programs where he tap-danced and sang. Floyd, everyone takes him seriously, well i is very well documented in the first post, we don't need to go tru it all again.

I think There are certain missed opportunities that PBF passed up on. 1) after cutting Baldomir, he was so much faster that he could've gotten the fight stopped on Baldy's cut, getting a TKO and doing something NO ONE expected. Would've been amazing. 2) Didn't fight Margarito after the 8 Million dollar offer. WTF!? There was enough hype around Margarito at the time to make him vs PBF a Lacy - Calzaghe situation. Last I checked, even though Lacy wasnt in calzaghe's league, he was still very good for PBF's career, right? If margarito came in the same way he did with Clottey, PBF could've beaten him in summer, AND be physically able to still beat baldy that fall. At that point it wouldn't matter how boring he is. He just accomplished a major feat that would've made haters STFU. 3) Didn't clean up any of the weight divisions past 130. Never fought casamayor, frietas, Harris, hatton, Margarito, Mosely, or cotto. I'm not arguing that any of these people would beat him. I'm just saying that beating all of them would make for a marginally better career, much less room for scrutiny. 4) Floyds trash talking rarely ever synched up with his in ring actions. He bragged and bragged about what an amazing beating he was going to give DLH, then proceeded to put on a yawn inspiring performance, which really crippled the casual fanbase of boxing. PBF had so much potential, and he wasted it doing the bare minimum. He's basically been reduced to the part of a WWE villian, where most only tune into him in the hopes that he will be KTFO, or at least hurt. Sad really.

Floyd Mayweather: Should we criticize? By Jeremy Valdez (Nov 15, 2006) Photo © German Villasenor -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems that Floyd Mayweather Jr will never do anything right in the eyes of his critics. Despite making it look easy in a dominating boxing performance against Carlos Baldomir to win the WBC welterweight championship at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas on November 4, Mayweather was criticized throughout the fight by the HBO commentators and after the fight by many other writers and reporters for not knocking out Baldomir and making it a more 'exciting fight'. Sure the fight didn't have the toe-to-toe action that many fans were hoping for, but why should he be forced to stand and trade against a bigger man when he can literally box circles around Baldomir and win an easy decision without taking any hard shots? Not to mention he did so with a injured right hand throughout much of the fight. Without wanting to risk serious injury to that hand he beat Baldomir with lead left hooks, superior footwork, and his defensive wizardry in the second half of the fight. You can't really fault Mayweather for not wanting to risk injuring his hand to the point that would require surgery that could keep him inactive for an extended amount of time. There was probably a good chance that had he been able to use his right hand like he wanted to, Mayweather would have stopped Baldomir. Baldomir had no answer for anything Mayweather did and was completely frustrated after only the first few rounds. In the eyes of most observers, in fact, Carlos Baldomir did not win a single round. Criticizing Mayweather's performance is like saying Greg Maddux pitching a perfect game is unimpressive because he didn't have 20 strikeouts. Let's not forget this is the same Carlos Baldomir who beat Zab Judah and destroyed Arturo Gatti. The same guy that everybody was saying would be the toughest opponent of Mayweather's illustrious career. In fact, Emmanuel Steward said before the fight that he would favor Baldomir even though he felt Floyd would be well prepared. Yes, the same Emanuel Steward that said he didn't think Baldomir was good enough to beat Gatti. He quickly changed his tune in the fight to say that Mayweather wasn't a truly great fighter because he wasn't punishing Baldomir like other great fighters would. I'm not going to agree with Mayweather and say he's the greatest fighter of all time. It's impossible to compare eras because today's athletes have so many more physical advantages over fighters in the past. I've only seen highlights of Sugar Ray Robinson and Willie Pep and have seen only a few fights of Joe Louis. I have, however, seen plenty of Muhammad Ali, Roberto Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler, Tommy Hearns, Alexis Arguello and Aaron Pryor among others. I feel Pryor was actually the best of the bunch, and many people said Leonard ducked him in the amateurs and professionally, yet we don't hear about that too often. Floyd Mayweather does belong in that group. He's as talented as any of them and his work ethic would make him tough to beat. How many times did Ali call himself the greatest? What did Joe Louis' fans think about that? Yes, Mayweather is cocky but that's what drives him. The fact that he believes that makes him work that much harder not to get beat. If he had any less of an opinion of himself he probably wouldn't be 37-0. The difference and criticism with Floyd is that he wears his emotion and feelings on his sleeve. He says what he feels. It has cost him millions over his career and he understands and must accept that. He can be criticised and applauded for that. Many other great fighters feel the same way. They just want to be politically correct to try to preserve their image because if not the media has the power to convince the fans what kind of person someone is. So although I won't call him the best ever, I will say he doesn't deserve all of the criticism, especially from the HBO broadcast team. It's no wonder that boxing is at perhaps its lowest point in history. I've always felt that HBO's telecasts are far superior to Showtime or anyone else and I think Jim Lampley is the best play by play man in the business, but HBO shouldn't let these guys criticize the fights and fighters as much as they do. Yes, we all want honest opinions but the bottom line is that they work for HBO and demeaning these fights is not helping boxing in general or their future telecasts. We all know it's hard to keep Larry Merchant interested in anything. Sometimes I've wondered if he dozes off during some of the rounds during many telecasts. In my opinion, he's a good commentator but definitely has an agenda and is too negative a lot of the time. These guys should be selling the sport, not detracting from it. Merchant deserved everything he had coming to him from Floyd after the fight. We know Roy Jones and many others have wanted to do it for a long time. He talked about all of the boos from the crowd and the fact that many people left before the final round, but he might have failed to notice that a lot of the boos were for Baldomir for not attacking Mayweather the way he said he would and force Mayweather to get in the trenches and trade. Or he may not have seen that all of the celebrities in the star studded arena left after the 11th round so that they wouldn't get mobbed by the crowd after the fight. Not because they were bored. The section where I was sitting in was filled with Mayweather's family and friends who also left at that point, no doubt so they could get out of there quick and get to the press conference. Almost everybody else was still there for the decision. So maybe Merchant should have all of his facts straight before he makes comments like that. And no doubt Steward is a legendary trainer, but a great expert commentator he is not. He's decent, but betting against his prediction on the fight usually can be a pretty safe bet. Floyd Mayweather may never draw the crowd of an Oscar De La Hoya, Mike Tyson or Sugar Ray Leonard among others for many reasons, but to criticize a flawless performance is unnecessary. Drawing big pay-per-view numbers and large crowds has a lot more to do with being politically correct and how you deal with the media than performance alone. Floyd Mayweather will probably never be able to repair the image he portrayed early on in his career to gain the respect of the mass media whether it was deserved or not. As I said before, he has to live with that. And he will, very comfortably, as he has still become one of the wealthiest fighters in the sport, on his own terms. As for those tears at the press conference. There's no way anyone can call those fake. Whether he retires after one more fight or not, there is no doubt that's how he felt at the time. Boxing is the only thing Floyd's ever known. So to announce that he intends to retire was definitely one of the hardest things he will ever do, especially after twenty years of 'blood, sweat, and tears'. I have my doubts that it will happen like everyone else, but if he does walk away he will be missed. I will miss the perfection and precision that he brought to the sport. I actually liked the cockiness and trash talk. This is entertainment, after all. Why do you think a guy like Tito Ortiz is so popular in the UFC? He could be criticized far worse than Mayweather for his comments and actions in and out of the Octagon. The UFC is growing, however, because controversy and trash talk creates cash. Oh yeah, and their commentators don't bring down their events even no matter how bad they are. If Floyd walks away at age 30 he will join the likes of Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, and other greats who left in their prime. I applaud Floyd Mayweather if he walks away for the right reasons, but he shouldn't let the critics drive him away if that's the real reason he's talking retirement. They may get their wish and jump for joy if he does, but those same critics will be waiting for the next Floyd Mayweather type talent to come along and elevate the sport on their terms. My advice is don't hold your breath guys, you'll be waiting a while. mayweather style is very dependent on speed and reflexes. when you turn 30 you start losing those, slowly at first, then faster (look at roy jones), that's why he retired. In my oppinion floyd mayweather is even better than jones. He could be an all time great indeed. But it's very difficult. Not that he doesnt have the quality, but there are too many divisions and weight classes and thus these discutions.. i think he would beat every contender to p4p in the other divisions and he DID just that to his generation's contenders. The problem is there are 4 makor divisions (the ABC) and every few months people think there is a new challenge for mayweather.. Everyone has a time in boxing and floyd mayweather is running out of time. What a great career he has had. I repeat, i think he is the best in his era. No doubt. basically i have nothing to had in the great text above, cept these 2 cents of mine.

This is so funny because I had said that I was going to make a thread talking about how Ali always said he was the greatest and even SRR said alot of times that he was the greatest but yet if Floyd does it then everyone hates him for it

Exactly, the average American sports fan has no appreciation for skill anymore it is simply all about the spectacle. In the NBA, there is no defense, traveling etc. and when a team plays fundamentally sound (like the Pistons, they are labelled as boring and bad for the league). Similarly the NFL likes big pass plays down field which is why the rules are all tailored to the offenses and again people criticize teams that play good defense and run the ball (boring). The same is true in boxing where American fans will no longer respect skilled performances like those of Floyd Mayweather. There will never be the electricity of a Tyson KO, but to me this does not diminish the performance. The sport is called boxing not knockouts (thank you Winky Wright) and frankly while not as exciting I enjoy watching a true technician in the ring. Mayweather's movement, handspeed, etc. is very impressive to me and something I like watching. Now clearly we would all rather see Corrales-Castillo but realistically how often can a fight like that happen.

Criticizing Mayweather reminds me of the assholes that were criticizing Ichiro for hitting only base hits. exactly. people don't really like or enjoy sports no more. They just want the fireworks. That is why we can't win in the Olympics no more, that's why college football is better than the NFL, our sports are becoming watered down!

BS....Terrell Owens has to catch the pass and Mayweather has to beat the other guy. Otherwise, their big mouths and high salaries are a sham..... I think he has beat the other guy 37 out of 37 times.

Criticizing Mayweather reminds me of the assholes that were criticizing Ichiro for hitting only base hits. lol...exactly...like he didnt give the guys behind him an opportunity to get 100 RBI's a season....Ichiro is the best base reaching player inthe game..

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Criticizing Mayweather reminds me of the assholes that were criticizing Ichiro for hitting only base hits.

BS....Terrell Owens has to catch the pass and Mayweather has to beat the other guy. Otherwise, their big mouths and high salaries are a sham.....

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