There probally have already been threads about this but I havent read them. Are you guys ok with this? I think Pac should be cool with it because it can also help him gradualy move up to 135 if he so chooses. Pac should still win anyway
I think Pacquiao is going to knock Morales out again as well but I hope there is no excuses for Pacquiao if he happens to loses. You do remember Pacquiao came with alot of excuses after the first fight don't you?
yes i agree. A cut is a cut in boxing either way you look at it. Saying that is the reason why he lost the first fight along with the glove thing is an excuse. Morales won plain and simple just like Pac won fair and square in the rematch.
I cant wait for the third fight. :D
2 lbs wont make the difference.
I like and respect both Erik and Manny.
I am more of an Erik and MAB fan than I am a PAC fan but that does not blind me of PacMans greatness. Pacman is a tremendous warrior. He is on my P4P tops. I am gonna have to go with Pacman and his magic reyes gloves again. I am hoping this is a war but I hope neither fighter is seriously hurt. I think Pacman is too much of a gentleman in the ring. I wish he was more of meanie. That just shows what a good guy he is.
That was the Pacquiao camp's fault. The had plenty of time to turn in the blood samples but waited until the last minute.
Blood samplers????? Explain it please...........
dont get me wrong aint talkin bout u loui
but there are pac fans who think he beats , everyone he coul fight etc
i know there are every fighter has delusional fans
True, true.............
Back to the topic of the weight issue at 132. Pac said he will still fight Erik if EM weigh is at 132. But is it okay with Erik and in boxing world(history) to fight and win against Pac if weighs in at 132?
Lets look at the Corrales-Castillo 2nd fight. Castillo did not make the weight limit but the fight still went on and he KO'ed Chico. But the victory wasn't much talk about or giving credit to JLC due to him not making weight and an advantage over Chico.
With Pac stating that EM can fight at 132, there has to be some pressure on Erik. EM want's to leave a great legacy when he finally retires, but even with a 2nd win over Pac at 132, the boxing world will question if those 2 extra pounds help him defeat Pac. Even if EM tries to make 130 but come in at 132, there will be the question if did he do enough to try to lose weight or was he doing a Castillo.
ferocity dont try arguin with pac nuthuggers they are the most delusional fans today
Nothing againnst u bro, but there are some Morales and JMM nuthuggers that are delusional also.
Some Morales nuthuggers saying EM will KO Pac in the 3rd fight while EM can't even do it in the first fight where Pac had a cut which limited his vision on one of his eyes. EM might KO some fighters, but he can't KO top fighters such as Barrera, Pac, and Jesus Chavez.
Speaking of gloves...........
In a past interview of Barrera in Ring magazine, MAB said that when they fought(don't know which one), he said that the gloves will come from EM's camp. EM's camp presented the gloves to MAB and his team, it was a Reyes gloves, but according to MAB's team that everything on the outside appearance of the gloves, it was all Reyes, but the inside were Winning fabricated gloves that just had the Reyes gloves.
The first fight with Pac, EM wanted it in the contract that Pac has to wear Winning gloves.
The reason for Morales preferring Winning is cuz he has brittled hands and the padding helps him.
But why did the gloves had to come from Erik's camp for the gloves for Barrera? Why did Erik had to put it in the contract that Pac has to wear Winning on the 1st fight?
he is drained because he is not as desciplined as bernard Hopkins when it comes to eating.
nobody can beat the 60's ali
nobody can beat the late 80's ali
pac cant beat the prime morales
yadi yadi yadi
pls be objective oncein a while
Nothing against Pac fans, but some Pac fans need to become objective too.
Morales won because of Arum's mafia...
the gloves, blood samples....etc...
Morales became what he is today, not cuz of Arum's mafia, but of his heart and guts.
Can u explain the blood samples, never heard of that one.
I think he thinks that he may have had those recent losses because he is so drained from making weight. I bet he'd rather have the fight at 135 but he knows that Pac wont go for that. I think Morales is just older now but he is a tall guy who is older so the weight loss maybe getting to him and those 2 pounds can really help him.
he is drained because he is not as desciplined as bernard Hopkins when it comes to eating.
nobody can beat the 60's ali
nobody can beat the late 80's ali
pac cant beat the prime morales
yadi yadi yadi
pls be objective oncein a while
pac agreed to fight EM at a 132 catch weight but giving him 1mil..
2lbs wont make any difference the difference in the 2nd fight for me was the gloves that pac used..
Newsflash, they are fighting at 130 lbs. Morales will make weight and defeat pacquiao, guranteed!
If Pacquiao is a 106 pounder what that hell is he doing at 130lbs?
they complain of pac nuthuggers but this is extreme nuthugging uhuh uhuh ... :rolleyes:
if pacquio doesn't have a problem with it then nobody else should, and how is morales pickin on the smaller fighter, he lost his last fight with manny!
If morales can't make 130 anymore then thats what his doing, his picking on a smaller fighter who canmake the 130 limit. Morales has no bisiness fighting 130 fighters, you either move up to 135 or hang-up the gloves.
Pac maybe dumb enough to agree to give an extra 2lb but it dont mean everyone should be patting the greedy promoters for trying to make another castillo-corrales 2-3 fight when eveyone knows castillo/morales has no more business being in their old weight class.
Who are these smaller fighters he was picking on?
Lowey, Zaragoza, McCullough? Who? Not everybody is as a good as Morales was, picking on smaller fighters, now thats funny.
Who are these smaller fighters he was picking on?
-well pac aparantly cuz morales cant make 130 and needs the extra 2lb to fight a 130 fighter. his past fights ive never had a prob with cuz he made the weight for each of those fights but like I said before, if he cant make 130 then he either moves to 135 or hang up the gloves.
Newsflash, they are fighting at 130 lbs. Morales will make weight and defeat pacquiao, guranteed!
Why are you calling him a cheater and a coward? You are an arm chair boxer. You know nothing.
If Pacquiao is a 106 pounder what that hell is he doing at 130lbs? After weighing 130 he comes into the fight at 140. lbs, he is no small jr.lightweight, its a good story though. :rolleyes:
Remember this, when Morales moved up in weight EVERYBODY followed him!
the fight is at 132
The excuse about the problem with his manager Murad, it should not havet affected Pacquiao on the first fight, so i agree with u there.
But the cut on the top of Pac's eye is a fact. It affected him the rest of the fight. As far as the gloves, Pac is use to wearing Reyes gloves and Reyes is more known as a puncher gloves. So the gloves is a fact also. If not, then why did Morales has to put it into the contract that Pac has to wear Winning gloves. I am not saying that Pac would definitely be the winner in the 1st fight with Morales. The result could have been diffirent. Remember that the 1st fight was a contender for the fighter of the year, not because of just Erik, but becuz both of them, Erik outboxing Pac, but Pac fighting back with his so called one dimensional style. If there was no cut and wearing Reyes gloves, Pac could have won the fight, either by UD, SD, or KO(TKO). Or the fight could have been a draw.
But the fact is Erik Morales won and he won it fair and square.
Morales did win the fight fair and square so there shouldn't have been any excuses from Pacquiao or his hardcore fans. Saying that the gloves or the cut cost him the fight is an excuse either way you look at it.
I find it quite funny how the diehard Pacquiao fans say Morales is making excuses after they made all kinds of ridiculous excuses after both the Marquez and the first Morales fight.
An excuse is an excuse. Pacquiao lost the first fight and Morales lost the second fight. No excuses.
I think Pacquiao is going to knock Morales out again as well but I hope there is no excuses for Pacquiao if he happens to loses. You do remember Pacquiao came with alot of excuses after the first fight don't you?
The excuse about the problem with his manager Murad, it should not havet affected Pacquiao on the first fight, so i agree with u there.
But the cut on the top of Pac's eye is a fact. It affected him the rest of the fight. As far as the gloves, Pac is use to wearing Reyes gloves and Reyes is more known as a puncher gloves. So the gloves is a fact also. If not, then why did Morales has to put it into the contract that Pac has to wear Winning gloves. I am not saying that Pac would definitely be the winner in the 1st fight with Morales. The result could have been diffirent. Remember that the 1st fight was a contender for the fighter of the year, not because of just Erik, but becuz both of them, Erik outboxing Pac, but Pac fighting back with his so called one dimensional style. If there was no cut and wearing Reyes gloves, Pac could have won the fight, either by UD, SD, or KO(TKO). Or the fight could have been a draw.
But the fact is Erik Morales won and he won it fair and square.
everyone is alright w/ it, i think. this is going to be a war again. i hope pac is focus as before coz if he does, he's going to ko em and send him to retirement! no excuses this time for morales i hope if he loses
I think Pacquiao is going to knock Morales out again as well but I hope there is no excuses for Pacquiao if he happens to loses. You do remember Pacquiao came with alot of excuses after the first fight don't you?
I think it's pathetic that a naturally bigger man like Morales is asking for weight advantage against a man who started as a 106 pounder.
That to me is cheating and cowardice.
I hope he gets KTFO again.
Pacquiao started at a lower weight class but come on you can't actually believe that he belonged there can you?
That's like Delahoya starting at 130 and is now fighting at 154. Morales started at 122 but he didn't belong there.
Just because a fighter can make the weight doesn't mean he belongs there. They are just dehydrating themselves to get there.
If he cant make 130 then his got no business trying to fight a smaller fighter. :rolleyes: its rediculous that everyone is giving a pass for morales picking on a smaller fighter. his been doing it for most of his carreer and it was alright because he actually put the hardwork in to make the weight but once you cant make weight then you got no business being in there with those who can.
if pacquio doesn't have a problem with it then nobody else should, and how is morales pickin on the smaller fighter, he lost his last fight with manny!