Okay here it is my top 5 p4p. Tell me what you think about it and if you would change anything. (Remember im just a kid be nice :) )
1. Ronald winky wright- Alot of people have him at number 2 under floyed mayweather but as you will find out i think floyed mayweather is overrated. He is a boxers worst nightmare has an increadably awquard southpaw style wich is impossable to look good agains and he also has the best defense in boxing right now by far and possibly of all time. So in conclusion he is imposible to look good aganst so eeven if you beat him you look like you suck, he is nearly impossable to hit, and is just an over all amazingly talented fighter.
2. manny Pacquiao (Pacman)- He jas done alot over the last 5 years he is arguably the best super bantum weight of all time and is also one of the greatest feather weights of all time. He has beat the best and allthow he has been beaten he was beaten by the best.
3. Pretty boy floyd mayweather- not even a great fighter in my opinion. I dont think he belongs in the p4p rankings at all but hey he has enouph people behind him so ill go ahead and add him as number 3. Floyed is alot like a bully. He goes out and looks for people he can beat and beats the crap out of them. But if he finnds someone who could even stand a chance against him he runs and avoids them.( he is currrently ducking antonio margarito and manny manny more but is signd to fight carlos baldomier on novenber 4th. Baldomeir doesnt standa chance.) He has never had a tough fight so he has never been tested thats why i dont think he is number 1.
4. Marco antonio barrera - He goes from weightclass to weight class leaving a huge wake of destruction in his path. He also has the heart of a fighter he never backs down from a challenger ans is willing to figt anybody.
5.Bernard hopkins- Just wach one of his fights. This 40 something year old is still a dominant force in boxing. He held the middle weight title for a record 13 years before losing his title to jermaighn taylor in 2 verry contraversial fights. After losing his title he jumped back up to light heavyweight (2 weight classes up) and destroyed the beltr holder antonio tarver making him the light heavy champin of the world. He did this at 40 thats a truly amazing feat. I honestly beleave b-hop could hold his new title for another 13 years but i would advise him to retire soon.
I don't think I'd have Hatton OR Floyd in my top 5 or even top 10 P4P... both overrated to Hell, as the coming year will prove.
I reckon I'd have the Blow in there though.
Anorak, that is a ludicrous statement.
I don't think I'd have Hatton OR Floyd in my top 5 or even top 10 P4P... both overrated to Hell, as the coming year will prove.
I reckon I'd have the Blow in there though.
i fail to see how u could NOT have PBF in the top 3. its not even arguable. You may think he is over-rated, but there has been nothing to prove that at all.
And hatton, my favorite active fighter, should not be anywhere near the top 5 p4p. idc what anybody says, he simply hasnt showed that he deserves it. Top 10 is reasonable, but i wouldnt be appalled if someone said that THAT was a stretch. i currently have him at the 8 slot.
And neither hatton NOR mayweather are over-rated. Hattons gonna make a great fight with castillo(currently the most under-rated fighter in the world IMO, on this forumn it goes to ruiz though)
and then mayweather will dismantle HOF greats, Sugar shane and dlh.
Hahahaha, I had to stop after this. Seriously? The best defensein boxing right now by far and possibly all time? Have you ever heard of fighters such as Willie Pep, Sugar Ray Robinson, "Sweet Pea" Whitaker, Roy Jones, Jr., Sugar Ray Leonard, and Floyd Mayweather, Jr.? Every single one of these boxers mentioned has a better defense than Winky. Hell, Willie Pep is the only boxer in history credited with winning a round in which he never threw a punch. How's that for defense?
thats not even an insult. lol. Pep was a great fighter with as much grace and style as a fighters defense can get. He is an all time great, and arguably a top 10 great of all time, any weight.
Sugar Ray Robinson was the p4p best fighter of all time, no question about it. He did everything great. It is a complete honor to even have ur name mentioned underneath his.
Jones Jr. was just rediculously good, but his defense was 90% based on his amazing reflexes. after they went, so did his defense. He hardly had a defense, his reflexes were just so far and beyond everyone else that he could see, dodge, or block punches that were comin in. lol. i would rank winky's defense above his without a question.
Whitaker and leonard had great defenses obviously, but winky wright is just such an a great defender, i could easily be argued into ranking winky above these guys in terms of defense.
And here is the thing with PBF. His defense is awsome, but like RJJ, its a lot of his reflexes. which is great and still lets u have a great defense.
but IMO and the way i see it, to be able to stand directly in front of a guy like jermain taylor or Fernando Vargas, and NOT get hit at all anywhere on ur body, lets ur defense rise above a lot of great defenses out there. Sure, an accurate puncher who picks his shots, like hopkins, could slip jabs inbetween the guard on occasion, but his defense is still nearly inpenatratable.
Guys like PBF, SRR, SRL, WP, they never stood right in front of an opponent and got away with it. especially PBF and SRL. Thats how "I" and others, rank defense, and thats why i think winky has some of the greatest defensive abilities to ever hit the sport.
as far as P4P #1, its hard to put him ahead of PBF, But its not ABSURD. i would have winky at 2
okay i missworded that floyed meyweather is a great fighter but he doesnt have the big name fights he needs to be p4p #1. I need to see him fight someone who could stand a chance to him. I mean margorito offerd him a huge purse but pbf turnd it down because margarito could possibly beat him. When i see floyed mayweather beat the best Thats when ill say he is the best untill then he is number 3 maybe number 4 on my lisy
Big Names?
Winky has faced 4 world champions.
Mayweather 9.
Your list sucks.
I don't think I'd have Hatton OR Floyd in my top 5 or even top 10 P4P... both overrated to Hell, as the coming year will prove.
I reckon I'd have the Blow in there though.
I agree with u man.
It's simple. He can slick the punches and connect his own combos. How do you thik Ouma wins his fights? Volume. That's proof that you don't need to hit hard to win a fight. All you have to do is connect more than your opponent. PBF would box circles around them all.
Well I see where you are coming from but politely disagree.
I seriously doubt Floyd could beat any of those 3 at 154 what makes you think Floyd is going to be better at 154?he IMO should not go past 147 you can already see he is not as strong at 147 against true WW........he would be beaten by DLH,Mosley and Wright at 154 and only stand a chance at 147 because Mosley and DLH are aging.
It's simple. He can slick the punches and connect his own combos. How do you thik Ouma wins his fights? Volume. That's proof that you don't need to hit hard to win a fight. All you have to do is connect more than your opponent. PBF would box circles around them all.
Yes, Winky is bigger, but he'd have to drain himself so much to make weight that he'd be almost worthless as a fighter. Also, size and strength doesn't determine a winner. Sometimes, faster and more agile = boxing circles around the other guy. Look at your sig: Winky can't hit what his eyes can't see.
I seriously doubt Floyd could beat any of those 3 at 154 what makes you think Floyd is going to be better at 154?he IMO should not go past 147 you can already see he is not as strong at 147 against true WW........he would be beaten by DLH,Mosley and Wright at 154 and only stand a chance at 147 because Mosley and DLH are aging.
Dude how could mayweather beat winky? Winkys bigger stronger. Not faster but not too much slower. His defense argualbly better than mayweathers. Mayweather has virtualy nothing in his favor for this fight.
Yes, Winky is bigger, but he'd have to drain himself so much to make weight that he'd be almost worthless as a fighter. Also, size and strength doesn't determine a winner. Sometimes, faster and more agile = boxing circles around the other guy. Look at your sig: Winky can't hit what his eyes can't see.
They will not be going down in weight.Winky can fight at 154 or 160 and maybe even 168 although I would not suggest it.Taylor will never fight below 160 IMO and will probably move up to 168 in the next year or two and will most definetely end his career at 175.Floyd should not go higher than 147 in my personal opinion.Hell he could'nt even hurt Zab Judah at WW so I don't see him doing much damage to a guy with an actual beard at 147.......unless he is a staionary tartget like Gatti was and I think they fought at 140 anyway.
Id just like to make it clear that i do know a lot about boxing i just get kinda confused with the whole weight thing.
Oh so he is out of winky and jermaigns weight. So he may be able to do some stuff. But im not sure what winky and taylor fight at exacly but if they ever go down too mayweathers weight i doubt he will be able to even stand up agains them.
Dude, Taylor could NEVER make 154 and Wright would have such a hard time that the weight loss would drain him beyond the ability to fight 6 rounds. There is no way either of these fighters goes below 160.
PBF wanted to fight Winky at 154 but Winky knew he couldn't make the weight. He just made the challenge knowing Winky couldn't do it.
I suggest you read up a bit more and watch a few more fights before posting. Boxing is a sport where perspective matters but some things just are beyond debate and have to be appreciated personally.
YES. At 147, he eats up Mosley. At 154, he beats all three.
Mosley would've had a very good shot at beating PBF at 135 but Mosley moved up to 147 before Floyd was able to get there.
I'd pick PBF over everyone at 154 and below, including Wright, Margo, DLH, Ouma, Hatton, Cotto, Baldy, Vargas, and Vernon Forest.
Look, you just said you were 13 years old. You never saw how great those fighters PBF made look like chumps really were. Genaro Hernandez was the most feared man other than DLH below Welterweight. PBF TKO'd his ass in 8! Not only that, he made him quit the sport of boxing. Angel Manfredy was on a tear and had won 23 out of 24 straight fights (with one no contest) and had KO'd 18 of those fighters. He wasn't called "the Devil" for nothing, either. Most fighters were intimidated by him. Chico Corrales was one of the biggest fights at the time and he had a record of 33-0 with 28 KOs. NOBODY wanted to fight this guy. Floyd humiliated him. He also put JL Castillo on the undercard of that fight to set up a fight with him a year later. Jesus Chavez was tearing up the division at the time and his corner had to toss in the towel because Chavez was so badly outmatched that he hadn't won a single minute of the fight.
It's hard to appreciate Mayweather's gifts if you didn't see those fighters in previous fights. I thought JL Castillo would eat up Mayweather (I thought the same thing about Corrales and Hernandez) as did most of the press/analysts at the time. Mayweather was an underdog in all those fights and he made every single one of them look like a punk (except for the first JLC fight where I scored a draw).
Dude how could mayweather beat winky? Winkys bigger stronger. Not faster but not too much slower. His defense argualbly better than mayweathers. Mayweather has virtualy nothing in his favor for this fight.
Oh so he is out of winky and jermaigns weight. So he may be able to do some stuff. But im not sure what winky and taylor fight at exacly but if they ever go down too mayweathers weight i doubt he will be able to even stand up agains them.
They will not be going down in weight.Winky can fight at 154 or 160 and maybe even 168 although I would not suggest it.Taylor will never fight below 160 IMO and will probably move up to 168 in the next year or two and will most definetely end his career at 175.Floyd should not go higher than 147 in my personal opinion.Hell he could'nt even hurt Zab Judah at WW so I don't see him doing much damage to a guy with an actual beard at 147.......unless he is a staionary tartget like Gatti was and I think they fought at 140 anyway.
Do you think floyed mayweather could beat sugar shane mosly, de lahoya , or winky?
YES. At 147, he eats up Mosley. At 154, he beats all three.
Mosley would've had a very good shot at beating PBF at 135 but Mosley moved up to 147 before Floyd was able to get there.
I'd pick PBF over everyone at 154 and below, including Wright, Margo, DLH, Ouma, Hatton, Cotto, Baldy, Vargas, and Vernon Forest.
Look, you just said you were 13 years old. You never saw how great those fighters PBF made look like chumps really were. Genaro Hernandez was the most feared man other than DLH below Welterweight. PBF TKO'd his ass in 8! Not only that, he made him quit the sport of boxing. Angel Manfredy was on a tear and had won 23 out of 24 straight fights (with one no contest) and had KO'd 18 of those fighters. He wasn't called "the Devil" for nothing, either. Most fighters were intimidated by him. Chico Corrales was one of the biggest fights at the time and he had a record of 33-0 with 28 KOs. NOBODY wanted to fight this guy. Floyd humiliated him. He also put JL Castillo on the undercard of that fight to set up a fight with him a year later. Jesus Chavez was tearing up the division at the time and his corner had to toss in the towel because Chavez was so badly outmatched that he hadn't won a single minute of the fight.
It's hard to appreciate Mayweather's gifts if you didn't see those fighters in previous fights. I thought JL Castillo would eat up Mayweather (I thought the same thing about Corrales and Hernandez) as did most of the press/analysts at the time. Mayweather was an underdog in all those fights and he made every single one of them look like a punk (except for the first JLC fight where I scored a draw).
Oh so he is out of winky and jermaigns weight. So he may be able to do some stuff. But im not sure what winky and taylor fight at exacly but if they ever go down too mayweathers weight i doubt he will be able to even stand up agains them.
Whats mayweather fighting at now? Isnt he up to jr middle weight. If he is he is realy in trouble because then he is in taylor and winky territory. Taylor and winky are allmost unbeatable. If he is at jr middle weight then i definantly cant put him #1
He is at 147 and it would be a huge mistake for him to go any higher IMO.DLH leanred that when he went all the way to MW and in most peoples eyes lost both of his MW fights although he got a gift in the Sturm fight.