Sparring stories..

Oh sorry if i got it wrong. Alot of the stories about ali have several different versions. Mostly because ali over exadurated alot of the time. But if you have a more accurate accounnt id like to hear it. Larry Holmes...Hanging out at Deer Lake for almost two years gave me a chance to see that lots of really talented fighters don't get any where. Most guys just pick up a few hundred bucks here and there . A degree of luck, I knew , I could make a big difference in a fighter's career. To know you have talent,if only to get a chance, and to be denied the chance ...well that can sour a man. A fighter's time is brief. If he doesn't move up the ranks, he stagnates. mentaly and physically . A case of use it or lose it . Belive me , that can make qa man bitter. Very bitter. I saw it up close and personal with another of Ali's sparring partners, Roy Williams. Big Roy Willams was six foot five, 240 pounds and couls punch holes in people. But he was a fighter who never gotten the breaks., a fighter who never had the sport's power brokers to maneuver him. The better fighters knew how tough he was and avoided him. Why take the chance ? Because he was a unknown , beating Roy Williams wouldn't advance your reputation. And there was a damn good chance that if the man landed on the button, you'd end up in orbit.Talk about bitter .WOOO-BOY! Roy was nasty bitter. In camp , he hung by himself and had a permanent scowl on his face . One time when he'd finally gotten a match , Id gone to it and , from ringside ,was rooting him on. And ole Roy had turned to me in the midst of the fight and from the ring shouted "Shut the %$&^ up !" UNbelivable. But that was Roy Williams . Never happy perpetually pissed off about something, usualy money. The breaking point in his relationship with Ali came in Zaire, where Muhammad shocked the world by knocking out George Foreman. The night of the fight , Williams was to have been on the undercard against Henry Clark, and arrangments had been made for him to go to the arena with Ali and his group.But when Ali was late getting to the arena the Williams fight was scratched and with it went $5,000 big Roy was assured of. As he saw it , since Ali screwed things up, Ali was obliged to come up with the five grand . "Give me the GD money,punk" He told him, Back at Deer Lake . Ali tried to ignore him, but Roy wouldn't let up, so Ali decided to exact revenge in the ring . He ordered a 10 round workout-The Bossman Vs The angry hired hand. For Roy Williams ,no problem. " I'm gonna kick your ass,chump!" he told Ali. They went at it ,hammer and tong. Ali was trying his best to knock the man out . But Williams was giving as good as he got . And after every round ,he's growl: "$%$^^$ ,punk %$##$ I'll kick your ass." Ali tried the rope a dope with Williams coming off the ropes with a flurry of punches . But Roy met him and slammed him back . It was a hell of a session. And afterward , there was Roy Williams graring and muttering " $!#$#, punk $$$$$ !" Ali wasn't satisfied. He called for another 10 rounds the next day . .Roy ate good ,slept good. And the next day he stood toe to toe with the heavyweight champion of the world . Well,that was enough for Ali . He gave Big Roy his five grand and dismissed him-fired his ass . Roy Williams was a bitter , bitter man , and it wasn't hard to see why . I felt as tough I was in the same bag - a fighter who could easily get lost in the shuffle . ......from by Larry Holmes...........

It might be Roy Williams that you are thinking of but it didn't go down like you said . I could type up some of what Larry Holmes says about it if you want . Oh sorry if i got it wrong. Alot of the stories about ali have several different versions. Mostly because ali over exadurated alot of the time. But if you have a more accurate accounnt id like to hear it.

paul spadafora beating up on floyd mayweather a few years back. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhK1ZnnmN7A

I could type up some of what Larry Holmes says about it if you want . Do it.....

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=James+Toney+ This is rd 3...just click the link above

james toney (225 approx) and danny green (175 approx) went 7 hard rounds at freddies gym. green has not been the same fighter ever since... he took a beating. I heard that too.

I read that muhammad ali sparred with one of angelo dundees fighters ( i think it was floyed paterson and if not him it was the heavy weight champ at the time) when he was only 16 and completly embarassed him. So much so that angelo dundee actualy stopped the sparring mach because he thought his fighter may get hurt. It might be Roy Williams that you are thinking of but it didn't go down like you said . I could type up some of what Larry Holmes says about it if you want .

james toney (225 approx) and danny green (175 approx) went 7 hard rounds at freddies gym. green has not been the same fighter ever since... he took a beating.

Can't remember the guys name, but he knocked out Sonny Liston in sparring...I think it was after the Ali fights, so Liston wasn't in his "prime"...if anybody can think of his name, post i heard that wasnt true. Not sure where but i remember somebody telling me that it was complety made up.

Can't remember the guys name, but he knocked out Sonny Liston in sparring...I think it was after the Ali fights, so Liston wasn't in his "prime"...if anybody can think of his name, post

I read that muhammad ali sparred with one of angelo dundees fighters ( i think it was floyed paterson and if not him it was the heavy weight champ at the time) when he was only 16 and completly embarassed him. So much so that angelo dundee actualy stopped the sparring mach because he thought his fighter may get hurt.

Junior Witter apparently got the better of Naseem Hamed in body-sparring when Junior was very new to the Wincobank.

paul spadafora beating up on floyd mayweather a few years back.

Tell me some good sparring stories, man. Here are some.. Tyson dropping Lennox Lewis inside 60 seconds when they were teenagers, then Lennox getting up and running away for the rest of the week he stayed at Catskills. G-Man out-boxing Sugar Ray Leonard and Michael Moorer on the same night on his first-ever day at Kronk. Evander Holyfield and Oliver McCall refusing to spar with G-Man because he hit too hard. Eubank dropping Bomber Graham for the first time in his life (just before Bomber fought McCallum), but then Bomber getting up and Eubank not able to lay a glove on him for the rest of the session. Reggie Johnson getting the better of Roy Jones in Pensacola in the fall of '91. Tyson getting beaten up by sparring partners before he fought Douglas. Naz getting beaten up by sparring partners before he fought Barrera. Hatton dropped by a body shot from former British champ Pat Barrett when he was 15 (he'd never been so hurt from one punch and it gave him inspiration to introdude body punching into his style). Sam Soliman claiming that Kostya Tszyu hit harder than middleweights. Tell me more.. Just remember, sparring is only sparring but... Daniel Santos used to take Tito to school every time they sparred. In prep for the Mayorga fight, DLH had a closed gym workout and there was some young pro Giovanni something, Mayweather Sr. saw him hitting the mitts and decided to move them around, well that kid beat the fuck out of DLH, DLH wanted to sign him but the kid is too irresponsible and the deal didn't go any further.

That seems quite unlikely. I think it probably has more to do with Holyfield just not agreeing with the sparring they did at Kronk (ie wars).

Who in the UK isn't obsessed with Benn and Eubank :D

Juy Juy??????????????????????? Juy Juy has about 30 alts on this website, his original, as well as his second alt have both been banned, and about 15 of his minor alts have been banned as well. He is a delusional poster who is obsessed with the UK, Chris Eubank and Nigel Benn.

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Most of these stories are illusions of Juy Juy, and never actully happened.

Funny Tyson story: I have to go back and watch the documentary for a fact check, but it goes like this...during training for one of Tyson's matches, they were picking guys for sparring...one guy was picked and got into the ring with Mike...the fight starts and the guy gets knocked out really quick...it turns out that the guy was just a fan from Canada trying to get an autograph or something. Mike felt bad so he gave him tickets.