We need to allow more clinching in boxing. And I'll tell you why!

I'm beginning to think he's someone here just to yank on peoples' chains. Anyone stupid enough to believe what he claims to would either be drooling in a nuthouse somewhere or serving his second term as President of the United States of America. I would hope so, but it is my experience with some "muscle-heads" that they become, not to sound harsh, but "Gayer" as they get bigger wit the use of steroids...it is really weird and I stay away...they tend to think because they are "big" they can all of a sudden fight...even with the Martial Arts guys, some say they would take out a Pro boxer like Tyson, Lewis, Foreman, without any trouble...they break wooden boards that my little sister can break, wear a "black" belt, and all of a sudden they are "lethal weapons"...you ask them, well why don't you just box and make millions? they respond, "I am not in it for the money, I train so I don't have to fight, I know I can kill them, that's all I need to know" :rolleyes:

No, because REAL FIGHTS (fighting as we know it was derived from street fighting) do not put emphasis on using miles of land or stamina. It comes down to who grapples who to the ground and breaks their neck. Your posts get more and more absurd! You're definitely trying to wind people up IMO. If not then post your crap somewhere else because this is not a streetfighting, UFC, MMA, wrestling, gay, or clinching forum. It is a boxing forum!

You guys are hitting this pretty much on the button. WTF is this guy talking about? LMAO! Rockin' :boxing: I'm beginning to think he's someone here just to yank on peoples' chains. Anyone stupid enough to believe what he claims to would either be drooling in a nuthouse somewhere or serving his second term as President of the United States of America.

But in a real fight the smaller man is punished BY NATURE. I'm trying to make boxing a more natural fight. yer a fuckiing f@ggot

It is extremely unfair to limit the bigger man's strength advantage by breaking these guys up too early. If you let the smaller man get away without having to deal with the bigger man's extra weight and strength, it gives him an unfair advantage. In boxing, you should be punished for your lack of size, not rewarded, else what message does this send out to the public? By limiting fighters in this way, you make it less of a REAL FIGHT. Boxing is not a REAL FIGHT as it is, we don't need to make matters worse. Let the big guys clinch away. You suck at posting. This is boxing.....not MMA. The rules don't allow someone to grapple and use their strength advantage because you're limited to punching people with gloves on. Never pay again for live sex! | Hot girls doing naughty stuff for free! | Chat for free!

The true "art" of holding http://youtube.com/watch?v=OrVyrSimXYs&mode=related&search=

the smaller guy already has a disadvantage than the bigger guy. why would you want the smaller guy to have more of a disadvantage by allowing the bigger guy to clich. this has to be the stupidest crap i've ever heard! Boxing is set by rules, if you allow one thing that isn't in the rules, why not another to make it fair...if you allow hugging by the taller guy, you must allow headbutts or a knee to the groin to counter it...this is in "Nature" of fighting so it is allowed.

But in a real fight the smaller man is punished BY NATURE. I'm trying to make boxing a more natural fight. No you are not, you want Brokeback boxing "Don't you quit me" http://www.bt.no/multimedia/archive/00236/brokeback_mountain__236425c.jpg

the smaller guy already has a disadvantage than the bigger guy. why would you want the smaller guy to have more of a disadvantage by allowing the bigger guy to clich. this has to be the stupidest crap i've ever heard!

Originally Posted by HEAVYWEIGHT BOX It is extremely unfair to limit the bigger man's strength advantage by breaking these guys up too early. If you let the smaller man get away without having to deal with the bigger man's extra weight and strength, it gives him an unfair advantage. In boxing, you should be punished for your lack of size, not rewarded, else what message does this send out to the public? By limiting fighters in this way, you make it less of a REAL FIGHT. Boxing is not a REAL FIGHT as it is, we don't need to make matters worse. Let the big guys clinch away. You must just be some steroid filled guy who can't fight.

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It is extremely unfair to limit the bigger man's strength advantage by breaking these guys up too early. If you let the smaller man get away without having to deal with the bigger man's extra weight and strength, it gives him an unfair advantage. In boxing, you should be punished for your lack of size, not rewarded, else what message does this send out to the public? By limiting fighters in this way, you make it less of a REAL FIGHT. Boxing is not a REAL FIGHT as it is, we don't need to make matters worse. Let the big guys clinch away. You are a very ignorant person. Nazis had that kind of a mentality, killing handicapped infants because they didn't deserve to live. I can't stand the way of think. I truly think you are an untalented, uneducated, unliked person who is physically bigger than average. So the only thing going for you is your size and emphasize on it too much. Your agrument is not only ignorant but also FALSE. If any of you have seen the first few UFC championships, then you know that Royce Gracy (or however you spell it) was i think the smallest guy in the tournament and he beat guys twice his size and became the champion the first 3 tournaments. You couldn't get any closer to streetfighting than the early UFC tournaments. Also if you look at the Strongest Man tournament its not always the biggest guy winning.

No, because REAL FIGHTS (fighting as we know it was derived from street fighting) do not put emphasis on using miles of land or stamina. It comes down to who grapples who to the ground and breaks their neck. Not every fight is able to go to the ground, some fights are over within the first few seconds, with one punch...in highschool I saw a boxer (who came 2nd in the Golden Gloves), fight a wrestler, only to be disappointed because I blinked. The wrestler came in low, the boxer threw an uppercut, night. It's best for a fighter to be versatile, but sometimes it doesn't matter

You might as well say all fights should be fought in a huge 40 foot ring, as this allows agile fighters to have the best chance of victory, or make them fight in a 3 x 3 foot square so infighters have a big edge. Allowing excessive clinching is no more fair than any of these alternatives I've described. No, because REAL FIGHTS (fighting as we know it was derived from street fighting) do not put emphasis on using miles of land or stamina. It comes down to who grapples who to the ground and breaks their neck.

You might as well say all fights should be fought in a huge 40 foot ring, as this allows agile fighters to have the best chance of victory, or make them fight in a 3 x 3 foot square so infighters have a big edge. Allowing excessive clinching is no more fair than any of these alternatives I've described.

Ur an idiot man.

DAMN this kid is an idiot! who would watch 12 rounds of clinching? somebody that likes their men "BIG", "STRONG", and looks at himself in the mirror, while acting out the scene from "The Silence of the Lambs"

It is extremely unfair to limit the bigger man's strength advantage by breaking these guys up too early. If you let the smaller man get away without having to deal with the bigger man's extra weight and strength, it gives him an unfair advantage. In boxing, you should be punished for your lack of size, not rewarded, else what message does this send out to the public? By limiting fighters in this way, you make it less of a REAL FIGHT. Boxing is not a REAL FIGHT as it is, we don't need to make matters worse. Let the big guys clinch away. you havent seen any Ruiz fights have you, I'd rather beat off with a cheese shredder than watch that lame ass shit. I've seen thousands of fights in my time and after seeing 1 Ruiz fight I didnt think it could be true a fighter who wins by holding??How so I decided to watch him again and it was boring as the first one and he won then saw the a third fight of his and vowed never to watch the sport of clinching again. If they allowed more clinching every fight would be like a Ruiz fight and I would be forced to watch UFC........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

I see that I have schooled you kid. Just admit it - don't take the cowards way out. Look, I know that most boxing fans are tiny - some wouldn't even be heavyweights, and therefore it makes them feel more adeqaute if they believe that a tiny man can beat a big man. They think to themselves "I will not get beat up by the man sized men. Hooray! I can beat them down!" :rolleyes: Of course they are clinically delusional, and every normal person would just laugh at them, but they NEED to hold on to it. They are just inadequate male speciman's...........sorry. Again, I put it to you............why doesn't Floyd Mayweather fight at HW? He is supposed to be the best fighter in the world (or there abouts), no? In a real fight the bigger man does not necessarily win. Size can be a factor, and in boxing, where everyone is supposed to be skilled in fighting, we neutralize that factor by divided weights in increments of 5-8 pounds. but in a real fight, it is often the case that the difference in skill is much wider than is possible among trained fighters, so size differences can again be cancelled. Give me a 150 pounder who knows how to fight over a 200 pounder who doesn't, anyday. I bet Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquaio could kick your ass, even though it would be unfair to match them against James Toney or Wlad Klitschko

Well, when boxing goes extinct because the public view it as too effeminate, you might just change your mind. Too effeminate? You think that's the problem with boxing's image?