i think this because of this one reason (as well as others but mainly this one): baldy has done more in his past two fights than margarito has done in his entire career. baldy beat the boxer judah and be stopped the puncher gatti, two huge names in the welterweight division, as well as in boxing.
margarito hasnt faced a name opponnent his whole career. regardless of whose fault it is, margarito's resume is none too impressive.
sure a fight with margarito and floyd would be pretty big. but beyond this site, i seriously doubt it. people know who carlos baldomir is. the recognized welterweight champion of the world. IBF belt is vacant, WBA belt is vacant, which means there are only two belt holders in this division and one of 'em has just pulled off two major victories and serious upsets (and im obviously NOT talking about margarito).
now its the welterweight king vs the p4p king (who is a welterweight). its a terrific match pitting the boxing floyd vs the punching baldy. styles make fights and this one could be like ali/frazier.
margarito is a dangerous opponent, sure. but whos he beaten and what has he done to deserve a shot against floyd mayweather? have margarito face a serious opponent to show the world what hes got and maybe a fight with floyd might not be so preposturous.
You cannot tell me about Significant Wins HOW BOUT PBF who has PBF Fought at welter who is significant enough to crown him as the best at welter A DIMINISHING GATTI With not enough hand speed to last 6 rounds, A HAS BEEN SAMRMBA MITCHELL, You cant tell me he is the best at welter < I GIVE MUCH RESPECT AT A LOWER WEIGHT Class with his wins over castillo and diego, but margarito does have the WBO belt and is ranked2nd in the division , You know what it does makes sense to fight a hard hitting brick chin having agrentina boxer who is a lesser risk why because baldomir is toO slow for mayweather, pbf will overwelm him with speed agility and impecable defense,all the attributes that baldomir lacks He will win credibility from fans like you "CONSUMER FANS" who only know names. Besides let PBF beat baldomir and get the belt let him get his chance with the golden boy once margarito gets there he will be de throwned WHy you ask because the mental battle has been won FACT OF THE MATTER HE TOOK A LOWER RISK FIGHT and not a crowd pleasing 8 million he is afraid of not getting his may 5 bout for a possible golden boy whopping , its simple clean cut and dry PBF WILL NEVER BE CONSIDEREd THE BEST AT WELTER UNTIL HE FIGHTS LEGITIMATE OPPONENT LIKE OSCAR MARGARITO HATTON , why not throw in Winky wright , Or a good one for you "SHANE MOSLEY" is that a decent name for you. If PBF Fights these guys much respect but until then he is just a GREAT PROSPECT IN THE WELTERWEIGHT DIVISIOn. THE CREDIBILITY FACTOR WILL NOT BE USED FOR WELTERWEIGHT BETWEEN PBF/TONY why because most PBF FANS OVERSHAdow PBF's CARRER BEFORE WELTERWEIGHT, BEATING GATTI AND MITCHELL IS NOT A TRIUMPH IT"S A CAKE WALK SO U CANT COME WITH WHOS FOUGHT WHO AND WHaT not faCT OF THE MATTER BOTH FIGHTS HAVE NOT FOUGHT DECENT OPPONENTS AT 147 YET. i RESPECT MAYWEATHER AS A BOXER BUT NOT AS A CHAMP , BECAUSE CHAMPS CLEAR ANY DOUBT IN ANY FANS MIND ABOUT HIS ABILITY TO BEAT A CERTAIN OPPONENT , ESPECIALLY AN 8 MILLION DOLLAR BOUT WITH A WBO BELT AS AN INCENTIVE. BUT THE SMARTER BUSINESS DECISION WAS BALDOMIR HOW SMART. PBf is the best at hipocrit ever
It not even worth debating to say Baldomir Mayweather is the better fight than Floyd Margarito.
Why is Margarito so fixitated on Floyd. There are so many other potentionally good drawing fights out there for him with all the names at 147.
lol, sure Gatti is very popular you idiot but that dont make a GOOD fighter , dont be so stupid!..he lost to MICKEY FREAKIN WARD!
judah isnt a big name! he is most known for his chicken dance when Kosta KO'D HIM!!!!!!
KNOW YOUR ROLL
I think you should learn to know your ROLE.
Banned again, hopefully for good.
When you question a belt holder's resume and openly declare he's been fighting taxi drivers and jobless conductors, it's a lot worse of an insult than calling him straight up a BUM. what's wrong with you?
Are you crazy? Yeah, being called a bum is much better than saying you've fought weaker opposition most of your career.... What's wrong with you, is the better question.
Williams is a title holder? Wrong again, Nopes definitely not. Where did you get your information? Williams is rated No 1 contender by WBO (a mandatory for Margarito), 2 by WBC right behind PBF. He is also rated no 7 by WBA, rated no 5 by IBF. So what title are you talking about?
I'm talking about 2 ridiculously shitty belts he holds that are practically meaningless. But then Which belt does Margarito have? The WBO which has been considered a "legitimate" belt for a handful of years now and originally won it while it was vacant.
As to PBF again, I respect fighters who have dignity even if they are not title holders. So I'll have more respect for Baldomir who has more loses but then have the balls to prove what comes out of his mouth than PBF who has the highest stature in this sports and yet makes excuses when confronted with all the bullshits which came out of his own mouth.
You don't have to respect Floyd. But you can't disrepsect his accomplishments despite how much you might dislike his attitute towards the sport and his opponents. I'm also unsure how Floyd hsa been confronted with bullshit thats come out of his mouth other than 1) calling Gatti a bum then a true champ, which was simply him hyping the fight and then acknowledging Gatti as a boxer for the people. and 2) Him saying $ was what made sense to him only to turn down Margarito's 8million dollar offer... only to get more for fighting Baldomir.
Baldomir said he wants PBF? So he's fighting PBF. :p Yeah Floyd said it's all about money, that's why he's a fucki'n disgrace to this sports. Money is always the easiest excuse buddy, especially to fighters without dignity.
Baldomir wants PBF because Baldomir wants $. If he were a true champion he would've fought Margarito like everybody thinks Floyd should have... Lawl.
Always separate the facts from the HYPES.
Always seperate the Bum Killers with an ingenious promoter from the real deal.
You're usually logical Psychopath... but not in this argument.
He didn't imply Margarito was a bum. You chose to infer it from his post, however, it is more likely Margarito would simply be a Bum Killer.
If a title holder calls out another title holder.... Do you realize how many title holders there are in weight divisions nowadays? Williams is a title holder and just called out Margarito too. If he does not accept the challenge he is a ducker.
You then go on to discuss records. It's not just records, it's not just belts, it's not just opponents... it's all of them. Margarito might have a better record but has no names. Baldomir might not have the better record but he has the better names and better belts.
Also, Floyd does say it's all about $ and whatnot. I think it's safe to say that Floyd knew he wanted more than 8 million dollars for a fight. Plenty goes on behind the scenes that we as fans aren't privey to. While shopping around for offers of fights between promoters and such he was most likely looking at large figures for most of them. When Baldomir came out of nowhere and then won both fights in a row... Mayweather's camp then checked out the offer they could get for that fight and it came back the highest.
While some of this is speculation on your part, so is your post. THe 8million dollars that was offered to Floyd could've easily come with stipulations the general public didn't know. And if you're simply all up in arms about this due to the fact that it was a belt holder calling out another belt holder.... I'd find a new sport to enjoy since this isn't exactly a rare occurence in the sport the past 20 years.
Damn what's so stupid about it? Are you using common sense dude?
Cab drivers and unemployed conductors? :D Separate the HYPES from the facts. If you're going to consider that line of reasoning dude, then Margarito is real BUM. isn't that right?
Now explain to me why PBF would refuse to fight that BUM guy for $8 Million? If it's true that Margarito is such an easy work then PBF could have taken that offer, make a quick work out of him and knock him out in the first 20 seconds of the first round, collect his $8 MIL and then go home rich and at the same time he can shut the mouths of a lot of people and then earn respect. Does that makes sense to you people?
PBF said "if it makes $$$$, it makes sense". So by refusing that fight PBF is saying that an easy $8 Mil doesn't make sense? And you people are agreeing and is helping him out to justify? :D
As I said PBF simply opens his mouth too much for his own good. PBF just ate out his own bullshits and humilated himself. He is not smart as people perceived him to be.
Just use your brains and stop being a blind follower.
i never said margarito was a bum and i never said it would be an easy fight for floyd. and thats just $8 mil for floyd. he can make more than that with a fight with baldy.
all im saying is that margarito has done nothing to deserve a shot at floyd meanwhile floyd can get a bigger name and bigger money in a fight with baldy. now margarito is not a bum, and hes damn sure not an "easy" fight for floyd.
with consecutive wins over judah and gatti, a lot of attention is on baldy, much more attention than margarito. people know him, eyes are on him, names are now on his record, and he has the title of "top welter in the world". all margarito has is the WBO belt and a string of nobodies on his record.
baldy is where the money is at, baldy has the title, baldy is the champ right now. its a smart move on floyds part to take a fight with baldy. its where the money is and its for the real title.
psycho, i got nothing against you and im not trying to provoke anyone. chill, dude.
lol, sure Gatti is very popular you idiot but that dont make a GOOD fighter , dont be so stupid!..he lost to MICKEY FREAKIN WARD!
judah isnt a big name! he is most known for his chicken dance when Kosta KO'D HIM!!!!!!
KNOW YOUR ROLL
1. gatti is a bigger name than margarito, dumbass.
2. judah was the top welterweight in the world at the time, and yes he was a big name, you fuckhead.
3. learn how to spell role, you fucking moron.
Baldomir sells mops you idiot...he SELLS MOPS!
hes beaten two of the biggest names in boxing, you idiot... TWO OF 'EM!!!
i told you to fuck off, stop trolling me around.
I must agree that a Baldo/PBF fight is a little bit better than a Margarito/PBF fight in terms of stature. Why? Because Baldomir is the present linear Champ. That's all in it.
But then again you questioning Margarito's resume is just DUMB and STUPID. :) Lame excuse buddy. Margarito's resume have been questioned maybe more than a hundred times in this forum and yet no one can explain why PBF won't fight the guy for $8 Mil. :p A guy whom PBF said is suppose to be an easy work.
No matter how desperate you are to discredit Margarito, in the eyes of a true boxing pundits and I'm sure it's going down the books, that PBF simply declined to fight another title holder in the division.
You see this bullshit always goes in circle but at the end it always ends up smacking back into PBFs and into his nuthugger's faces.
whats so stupid about it? hes fought cab drivers, and unemployed street car conductors. thats not exactly the resume of some1 whos "going down in the history books".
what has Floyd done at welter to deserve a shot with Baldimor?
you're dumb
what the fuck is ur problem, you fucking stalking troll? get the fuck away from me.
i think this because of this one reason (as well as others but mainly this one): baldy has done more in his past two fights than margarito has done in his entire career. baldy beat the boxer judah and be stopped the puncher gatti, two huge names in the welterweight division, as well as in boxing.
margarito hasnt faced a name opponnent his whole career. regardless of whose fault it is, margarito's resume is none too impressive.
sure a fight with margarito and floyd would be pretty big. but beyond this site, i seriously doubt it. people know who carlos baldomir is. the recognized welterweight champion of the world. IBF belt is vacant, WBA belt is vacant, which means there are only two belt holders in this division and one of 'em has just pulled off two major victories and serious upsets (and im obviously NOT talking about margarito).
now its the welterweight king vs the p4p king (who is a welterweight). its a terrific match pitting the boxing floyd vs the punching baldy. styles make fights and this one could be like ali/frazier.
margarito is a dangerous opponent, sure. but whos he beaten and what has he done to deserve a shot against floyd mayweather? have margarito face a serious opponent to show the world what hes got and maybe a fight with floyd might not be so preposturous.
you had me at "baldy has done more in his past two fights than margarito has done in his entire career". you had me at "baldy has done more in his past two fights than margarito has done in his entire career".
really, nothing more needs to be said
good for Floyd and for Baldomir. Margarito can kiss my ass.
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