greatest amatuer ever

Muhammad Ali was 100-8, winning the AAU LHW title, AAU HW title, The Nat. Golden Gloves in 1959 and 1960, and the 1960 LHW Olympic Gold Medal in Rome, that says it all. My vote is for him.

Sugar Ray Robinson was NOT unbeaten as an amateur......... When discussing the greatest amateurs they always say ray was unbeaten...he was not. . in his autobiography he talks about losing to Billy Graham. Also Robinson was a LOCAL aateur... Mark Breland was the most DOMINANT amateur ever. On the WORLD level.

while we are talking about amateurs tho i gotta give reps to mario cesar kindelan mesa too. his sister married an englishman who lives in my city, before he fought amir khan for the third time i had the pleasure of meeting him and getting his autograph. altough he dont speak a word of english we spoke for about 15 mins about who he liked in the pro ranks. i was suprised at the way he spoke of joel casamayor as i thought he would respect what his fellow countryman had done. but he seemed to think he had lost alot and kept saying "no love" "no love" i have to say i was humbled by his knowledge not just of the fighters but of there styles too. a true gentleman who i biasedly will place top of the list!!

when were are talking about great amateurs i think we have gotta mention the great felix savon. check out this guys fights! http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/savon.html he beat some damn good fighters along the way to winning three olympic golds. and im sure that some of the more knowlageable posters like k-dogg yogi or greyfist. may correct me here but was it not savon who while a possible fight with tyson was being mooted by don king said... "what is ten million dollars compared to the love of ten million people"

Is it true that Foreman defeated Teofilo in the amateur? Jorge Gonzalez, the fat guy we saw flop against Riddick Bowe and Tim Witherspoon, beat Stevenson 4 times in the amateurs. I know Nick Acevedo and his brother were great amateur fighters in NY, probably the best amateur brother duo in New York history.

Joan Guzman was 310-10 and Pan American Games champion. Mohammed Abdullaev had an excellent amateur career winning top tourament s and capturing gold in the Olympics. I think the best amateur was probably De La Hoya. He had a great record, won all kinds of tournaments, and was an olympic gold medalists.

24 or 25 fights you sure you are not getting that mixed up with Tyson's amatuer career...I think Mike's was 24-3...I thought I heard George said he had about 17 amatuer fights, that's what makes his accomplishment of winning the title so impressive If you can find some info and post, please do so

"I think professional boxing is inhumane." - Teofilo Stevenson Amatuer boxing is different then pro boxing

I heard he himself didnt want to fight as pro. "I think professional boxing is inhumane." - Teofilo Stevenson

Thanks for the history lesson Yogi. :) Good K for that. Not a problem, my friend, and thanks for the K. Somebody else who might figure into the equation as one of the very best amateurs of all-time is Dick McTaggart, who won Olympic gold in 1956, and along the way compiled an absolutely incredible record of 610 wins against only 24 losses... 610 wins! :eek:

Oscar de la Hoya's amateur carrer. 223-5.

302-22 . . Three times Olympic champion (Munich 1972 - Montreal 1976 - Moscú 1980) three times world champion (La Habana 1974 - Belgrado 1978 - Reno 1986) seven times panamerican champion (México 1975 - San Juan 1979) seven time champion from center and south america... thats very decent...

Teofilo Stevenson's amateur record; http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/stevenson.html 302-22 . .

Teofilo Stevenson's amateur record; http://www.geocities.com/pedrinet/stevenson.html

Is it true that Foreman defeated Teofilo in the amateur? i wouldnt think so too much of an age difference

Is it true that Foreman defeated Teofilo in the amateur? No, Foreman & Stevenson never fought as amateurs, as Teo was only 16 years old when Foreman won his Olympic title in '68. Duane Bobick did defeat Stevenson once, though...at the 1971 Pan American Games held in Columbia. Also, the immortal Craig Payne holds a decision win over Stevenson (Sept of 1983), as he does a decision win over Mike Tyson (March of 1983).

There is many cubans in cuba that are pro Catro. I heard he himself didnt want to fight as pro. he didnt want to because it was outlawed if it wasnt he would have turned pro and not the pro-drunk he became

Teofilo Stevenson.... too bad he never turned pro, FUCK YOU FIDEL There is many cubans in cuba that are pro Catro. I heard he himself didnt want to fight as pro.

George Foreman, only about 17 fights, and won the Gold Medal...mabye not really a consideration as a "great" in terms of skill, but that's hard to do in my opinion...this was also a time where it was real fighting, not that pity-pat nonsense. 24 or 25 fights

George Foreman, only about 17 fights, and won the Gold Medal...mabye not really a consideration as a "great" in terms of skill, but that's hard to do in my opinion...this was also a time where it was real fighting, not that pity-pat nonsense.