Nikolay Valuev - The next big thing!

I just saw on Fox News -- Klytschko is fighting Valuev next! I will put my house and my car and my socks and shirt on Valuev!

Klitchsko? http://youtube.com/watch?v=e5uPaNxcq7w&mode=related&search= From what I can see here, all he did was wear "himself" out and then when he was out of breath he got punched all over the ring like a little girl until he fell flat on his face and had to be saved by the ref. He couldn't knock granny off a piss-pot. If he can't wear down a pygmy, how on earth is he going to wear down Valuev? Before you bet the house on Vauev you need to study up better on some of these guys. Klitschko has had some pitfalls but against much better competition (Valuev has not faced anyone nearly as tough as Brewster). he is stronger, faster, and more skilled than Valuev. Lyakovich, Peter, and Brewster would also be heavilyn favored over Valuev.

ehr .. right :)

Whats up my man..........thanks for saving me from typing all of that. the bigger they are the harder they fall thats what i say not what i think. the guy got a body to fight but not a haert to fight. lets see what happend once he face some one like ALI or ME. it takes a wight to bring a body down, it takes a haert to fight. we will see i mean we be waiting.:owned:

Well, if and when the fight comes I'll put everything I own + loans on Valuev. If he's the best there is, I may as well go put some shorts and boots on myself. I've been doing some reading about Valuev. It seems that it's not that he wants to fight bums, it's that he hasn't had much of a chance to fight anyone better. He was banned from coming to the U.S. and fined 180,000.00 because he couldn't make it to a fight that was set up around 9/11 because international air travel was restricted. Plus he is loyal to his trainer which causes him to get less fights, plus all the top guys wont fight him. If you were one of the top U.S. heavyweights would you rather fight someone on home soil for huge money at a big highly publicized fight or would you rather go to Germany and fight some neutral guy in some fight that no one really knows about for a fraction of the money? One of Valuev problems is that he has been highly restricted. I think he'll finally get up. It's not that he can't beat the bigger guys or that he just wants to fight bums or that he WONT fight them. He hasn't had the chance. Valuev is a working boxer who has accepted every fight put in front of him. He hasn't picked and chosen. He has been in Australia, Japan, Germany and the U.S. -- If he's offered a fight he just steps up and he is undefeated.

Brewster is certainly not a pygmy, I would give him a good chance of beating Valuev himself. Also, Wlad is the best heavyweight out there period. If anyone knocks Valuev out, it's him.

Klitchsko? http://youtube.com/watch?v=e5uPaNxcq7w&mode=related&search= From what I can see here, all he did was wear "himself" out and then when he was out of breath he got punched all over the ring like a little girl until he fell flat on his face and had to be saved by the ref. He couldn't knock granny off a piss-pot. If he can't wear down a pygmy, how on earth is he going to wear down Valuev?

Well the difference is that McCline just plain doesn't hit hard at all, while Valuev does. Both are unimpressive punchers for their size but Valuev is so much bigger and yeah, P4P a slightly harder puncher, so it translates to him having a big punch. I've never seen McBride throw a punch like the right hand Valuev threw in the 11th. That was pretty explosive, more so than anything I've seen from McBride. Whether it's impressive or not for his size is not what's important to him winning fights. What is, is that he can hurt the opponent with his punches, and he can.

A fighter like Klitchsko would kill him. He is big enough to not be completely pushed around and has the boxing ability and power to dominate him. Valuev is just a big slow ogar that doesn't have impressive power for his size. Klitchsko would wear him out. Sure does'nt.He is like McCline in that aspect big as fuck but not very powerful for their size.

A fighter like Klitchsko would kill him. He is big enough to not be completely pushed around and has the boxing ability and power to dominate him. Valuev is just a big slow ogar that doesn't have impressive power for his size. Klitchsko would wear him out. I really don't think Valuev is slow. For a guy that size, I would expect him to be throwing his arms around like a sloth. But he is quite fast. That's one of the very things that made me latch onto him so quick.. I saw him and thought: "Yeah he's big".. but then I saw that he can throw barrages of blows and in quick succession.. and that if he sees his opponent get tired he throws WHOPPING loop punches with his whole bodyweight behind them.. and extends the punch until he's almost on a 45 degree angle. Man if THAT punch connects, it would be like getting stomped on my a rhino.

Also Tyson didn't lose to McBride because he was too small, it was because he was too old and had no desire to train anymore. The guy was well, well past his prime. He easily KO'ed bigger and much better men than McBride in his prime. Yeah true. I think I recall Tyson saying himself; that he doesn't have it in him anymore -- and yes, getting a bit long in the tooth doesn't help. Plus his brain is messed up from being locked up. It's hard to make a comeback after 5 years of being locked up. Age -- his past -- less stamina -- financial problems -- brain problems all contributed imho. However, that all amounts to being tired, so I just left it at that. He wouldn't have been "tired" 10 years ago (or even 5) for lack of all the above reasons. It's a pity about Tyson; a wasted life. He even said it himself.

A fighter like Klitchsko would kill him. He is big enough to not be completely pushed around and has the boxing ability and power to dominate him. Valuev is just a big slow ogar that doesn't have impressive power for his size. Klitchsko would wear him out.

Also Tyson didn't lose to McBride because he was too small, it was because he was too old and had no desire to train anymore. The guy was well, well past his prime. He easily KO'ed bigger and much better men than McBride in his prime.

There we goo -- back to normal conversation.. thanks :)

Actually Valuev isn't a terrible boxer. My only question is how he will take a puncher from a serious hitter like Sam Peter or Wlad Klitschko. Remember that the hardest puncher he's faced so far is Ruiz. If he can take Wlad's punch, he will likely beat anyone alive today.

Ok, no need to get insulting -- it's called conversation. If you can't find convincing words to back what you say against a newbie, then maybe you should throw the towel in :) I'm not "arguing" anyway -- so chill. Just saying what I think about Valuev. No one has said anything to convince me otherwise yet, although I have asked repeated questions and shown a willingness to hear useful information. http://youtube.com/watch?v=m5MRhftKw7Q That's the fight I was talking about with Tyson. Tyson was a good boxer.. no matter what anyone says. But he was beat -- you know why? One reason, and one reason alone. Size. Now this guy WAS a nobody -- and Tyson quit on his stool because he was exhausted. I think Valuev will win just the same way. He'll just keep exhausting his opponents. He doesn't have to know how to box. All he has to know is how not to get hurt, and with an 85" reach, that's not all that hard. Also, just because I admit I'm a newbie, it doesn't give anyone a license for low blows (so to speak).. so, I'm new here and I don't know a whole lot about boxing, but if you can't make a case without just attacking the fact that I'm new here then your useless at convincing anyone letalone a newbie. Like I said, I am not here to argue, but I'd really like to be able to continue this thread and ask questions and say what I think without trippers whining about me being new. It's just weak if you ask me. I might not be a boxing guru, but I'm not a total retard either. It doesn't take much of a brain to work out that when someone is standing a foot over you and weights another 100 pounds that if your face collects too many of their punches you're going to hit the floor -- PERIOD. And like I said -- Valuev has a bit of speed about him. Look on youtube.. there are several instances where I can point out that he made a barrage of punches in quick succession - even in late rounds while his opponents have been jumping all over the place to keep up are absolutely exhausted.

Just watch clips of him. All he could do was box. He was a technical outside boxer. I mean he wasn't Robinson, but he was better and more skilled than say Michael Grant IMO. I would rate Carnera's skill above Valuev's. Valuev hits much harder however.

Carnera definitely knew how to box, just not how to punch. Carnera couldnt box eggs IMO mate. if he did box or was good at it ive never heard of it so il not say anymore you'll probably prove me wrong but thats what im stcikin to until it happens

What I don't understand is: You admittedly know absolutely nothing about the sport. Yet you try and argue against people that are boxing fanatics. You're making yourself sound dumber and more ignorant by every post. ... Do you see me arguing neurology with a brain surgeon?

He said every BIG fight that Barrett has been in, he's lost. Including losses to: Klitchko Rahman and Joe Mesi. And yes Tyson held the WBA, as well as the WBC and IBF belts. Valuev just holds the WBA.