cotto vs collazo in december?

you're right it probably won't happen because of the arum-king relationship. but this fight in december in ny, will be a little crazy. a ny rican against a true puerto rican, in the big apple. collazo was suppose to fight in the undercard of barret and valuev, but now he's not, so the rumor is now the december fight against cotto.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=89079

if cotto takes this fight and loses i hope hatton will start to get the credit for beating collazo on a very bad night

Well, I'm not even going to bother. I can't be bothered with you.

^^ That is my point if you re-read my post. I said I dont know if he hasn't used those skills that he previously demonstrated because he could just bull his way through 99% of his competition, hence not needing to use it for so long he will just have to re-polish it a get back to fundamentals in camp. Or another possibility is that it looked more impressive against lesser competition and that it wont be affective versus better competition. I just haven't seen Hatton look as polished as someone like Castillo who to me appears to be a more skilled aggressive fighter. I dont consider Cotto a swarmer, I think of him more like a Corrales type boxer puncher who often mixes it up. Cotto has good talent, fights well going backwards, has good power and has shown these abilities versus D and recently C/C+. This is the reason why I pick Cotto to beat Collazo. I haven't seen anything but aggressive inside fighting swarmer in the last couple of years. That has been enough against C level competition and older fighters who couldn't take the relentless pressure of Hatton. I just believe that young B level fighters will give Hatton problems and that A level fighters will beat him.

Hatton hasn't needed to use all of his boxing skills yet. I've seen footage of some of his amateur bouts in Bulgaria and I've seen him in the gym, and there is a lot that he hasn't shown or even needed to show. Hatton was percieved as being a skill-less brawler in the amateurs, it's because he was just able to blow away all opposition at national level and people didn't get to see his 'boxing' skills (when he fought internationally, he was forced to use his 'boxing' skills), but Paul Dunn (of the Sale West ABC) knew he was special after witnessing him out-box British champ Andy Holligan in the gym when he was 15. When Hatton first visited Billy Graham's gym in the summer of '96, Billy put him in there with Ensley Bingham and Steve Foster Jr and Ricky pretty much did as he pleased with them - Billy knew there and then that the kid was a very special talent and nothing like he was percieved. It's still the same, and it's been like that all through his career. It really annoys me. The guy can do so much in that ring, and has shown on many occasions in his fights glimpses of his mastery, yet people either ignore it or just don't know what their looking for.

i see this fight for what it is ... a solid cotto win followed by floods of threads on how hattons win was much better and how hatton would destroy cotto because during the 2nd round the opponet hit cotto and cotto blinked so obviously hes got a soft chin and is ripe for an asswhoopin please fools cotto is gonna destroy this guy just like he would hatton

Ask Hatton. Doesn't sound like a good idea to have a very good short distance fighter grabbing. Hatton has a different style.

Why should he grab instead of punching? Ask Hatton.

Cotto doesnt grab enough to beat Collazo. Why should he grab instead of punching?

Well, Hatton's got the better of the best amateurs in the world and the best professionals in the world. He's never lost at junior-welter in his life. I think it's nationalistic. Oh, I know that however I just dont see those skills when he is against good fighters. I dont see the Hatton versus Tackie in many other fights. If its something that he has chosen not to do or if its a skill set that has gone rusty due to it not being needed against 99% of his competition I dont know. However while is not a dazzling slick boxer he has shown an ability to be a boxer puncher versus decent D-C+ level competition.

Collazo isn't very good. The guy had free hits for 12 rounds in his last fight and still lost.. Cotto will be a Beast at 147, with no more killing himself to make weight. Cotto doesnt grab enough to beat Collazo.

Cotto loses this fight easy. Collazo isn't very good. The guy had free hits for 12 rounds in his last fight and still lost.. Cotto will be a Beast at 147, with no more killing himself to make weight.

Cotto loses this fight easy.

Well, Hatton's got the better of the best amateurs in the world and the best professionals in the world. He's never lost at junior-welter in his life. I think it's nationalistic.

You really do have issues. ROFL.....me? If your referring to my Hatton stuff yeah I admit it. Its just the hyping him up that put me off to him a bit. I like him as a fighter but I see him as Gatti-like in which his heart compensates for many of his diffencies. I also believe that Hatton has gotten the most out of his god given talent. Yeah, he has more talent than Gatti but, I just think that when he steps up against Elite fighters he will lose and when he steps up against good fighters he will struggle. Thats it in a nutshell. As far as Cotto is concerned I think Zab, Quintana and PBF would be the harder fights for him than Margarito, Williams or Collazo. Boxers with solid power will be difficult for Cotto. Collazo has shown a tendancy to stand flat footed at times.

You really do have issues.

Cotto would win this fight. Collazo is good but is over estimated by his performance against Hatton. Hatton just isn't that great and will struggle against any good competition like Collazo. With that said, Cotto will be at a more comfortable weight for him and has much better boxing skills than Hatton. Cotto has also faced slick southpaws and has done well against them. Cotto would've KO'd Malignagi if he had not hurt his hand. Cotto by mid-round KO however I would prefer to see Cotto versus Williams or Margarito.

Cotto would anihilate Collazo.

So much speculation about Cotto's Dec. 2 foe, but I fear it will not be as good a fighter as Collazo. Harris is an option because the Urkal fight fell apart as did Harris' latest bout. However, Arum vs. Shaw (re: Corrales-Castillo III) will probably prevent it. Collazo is not likely because it would require another Arum-Don King co-promotion and this card is all about Top Rank. I don't expect the Don to sell off Collazo for one night in a fight that King can't promote himself. However, it would make alot of sense for Collazo because nobody wants to fight him--what other big fights, hell, what other fights, period, are out there for him? And he could win the fight and become a star. Cotto's opponent will probably end up being the other Clottey because nothing else will be worked out with the time frame and money limitations that a Showtime card (with Margarito also on the bill) present.