Did Zab Ruin Floyd?

DLT19y ago

I made a thread after Zab lost to Baldy that Zab just ruined everything and everything is fucked up now no matter what happeneds. Floyd had alot of haters then but none of them could deny him. No one was really criticizing him at all and everyone was talking about how Floyd-Zab was going to be a Super Fight. If Zab does what he's supposed to do and beats Baldy then no one is ripping Floyd right now excetpt for the fact of pure hate. Everyone would be talking about how great he is and how he broke down another great fighter in Zab. No one would be ripping him except for the pure few haters. Also people would be giving credit to his resume, saying how he just beat another elite fighter in Zab and how Floyd has beaten some top guys. Is this not true? But what happened? Zab's dumbass loses to Baldy & Floyd fights him anyway. Since then Floyd has got killed. However, now Floyd took the next step and is fighting the guy who beat Zab and he's still getting killed. Dont deny this. I dont remember seeing any threads plain out ripping Floyd before the Zab fight. Alot of guys hated him because of his personality but they knew they couldnt say anything. Floyd still fights Zab and you guys rip him. Maybe its rightfully so but now Floyd is fighting Baldy so whats the problem? Dude is hated like no one ever and its because of his personality but that still shouldnt change the fact of how great of a fighter he is. If Zab beats Baldy then Floyd beats Zab, then Floyd calls out Shane & Oscar like he has, no one wouldve been ripping him. They would be talking about how great he is and how he wants to fight the best. They would also be talking about how Hatton turned him down. Some people would bring up that he should fight Margarito but it would be normal talk. It wouldnt be any big deal. The Zab loss changed everything. Be truthful about it. My point also is that if the Zab loss did change everything and you guys then got mad at Floyd for fighting Zab then how can you still rip him now for the Baldy fight? Also by Zab losing, it takes all the credit away from Floyd. That Zab win is still a super win but Floyd will never ever get credit for that fight & they now put Zab on the garbage list. People forget how high Zab was rated after the Spinks win. Be truthful, you would be looking at Floyd differently right now if Zab had beat Baldy like he was supposed to.

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bakey321

then I would say Floyd is the welterweight champ and a legit 3 weight division world champion (not 4 ;)) I've asked this question a million times to guys who bash Floyd, so I have to ask you. Who would you like to see Floyd fight? Who would he have to beat to earn your respect? DLH, Mosley, Spinks, Hatton, Cotto, Winky, Williams/Margarito? I've noticed that the same guys who hate Floyd have no idea who he should fight either, so that they don't have to give him his props no matter what.

19y ago

bakey321

People hate Floyd because he is cocky and black. This is the truth. Same with T.O. same with Randy Moss same with insert black athlete that is great who is cocky here _____________. TRUTH Don't pull the race card. People hate T.O because he is a selfish, arrogant egotistical prick playing a TEAM sport. Yes, Floyd is the same way, but he is in the ring by himself not 10 teammates and Floyd has always given credit to his staff. TO, Artest, and Bonds are all hated because they are willing to fuck anybody over if it helps them. Moss was hated for the same thing, now that he hasn't had any incidents in a while people haven't said shit about him. Don't pull the bullshit race card because the people that hate TO love McNabb, hate Artest love DWade, Hate Bonds love Pujols.

19y ago

raymon123

You are correct. I am not one to say who is good or not. Tszyu, Spinks, Floyd, Baldomir, Millet, Bergman, Corley etc etc. all decided for me how much of a chump Judah is. :) Oh yeah, and you're looking at this Floyd - Judah shit with blinkers on again. Baldomir was an OBVIOUS set up...the biggest set up i've seen in a while. He was supposed to lose. THe funny thing was how Judah lost to him. And like I said Floyd legitimized Judah when he is always talkiung about "oh what has he done to get a shot with me". And like I said, Morales has been in wars for about 8 years now. He was dominated by Raheem, but so what. Pac and Morales had beef and they went throwback and went at it. Gave us a good fight while they were at it too. Floyd does the opposite. What Floyd does is shoot his mouth off about his p4p title like it's a legitimate belt or something and slags off guys who haven't done much in the sport and he wont fight htem. He completely contradicts himself and fights a bum in Judah (yes he is a bum, FYI). Oh, and smart guy...tell me who Pac can fight at 126? Tell me who Floyd can fight at 147-154? ANd fool...I just called Baldomir legitimate becuase that's what exactly is. 2 great underdog wins in his opponents hometown...thats shit that real champions do. Baldomir is real and I like him. Floyd - Baldomir is a LEGITIMATE fight. Get it now? Oh yeah and the reason Floyd gets ripped on so much is because of his cocky attitude and all of the uninformed stupid shit he says. He claims to be a gangster when he was hustled pretty bad by Filthy Rich records. He has the biggest ego in all of sportsa nd people love to hate him just like they love to hate T.O. Learn to deal with it. ANd on more thing... Hatton UD12 Floyd at 140 Margarito KO Floyd 8 at 147 Any legitimate champ minus Spinks UD12 Floyd at 154 Winky KO Floyd 8 at 154 :boxing: ;) Hatton ud over floyd at 140 pounds???? lolol sure. Floyd would make hatton look like a fool i promise you on that. Floyd would beat spinks. Margarito has a puncher chance but he's too wide open to get hit so floyd would easily decision margarito. So tell me you said you like baldimor and you said baldo proves he's legit well if floyd beats baldo then what you going to say about floyd?

19y ago

raymon123

Your a fool who is just a straight up hater and will find away to hate on Floyd no matter what and look the other way. Why did Pac just fight Larios then? How come Pac is begging for rematches against Morales & MAB, after he just already killed them? If Floyd was begging for rematches against Chico & Gatti then everyone would say its a joke. All these guys do is retread opponents. What do you think about Baldy, is he not legitimate? Who the Fuck do you like anyway. Fucking MAB & Morales are overrated anyway just because there Mexican. No one was crying when Barrera was fighting 50 year old guys like Tapia & Kelley on PPV. Barrera has fought a bunch of cupcakes. People make Rocky and these guys out to be so great when everyone knows Rocky really lost to Raheem and he lost to Soto. Those fighters down there get so much respect for the most bull shit wins Ive ever seen. Fucking Morales has a life & death struggle with a one arm Chaves and people think he did something. If Chaves had 2 arms, Morales wouldve lost that fight. People talk about how great JMM looked in his last fight. Dude got hit so much, got his eye split open, and looked like garbage until the end but people brag on him. Let Floyd do any of that shit and watch how he gets ripped, by little girls like you Ok i agree with most of your post except the one you said that morales and barrera is overrated cause they are not overrated. Barrera alot of great champions the same with morales. Lets be real pac big win and only true big win was against barrera cause he beat morales after morales already lost a fight. If ppl don't give floyd his props for easily beating zab after zab lost a fight then why should ppl give pac his props by beating morales after morales already lost a fight? i think thats unfair.

19y ago

raymon123

19y ago

TheBlackWallStreet

Shut the Fuck up, clown. Who the Fuck are you to say who is good or not? There are still alot of damn people who think Zab is a very good fighter. What makes you be able to say if someone is good or not? Zab got beat by Tszyu? So fucking what. There both good fighters and one of them has to lose, dont they. Alot of people think that if Tszyu doesnt have the win over Zab then his career is nothing special. He got KO by Vince Phillips and doesnt have any good wins except for Zab. Is he a bum? Alot of people still wanted to see the Floyd-Zab fight. Floyd legitamizes the fight but what, he's not supposed to? Is Pac legitmazing this fight with Morales? How the Fuck does Morales get a fight with Pac after just being KTFO and completely shcooled & shutout in his previous fight? You dont make no sense. People just hate on Floyd. Again, he is fighting Baldy in his very next fight so what is the problem now? People hate Floyd because he is cocky and black. This is the truth. Same with T.O. same with Randy Moss same with insert black athlete that is great who is cocky here _____________. TRUTH

19y ago

DLT

Where's the double standard, moron. EM and Pac both are fighting the best and not handpicking opponents. Floyd is not and that's what everyones beef with him is. EM and Pac aren't going around calling themselves "the p4p champ" (yeah, like its a legitimate thing to call yourself all the time) and EM already beat Pac. Pac was fighting him for redemption and to even up the series. I don't see your points. THere is no double standard. There would be if Pac/Em acted like Clowns just like Floyd does. ;) Your a fool who is just a straight up hater and will find away to hate on Floyd no matter what and look the other way. Why did Pac just fight Larios then? How come Pac is begging for rematches against Morales & MAB, after he just already killed them? If Floyd was begging for rematches against Chico & Gatti then everyone would say its a joke. All these guys do is retread opponents. What do you think about Baldy, is he not legitimate? Who the Fuck do you like anyway. Fucking MAB & Morales are overrated anyway just because there Mexican. No one was crying when Barrera was fighting 50 year old guys like Tapia & Kelley on PPV. Barrera has fought a bunch of cupcakes. People make Rocky and these guys out to be so great when everyone knows Rocky really lost to Raheem and he lost to Soto. Those fighters down there get so much respect for the most bull shit wins Ive ever seen. Fucking Morales has a life & death struggle with a one arm Chaves and people think he did something. If Chaves had 2 arms, Morales wouldve lost that fight. People talk about how great JMM looked in his last fight. Dude got hit so much, got his eye split open, and looked like garbage until the end but people brag on him. Let Floyd do any of that shit and watch how he gets ripped, by little girls like you

19y ago

DLT

Shut the fuck up for a second. You are legitimizing Floyds decision to fight Zab. You are stupid as fuck. Here I'll enlighten ya: Don King promotes Judah. Judah gets knocked down a bunch of times by medicore fighters, gets KTFO against Tszyu and his career is over. ....then he resurects his career with the help of Don King matching him up against feather dusters and he fights Spinks. He loses, his career is done. But oh yes wait he then beats Spinks in very exciting fashion where you see Zab explosive and skilled. So he fights Baldomir which is an OBVIOUS set up. A 9 loss 'novice' with 8 KO's. Sounds great don't it? Sounds like an easy win for Zab, right...especially in his hometown. Wrong. Zab fucks that fight up and then Floyd jumps on him. Floyd takes the fight because he is a money hungry punk whereas Zab takes even lesser of the purse. Floyd then legitimizes the fight by fighting for Zab's IBF belt (which was bullshit how he got it) and calls Zab a great champion and all of that. THe main beef I have with that is that Floyd legitimizes everything even calling Zab a good fighter and all of that. That is just plain BS. Shut the Fuck up, clown. Who the Fuck are you to say who is good or not? There are still alot of damn people who think Zab is a very good fighter. What makes you be able to say if someone is good or not? Zab got beat by Tszyu? So fucking what. There both good fighters and one of them has to lose, dont they. Alot of people think that if Tszyu doesnt have the win over Zab then his career is nothing special. He got KO by Vince Phillips and doesnt have any good wins except for Zab. Is he a bum? Alot of people still wanted to see the Floyd-Zab fight. Floyd legitamizes the fight but what, he's not supposed to? Is Pac legitmazing this fight with Morales? How the Fuck does Morales get a fight with Pac after just being KTFO and completely shcooled & shutout in his previous fight? You dont make no sense. People just hate on Floyd. Again, he is fighting Baldy in his very next fight so what is the problem now?

19y ago

DLT

Shut the fuck up for a second, please. And yes you are right Zab did kill Floyd. The thing that really killed Floyd that you conveniently FORGET was Floyd choosing to still fight Zab and claiming how Zab wasn't "at his best" and claiming Zab was a legitimate opponent. He was not. Shut up Bitch. Did you read the whole article. OK, he still fought Zab. So? He's fighting Baldy in the very next fight so whats the problem now? Thats what Im saying. Im also saying that pretty much everyone thinks that Zab didnt even show up for the Baldy fight but it was still really close and alot of guys still think Zab won even though he looked shitty. Zab is still a good win in my book and brought his A game against Floyd. Its like if Floyd loses to someone now, does that mean he sucks and still isnt a tough opponent for the next guy. People talk about how great the old days were but guys used to lose all the time in the old days and still fight top guys and the oppents were given credit for it. If Pac loses to EM and someone fights Pac, does that mean that they shouldnt be fighting Pac and he's a bum? EM just got killed in back to back fights by Raheem & Pac but no one is ripping Pac for fighting him. Pac just fought a Larios who also just recently lost but no one is ripping Pac. Its a double standard. Anyways none of that should matter because in his very next fight Floyd is fighting the guy who just beat Zab, so whats the problem now, asshole?

19y ago

RAESAAD

Zab would fuck up a wet dream.........

19y ago