http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twZ8-47Rp8g
Just look at that pathetic exhibition of boxing between Klitschko and Byrd and you will see just how easy it would be to beat Klitschko. Pawing the jab, over and over, and Byrd lets him get away with it. Make a move at him Klitschko pulls straight back and Byrd doesn't chase him. More often than not he crosses his feet when he moves laterally, and Byrd lets him get away with that too. It is hard to believe but that was a championship fight!
If Brock has studied the tape and done his homework in the gym, he will beat Klitschko because there is lots of ways to beat him. If........there is only two letters in that word, but it is a mighty big word!
I posted the video of Klitschko vs. Byrd. Watch it and you will see Klitschko using Byrd for clinching practise, and not doing it nearly as well as John Ruiz. Perhaps that is why he needed the practise?
looked more like he was using byrd for target practice and sweeping the floor with him
I posted the video of Klitschko vs. Byrd. Watch it and you will see Klitschko using Byrd for clinching practise, and not doing it nearly as well as John Ruiz. Perhaps that is why he needed the practise?
I just watched clip you provided and I counted a total of maybe five or six clinches, and most of those were initiated by Byrd leading in close with his head. Clinching practice, my ass. Was that a clinch that put Byrd on his ass or a telephone pole right hand? Clinches dont KpeopleTFO
If Brock had some quality that made him stand out, if he was really mobile or had a really big punch, or if he had great stamina, then I could see giving him a chance. As it stands however, he does nothing especially well, he just does everything fairly decent. That being said, if he rushes Wlad, he will have to clinch if he doesn't get caught on the way in. If he stays outside and waits for the second half of the fight, he just loses rounds and delays the beating a little, how's Wlad going to gas if he isn't being forced to work? I can only see a lucky shot winning him this fight. My two cents.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twZ8-47Rp8g
Just look at that pathetic exhibition of boxing between Klitschko and Byrd and you will see just how easy it would be to beat Klitschko. Pawing the jab, over and over, and Byrd lets him get away with it. Make a move at him Klitschko pulls straight back and Byrd doesn't chase him. More often than not he crosses his feet when he moves laterally, and Byrd lets him get away with that too. It is hard to believe but that was a championship fight!
If Brock has studied the tape and done his homework in the gym, he will beat Klitschko because there is lots of ways to beat him. If........there is only two letters in that word, but it is a mighty big word!
Im just wondering why you harbor so much hate towards Wlad. So much so that it even clouds your common sense.
There is NOTHING Brock can do to win. No matter what he tries.
I agree he paces himself better now. And of course it takes 2 guys to fight a fast fight, but it only takes one guy to throw out the other man's rythm. True, Brock could tire just as fast as klit, however it is to his advantage to get in superb condition, his smaller body would allow him to outlast a heavier fighter like klit if he fights the right fight.
Like i said it is highly unlikely scenerio but that is what Brock would have to do to beat klit.
Brock has never been a fast fighter. Besides, Klitschko has never in my memory come in heavy or not prepared physically. Besides, Brock will slow down immediately after he gets hit with a couple of rights and Klitschko has the jab to neutralize even a very quick fighter. I don't think this will work at all.
I think Brock can win the fight if he does what Valuev did to Barrett: pace himself very carefully, not being the aggressor in the first 6-7 rounds, and then pick-up the pace and pressure Wlad. By that time Wlad will be a little tired and Brock has a chance to catch him and TKO. But chances of that are pretty slim, most likely Wlad would finish him before then.
once wladamir lands a good straight right he will have brock backing up for the rest of the fight.
people keep saying that brock needs to get inside to win but the fact of the matter is that he cant get inside without getting hit, and hes never been hit nearly as hard as he is going to be in this one... he really truly will have to get lucky to win this fight.
Wlad's stamina has improved a great deal lately. It takes two people to fight a fast fight, Brock will tire just as much, if not more.
I agree he paces himself better now. And of course it takes 2 guys to fight a fast fight, but it only takes one guy to throw out the other man's rythm. True, Brock could tire just as fast as klit, however it is to his advantage to get in superb condition, his smaller body would allow him to outlast a heavier fighter like klit if he fights the right fight.
Like i said it is highly unlikely scenerio but that is what Brock would have to do to beat klit.
yeah right, and waste all his tap dancing experience???
i cant believe im reading some people who definately dont know anything about training a fighter talking about how calvin brock should be attempting a more tyson-esque style.
somebody bookmark this and make sure it gets brought up about once a week after brock is pounded into submission.
maybe we should email the suggestions to calvins trainers theyd probably insist he make the change immediately
Do you know that Ray Robinson claims in his autobiography he was paid about $15,000 a week to tap dance? It doesn't surprise me that Robinson was a good dancer, he had great footwork in the ring. But what about Brock? His footwork seems somewhat mediocre to me. All that tap dancing didn't do a hell of a lot to improve his performance in the ring.
....yeah, if he could do it. It is not a popular sytle inasmuch as it requires a very high level of fitness. Most heavyweights are too bloody lazy to make that commitment. Try bobbing and weaving and jabbing for one solid minute, then you will see how difficult it is.
yeah right, and waste all his tap dancing experience???
i cant believe im reading some people who definately dont know anything about training a fighter talking about how calvin brock should be attempting a more tyson-esque style.
somebody bookmark this and make sure it gets brought up about once a week after brock is pounded into submission.
maybe we should email the suggestions to calvins trainers theyd probably insist he make the change immediately
b class? wtf?
i'm normally not one to say something that could be offensive, but your post is fuckin' ridiculous and had to be called out. i mean, really - calling a guy who has one of the best offensive arsenals in heavyweight history a b class fighter is going to kill any credibility you have, or had.
he fights like john ruiz? somebody get this guy a copy of a john ruiz fight.
I posted the video of Klitschko vs. Byrd. Watch it and you will see Klitschko using Byrd for clinching practise, and not doing it nearly as well as John Ruiz. Perhaps that is why he needed the practise?
IMO, Brock might have a chance against Klitschko if he adopted the "peek-a-boo" style introduced by Patterson and perfected by Iron Mike Tyson.
Brock has the perfect height and build to suit this style. However, the question here is; does he have the physical and mental conditioning to adapt and change from his regular style.
Does anyone here think that the peek-a-boo style would suit Brock and help him to win?
....yeah, if he could do it. It is not a popular sytle inasmuch as it requires a very high level of fitness. Most heavyweights are too bloody lazy to make that commitment. Try bobbing and weaving and jabbing for one solid minute, then you will see how difficult it is.
IMO, Brock might have a chance against Klitschko if he adopted the "peek-a-boo" style introduced by Patterson and perfected by Iron Mike Tyson.
Brock has the perfect height and build to suit this style. However, the question here is; does he have the physical and mental conditioning to adapt and change from his regular style.
Does anyone here think that the peek-a-boo style would suit Brock and help him to win?
you people are stupid..wlad is like 6'6 245 do you expect him to bounce all around the ring like ray leonard or mayweather? he dosent have to ..he hits like a mack truck
Brock isn't very mobile or very quick for a 6'2 215 lb. fighter, and has never looked all that fit from what I've seen. Brock-Holy would be a better fight lol
Klitschko is a B-class fighter and he has been beaten by C-class opponents.
On the face of it Klitschko is the best of a bad lot, but he is vulnerable to an opponent who does his homework and comes to fight. Quite honestly I am not sure that Brock is the man to topple Klitschko although it is well within his ability to do so. I saw him struggle against McCline, but most of that struggle was unnecessary. Brock made it difficult for himself. McCline can't deal with lateral head movement that is why Bryd hit him so easily. Klitschko now likes to play huggy-bear, apparently he thinks the John Ruiz style is a good way to fight. Ok, what is Brock going to do about it? He should be learning how to time an uppercut. But what he is probably going to do is snivel and whine about it after he loses the fight.
b class? wtf?
i'm normally not one to say something that could be offensive, but your post is fuckin' ridiculous and had to be called out. i mean, really - calling a guy who has one of the best offensive arsenals in heavyweight history a b class fighter is going to kill any credibility you have, or had.
he fights like john ruiz? somebody get this guy a copy of a john ruiz fight.
Sanders did to Wladimir what he tried to do to Vitali, slip left, straightleft. Being a southpaw, it works very well against that robotic European style. He came close but couldn't quite pull it off against Vitali for two reasons: Vitali was waiting for it and Sanders timing was off due to lack of fitness. Byrd may have tried it too, but he didn't come to fight, he came to lose.
Sanders couldn't PULL it off for one simple reason.. Vitali has a rock solid chin.. You also mention that he was ready for it.. Which obviously Wlad wasn't
For brock to beat Wlad he'd have to carry the tempo, get on the inside stay in his chest to smother wlads punches and make him fight a fast fight. Wlad would eventually tire out and and Brock coulda capitalize by teeing off at will at a tired and slow klit.
Is that gonna happen, highly unlikely but thats what i think he needs to do.
Wlad's stamina has improved a great deal lately. It takes two people to fight a fast fight, Brock will tire just as much, if not more.
Klitschko is a B-class fighter and he has been beaten by C-class opponents.
Im sorry but Wladimir is NOT a B class fighter, period.
However, your're right in the sense that NOBODY is a perfect fighter. Maybe Wladimir has those flaws, and maybe Brock can use those to his advantage. The only guy to beat or trouble Wladimir a lot without just relentlessly driving foward was Sanders. Whatever it was, he found something flawed, not quite sure, but he was able to land that left easily.
Sanders did to Wladimir what he tried to do to Vitali, slip left, straightleft. Being a southpaw, it works very well against that robotic European style. He came close but couldn't quite pull it off against Vitali for two reasons: Vitali was waiting for it and Sanders timing was off due to lack of fitness. Byrd may have tried it too, but he didn't come to fight, he came to lose.
Couldn't agree more, Derranged. Every fighter out there has faults- so does Klitschko. Does that make him a B level fighter! Not at all! He has some major flaws, but you are completely failing to recognize his strengths in a fashion that makes you seem biased against him. You present yourself well, that you know boxing, but if you do remember- just because a fighter has flaws does NOT mean its easy for his opponent to exploit them. You need to take into account what he does well. You have analyzed Kiltschko...now analyze Brock and his flaws. Too methodical, plodding, slow. Needs to get set to punch, etc. Take a look at his weaknesses, match them against his opponents strengths- then you have a predictor of what will happen.
Kilitschko has major flaws- but is an offensive maniac with the way he can put together his punches in his rythmn. Brock, on the other hand, for all his sound technical skill doesn't seem to possess what it takes to use any flaws you have mentioned against the big guy.
KO Klitschko.
the best HW in the world... bla... bla...
there is no way brock is going to beat wlad... bla...bla...
I am sure we heard similar tunes before Purrity, Sanders and Brewster.
the sad thing is wlad, with his 3 KO losses, most likely IS the best HW in this sad division
well,,,,some people forget he has 46 wins with those 3 losses. there's been a hell of a lot worse records for champions