Final Poll - Abraham vs Miranda - Who Won?

trust me, there will be one next year, i'll guarentee it. it's kinda working against Miranda that they kept him the #1 contender in that Abraham's already upset at the comments Miranda's made post-fight, unfortunately for Miranda, he's not gonna have a 'broken-jawed fighter' to get aggressive with next time... we'll all get to see who's technically superior. Let's not forget, Miranda broke that jaw twice with his fist.

Let the fighters have a rematch here in the US. trust me, there will be one next year, i'll guarentee it. it's kinda working against Miranda that they kept him the #1 contender in that Abraham's already upset at the comments Miranda's made post-fight, unfortunately for Miranda, he's not gonna have a 'broken-jawed fighter' to get aggressive with next time... we'll all get to see who's technically superior.

What further adds to the controversy is the major boxing ranking organizations decided to keep Miranda at the #1 spot, especially Ring magazine moving him up 3 notches. That speaks volumes. Everyone already knows the outcome on paper, sure, but this downplays Abraham's victory significantly. Hate it or love it, it is what it is...

Rematch is the only way to settle this.

Let the fighters have a rematch here in the US. Thats what im saying

Let the fighters have a rematch here in the US.

More people have Miranda winning the fight, and the guy was deducted 5 points. The 5 points deduction was ridicoulous too by the way. Only in Germany :)

This poll is really split.

Like I just don't get it. I'm usually the first person on this forum saying I can completely understand how people can score fights in different manners and am completely ok when judges don't see it my way. The judges did see it my way this time but a decent section of the public doesn't and I just can't agree with their perspective or even understand it. This is how i feel as well..

Do you think the 5 point deductions were warranted? I thought they were ridiculous. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

For the record ,I thought miranda deserved to win,but obviously with the all the point deductions it made it next to impossible for Miranda to get a decision. Do you think the 5 point deductions were warranted?

For the record ,I thought miranda deserved to win,but obviously with the all the point deductions it made it next to impossible for Miranda to get a decision.

Thanks for pointing that out Mech... I couldn't read...but you quoting him somehow made me able to read it. Like I just don't get it. I'm usually the first person on this forum saying I can completely understand how people can score fights in different manners and am completely ok when judges don't see it my way. The judges did see it my way this time but a decent section of the public doesn't and I just can't agree with their perspective or even understand it.

I wish this poll was public because I honestly want to know which people think Miranda won. I thought Miranda won the fight .............................

I thought Miranda won the fight, but it was close. There is absolutely no reason for all of the bitching about it, and everyone acts like Miranda is the next coming of Jesus Christ. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

I wish this poll was public because I honestly want to know which people think Miranda won. If you take away the 3 point deductions from low blows then the fight is close and if that's your argument... then that's no argument at all. Then you can complain about a referee who screwed Miranda but you can't debate who "won" the fight. A lot of people are talking in this thread but nobody is really pointing out what Miranda did to win.... maybe somebody might be able to convince me but all I've read is a lot of bull shit and debate; and no real facts being pointed out. The question of, "How can you win by sitting on the ropes for 2 minutes of every round?" was asked and I think the answer is easy.... by your opponent not capitalizing during that 2 minutes. Miranda would throw and throw and throw but couldn't land a clean punch to save his life. AA on the other hand sat against the rope, in pain, and avoided getting hit while throwing clean, effective punches.

The polls do not show that most people think Abraham won. If anything, the polls reflect that people's opinion is pretty much split. This is such a hot topic in boxing. I don't recall another fight being this controversial. I do look forward to the rematch very much. As an impartial boxing fan, I saw the fight for what it was. I had Miranda winning the fight. I thought the points deductions were atrocious and uncalled for. And for goodness sake, the fight should have been stopped. Abraham should not have gone through all that unncessary pain to keep his belt. The man's life was in jeopardy and this is evident in being rushed to the hospital with surgery. Most unbiased fans agree with you. Most, but not all. The hardcore European/Abraham fans will never give in no matter what happens. All of a sudden they say every sanction body and sports writer have no idea what they talk about when it comes to the sport in which they make their living. Hell, Ring Magazine, to me one of the oldest and most respected magazine in boxing actually put Miranda 3 spots higher on their ranking after seeing the fight. Rematch: Miranda will do what the ref would not let him do, fight and get the KO.

The polls do not show that most people think Abraham won. If anything, the polls reflect that people's opinion is pretty much split. This is such a hot topic in boxing. I don't recall another fight being this controversial. I do look forward to the rematch very much. As an impartial boxing fan, I saw the fight for what it was. I had Miranda winning the fight. I thought the points deductions were atrocious and uncalled for. And for goodness sake, the fight should have been stopped. Abraham should not have gone through all that unncessary pain to keep his belt. The man's life was in jeopardy and this is evident in being rushed to the hospital with surgery.

Also, when he has 'even' within the brackets, that's him tallying the total score after each round...he only has the 11th round even...and that's because of the point deduction. He had it for Miranda (10-9), but because of the low blow point deduction he was forced to score it even at (9-9) Erm no 4 - Even 10-10 (Miranda 39-38) He scores round 4 even and the total score is 39-38 8 - Even 10-10 (Abraham 76-74) He scores round 8 even and the total score is 76-74 so ur wrong

Also, when he has 'even' within the brackets, that's him tallying the total score after each round...he only has the 11th round even...and that's because of the point deduction. He had it for Miranda (10-9), but because of the low blow point deduction he was forced to score it even at (9-9)