Sloppiano should be removed from the heavyweight hall of fame

I agree Rocky Marciano does not belong in the Fattyweight division with all these useless, lazy bums who couldn't fight their way into a box of condoms. There isn't one fattyweight today that Marciano at 185 or Dempsey at 187 or Louis at 197 could not KO the first round. marciano could not hang with todays heavyweights

I agree Rocky Marciano does not belong in the Fattyweight division with all these useless, lazy bums who couldn't fight their way into a box of condoms. There isn't one fattyweight today that Marciano at 185 or Dempsey at 187 or Louis at 197 could not KO the first round. I actually tend to think Dempsey and Louis are better than Marciano Wlad isn't fat...but yeah, a lot of fighters today in the heavyweight division are just to heavy..."Size" isn't always everything...sometimes it is an advantage, but it can be overrated

I agree Rocky Marciano does not belong in the Fattyweight division with all these useless, lazy bums who couldn't fight their way into a box of condoms. There isn't one fattyweight today that Marciano at 185 or Dempsey at 187 or Louis at 197 could not KO the first round.

The damager done, thats how. Size is a ridiculously overrated issue. Tyson hits hard but not harder than Foreman, Shavers, or Marciano. He had more speed and accuracy with power and thats what made him dangerous, but he didn't hit harder. Chin; have you not seen the shots he was hit with? He was knocked down twice his whole career but was not hurt at all. Tyson has an underrated chin but I don't see it being better. Foreman vs. Marciano. My prediction(s), either Foreman TKO3 or Marciano KO7. It depends if Marciano can make it through the opening rounds. This has already been discussed many times, take a look. I'll give you that Tyson doesn't hit harder than Foreman and Shavers, but Marciano, have to disagree with you. Tyson has fought much bigger men than Marciano and knocked them dead...plus, even though Holmes wasn't in his prime, he was able to KTFO Larry, something nobody has ever been able to do, both prior, or after. Was also the only one to knock-down and Knockout Michael Spinks, though truly a (big) light-heavyweight, but what was Walcott, Moore, and Charles? You also can't use that lame excuse that his power was just in his speed since Ali was fast, but he didn't have the power that Tyson displayed...not sure if that is what you were trying to say Marciano was knocked down by Moore and Walcott, big hitters for non-heavyweights, but like I said, non-heavyweights. Foreman vs Marciano, have to disagree with you there again: Marciano doesn't move quickly going in, he is more like Frazier, a plotter...he has short arms so that is another disadvantage because he can't get in there quickly enough for those short arms...his punches aren't fast enough nor does he have the ability to throw great combinations to keep George off... he leaves his chin exposed when he throws his punches, though he is underrated when somebody is throwing at him since he does have the ability to roll with the punches, not like Toney, but he isn't taking a lot of shots flush like people say..

"Hit Harder"...how did you come up with that??? Had a better chin, how did you come up with that??? That's cool though, what's your opinion on a Foreman vs Marciano? Marciano KO 3 Foreman:rolleyes: The damager done, thats how. Size is a ridiculously overrated issue. Tyson hits hard but not harder than Foreman, Shavers, or Marciano. He had more speed and accuracy with power and thats what made him dangerous, but he didn't hit harder. Chin; have you not seen the shots he was hit with? He was knocked down twice his whole career but was not hurt at all. Tyson has an underrated chin but I don't see it being better. Foreman vs. Marciano. My prediction(s), either Foreman TKO3 or Marciano KO7. It depends if Marciano can make it through the opening rounds. This has already been discussed many times, take a look.

Marciano KO6 Tyson. This is coming from a fan of both. Rock hit harder, had a better heart and chin. tyson tkos marciano this is coming from a big rock fan

Marciano KO6 Tyson. This is coming from a fan of both. Rock hit harder, had a better heart and chin. Freedom of Speech is a great thing in this country "Hit Harder"...how did you come up with that??? Had a better chin, how did you come up with that??? That's cool though, what's your opinion on a Foreman vs Marciano? Marciano KO 3 Foreman:rolleyes:

Marciano KO6 Tyson. This is coming from a fan of both. Rock hit harder, had a better heart and chin.

Rocky faced and beat every heavyweight contender from his era(washed up or not).He never avoided anyone!It's not like Ali,Foreman,Etc were around at the time and he ran scared.I don't think it's fair to shit on the man because guys like Tyson and others may have been able to beat him.He was cursed(or blessed)to be in a weak heavyweight era.I don't think most rational people hold that against him.Everyone's entitled to their opinion obviously,but most boxing historians and boxing enthusiast's alike rank Marciano pretty high.That's really all that matters to me. agree.............though I do wonder if he was met with a young Foreman, when he (Rocky) was 31, what Marciano would of done

Rocky faced and beat every heavyweight contender from his era(washed up or not).He never avoided anyone!It's not like Ali,Foreman,Etc were around at the time and he ran scared.I don't think it's fair to shit on the man because guys like Tyson and others may have been able to beat him.He was cursed(or blessed)to be in a weak heavyweight era.I don't think most rational people hold that against him.Everyone's entitled to their opinion obviously,but most boxing historians and boxing enthusiast's alike rank Marciano pretty high.That's really all that matters to me.

this bears repeating. I know more about boxin than you. I have tons of tapes of old fights and i have studied them. PERIOD

He shouldn't be removed from the Hall of Fame, but he is overrated.

Dear Biased Fuckhead, Shut up and stop talking about boxing... because you suck at it. Disrespectfully yours, TheEvilSaint P.S. its marciano, not sloppiano P.S.S. he was a HW by past standards, which means, he was still a HW... dir. this bears repeating.

Welcome to my ignore list. Your opinion does not matter to me. good riddence

Welcome to my ignore list. Your opinion does not matter to me.

Rocky DOES belong in the HOF. Don't like people doing down the great fighters and icons of the past. He was the HW champ of the world for 4 years and was never beaten. God Bless. youd be unbeaten too if all you fought were old men and lightheavys

Rocky DOES belong in the HOF. Don't like people doing down the great fighters and icons of the past. He was the HW champ of the world for 4 years and was never beaten. God Bless.

I already explained the truth to you. Look in the early pages of the thread for my post to learn something about boxing history, a subject I am hereby giving you an F in.

We've already gone over this. The red didn't cheat, you're just a fucking moron who's never seen the fight. Fuck off, eat a dick, and stop spamming this forum with your shitty threads. read the history books watch old footage of the fight the ref gave an illegal 8 count when archie knock sloppiano down. you dont know your boxing history

For the record I do think Tyson would be the favorite against Marciano, though I wouldn't bet on him with Marciano's punch and heart and Tyson's lack of confidence in himself when things got ugly. Still, if you put a gun to my head I would admit that statistically Tyson has quite a few advantages over the Rock.