There is alway these stuff of mafia and gang invovle in boxing that i seen in the movies but as in here i never seen a thread talk about it.
I belive that some of the decesion in boxing invovle a hidden person that controls the the whole shots. There is so much money invovle in gambling that everyone want a piece of it.
What do you think?
The thing is that boxing is a public business, in a sense it is owned by the people who pay money to see the fights, they are the shareholders. To leave the shareholders at ease, the CEO's must project a calming and reassuring aura to the public so as to show that all is well with their investments.
Thus, we have the personalities that we see in promoters. Boxing promotion is the new wave of organized crime running the show. Business and crime are separated by a line so fine as to leave no room to distinguish where one begins, where the other ends, and where they overlap.
While today's environment of sports is not as forbidding as the days when Chicago crime organizations were the effective commission, it is still a world where semantics and business-sense rule supreme over principle and ethics.
My only proposal would be the National Sanctioning committee that the sport has been toying with for several years. The fate of the sport is in Sen. John McCain's hands now.
Sen. McCain that mean there is a lot of money invovle.
the share thing is done with many companies where the manpulaite the prices of the shares and at the end the small investors like me and you are getting nicked.
As for Don King stuff. I dont think he really controls his promotional company i tihnk there is man behind this man.
He is more powerful than you think this Don King
did any you guys think the guzman barros fight was a fix.
i think what happend was barros was suppose to get the decision or something but it was too unrealistic to give him it the fight went too split deciesion but guzman won every round
Chris Eubank, Simply The Best, Insists Fights Are Fixed
Certainly Some Of His Fights Seemed To Be Fixed. Dan Schommer Fight Was Definately A Fix Eubank Admits He Only Got The Decision Due To 'politics'. His Second Fight With Steve Collins Was Clearly Supposed To Be Fixed For Eubank To Get The Dec And Pave Way For Benn V Eubank 3 At Wembley For 15 Mill. Collins Hardly Lost A Round Yet It Was Split. Would Of Been A Riot If Eubank Got The Dec
Who is the most feared man in boxing business as a buisness man not a fighters?
I still feel like there is someone calling the shots. but now they become much more smarter and not try to make to much of the terror tatics
The thing is that boxing is a public business, in a sense it is owned by the people who pay money to see the fights, they are the shareholders. To leave the shareholders at ease, the CEO's must project a calming and reassuring aura to the public so as to show that all is well with their investments.
Thus, we have the personalities that we see in promoters. Boxing promotion is the new wave of organized crime running the show. Business and crime are separated by a line so fine as to leave no room to distinguish where one begins, where the other ends, and where they overlap.
While today's environment of sports is not as forbidding as the days when Chicago crime organizations were the effective commission, it is still a world where semantics and business-sense rule supreme over principle and ethics.
My only proposal would be the National Sanctioning committee that the sport has been toying with for several years. The fate of the sport is in Sen. John McCain's hands now.
In decades past, the illegal exploits of Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo have become ingrained in the fight game's illustrious lore. Tales of fixed fights, threatened managers, intimidated commissions, all of that has been proven to be true of accounts until the early 70's. Now, the mafia and other organized crime has only regional and spotty control of the comings occurring in the ring.
In the old days, many crime bosses and henchman worked as managers of fighters, who would negotiate with matchmakers and other frightened authorities to set up fights that on paper would be competitive, except for the criminal aspect that people wouldn't take into account. Other things would be extortion, where you would be frozen out by lucrative venues if you didn't sign over certain entitlements to the organized crime syndicate. Come to think of it, that sounds an awful lot like when certain promoters request options on fighters to challenge for their titles, huh?
Put two and two together and you have the evolution of Boxing and Organized Crime.
Who is the most feared man in boxing business as a buisness man not a fighters?
I still feel like there is someone calling the shots. but now they become much more smarter and not try to make to much of the terror tatics
In decades past, the illegal exploits of Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo have become ingrained in the fight game's illustrious lore. Tales of fixed fights, threatened managers, intimidated commissions, all of that has been proven to be true of accounts until the early 70's. Now, the mafia and other organized crime has only regional and spotty control of the comings occurring in the ring.
In the old days, many crime bosses and henchman worked as managers of fighters, who would negotiate with matchmakers and other frightened authorities to set up fights that on paper would be competitive, except for the criminal aspect that people wouldn't take into account. Other things would be extortion, where you would be frozen out by lucrative venues if you didn't sign over certain entitlements to the organized crime syndicate. Come to think of it, that sounds an awful lot like when certain promoters request options on fighters to challenge for their titles, huh?
Put two and two together and you have the evolution of Boxing and Organized Crime.
I think they still contorl them but in a better manner than when they used too.
usually there is many things happening around use that corrupation in sport is the last thing you tihnk about it.
If you seen undeafted the movie where the guy from Blade fights with the guy from bodygaurd of Demi Moore in stripper. at the end of the movie where they thank the people they thanked someone and contuined with "...
boxing alway was a jewish sport."
people started to think alot more and they dont want to get invovle directly like they used to be but with links and connection so theydont be in the spotlight or with bad publicity.
There are many cases or bad judgment and I never heard any investagtion on it.
many years ago boxing was run by murderers and thieves who had the power to make results happen.
the most famous case of this was jake la motta "going into the tank" against billy fox to get his shot at marcel cerdan.
altough la motta wasnt a mob fighter the scene in raging bull when his brother joey was told "he can beat all the sugar ray robinsons in the world but he aint gonna get a shot at that title, not without us" sums it all up.
sonny lison was also owned by mobsters that is why their will always be conspiracy theories over his fights with ali.
but in todays boxing the only criminals are the sanctioning bodies who rate fighters because they can bring in huge sanctioning fees.
the judges who are wined and dined by a promoter who's fighter they will be judging the next day.
and the promoters who dont make fights for the good of boxing but for the good of their own wealth.
just because they dont wear pinky rings and fedora hats no more doesnt mean they dont exist.
they are just more accepted as part of the game.
i mean in what other sport do you see a champion get beat and still keep his title because the challenger didnt pay the sanctioning body?
anything that there is money the mobs come to it.
they are like virus.
and some people think there tough but when you read more about there stories there are no buch of cowards and backstabbers
true
i heard Marciano fought an opponent(forgot his name,ill remember it tho) who was in debt with the mob
they told em they'd kill em if he didnt let rocky beat em
this is very true
n Liston tried to cheat Ali once
wen he put that substance on his glove n rubbed it all in ali's eye
but ali overcame that
i think there is still now but its a bit well organize.
They wont take many fights but for example there is the Mayweather-Baldomir coming up and the favor to ratio of betting is like 1/5 or may be more favoring Mayweather.
They could go there and teld the organization that like WBC officals or judges that to let Baldomire take the decesion or talk to Mayweather and make a deal with him.
so if the gambled with $1 mil the profit is 4Mil more and that is easy money
There is alway these stuff of mafia and gang invovle in boxing that i seen in the movies but as in here i never seen a thread talk about it.
I belive that some of the decesion in boxing invovle a hidden person that controls the the whole shots. There is so much money invovle in gambling that everyone want a piece of it.
What do you think?
well the 80s tyson did hear shit on it