For decades, the black fighters have been dominating the heavyweight division and after Lennox retired, Vitali Klistchko was regarded as his successor. Shortly after Vitali Klitschko's retirement, there were many threads on who will be the next White Hope and now this..
How quickly did the Eastern Europeans took over the HW division?
Who could have thought?
Are there any Black fighters in the division that could potentially dominate?
Rahman - Maskaev has his number.
Brewster - Lyakhovich has already beat him and who knows when will he be able to fight again
Peter - Klitschko already has a "W" over him and would feel a lot more comfortable if there is ever a rematch
Byrd - No comments needed
Toney - Too out-of-shape, too small, and is getting old
That only leaves the unbeaten Calvin "The Boxing Banker" Brock and possibly Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs as the only black hopes? Does either of them have what it takes?
So my question to you is, who is, or will be the new black hope?
There is also a lot of new talent that keeps coming from the same Eastern European block:
Ruslan Chagaev
Sultan Ibragimov
Vladimir Virchis
Alexander Dimitrenko
Alexander Povetkin
Roman Greenberg
Albert Sosnowski
Does it mean that the young Americans have lost interest in boxing and as many say are more into football and basketball? Or is it the fact that the sport of Boxing grew in the Eastern European countries, producing quality opponents/champions from areas who have never competed in the passed?
plenty of talent in the european world. you clearly just dont wanna see it
earopian heavyweights are ok but nohting great.. theres no dominating heavyweight
Hey man most of them Dopping to..But I have to give it to them they are hard working people. German, Russian and all the other Eurapeans fighters are not white white skin maybe but is not American white blood is different weaker chin. lol
naw I think you need to try harder..we already got rid of one of your white hopes int eh "white" wolf..next is china chin wlad. after that old man maskaev is going down..so by this time next year guess what:banana:
here we go,,,,,another board rascist. wait in line pal and keep wishing upon a star :bottle:
I feel like the other guy we need an American hope in the HW division. Hell, I'll even go further and say we need any kind of hope in the HW division. The Klitschkos and rahman just don't do it for me. I think they are just too big and have no mobilarity, no athleticsm, no endurance. I can't remeber the last HW fight that wasn't a hugfest. It is boring as hell watching 2 whales grab and hold each other for 12 rounds.
naw I think you need to try harder..we already got rid of one of your white hopes int eh "white" wolf..next is china chin wlad. after that old man maskaev is going down..so by this time next year guess what:banana:
WTF are you talking about?
Facts are facts...
For dumbasses that can't read... This thread is over 6 month old and was made in sarcasm in response to a number of the "white hope threads" circulating around
Did Toney say there will never be a white champion before Wladimir won the world title then? I think Toney said it because a white man hasnt beaten him yet. I think he needs to step in the ring with Wladimir or Vitali and the other eastern europeans and stop having his ass handed to him by afro americans and lookalikes of himself called samuel peters.
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68328
I dont think boxing needs a black hope...frankly, the number 1 p4p fighters are usually black americans, or in some cases, like me, a black puerto rican. I dont think black folks are concerned with any kind of "black hope" in boxing.
What he said, unfortunately, due to some of the ugly racist history of boxing we place too much emphasis on a boxer's race. I'm black and I don't care if all the champs weren't Black. I just want to see good entertaining fights.
This thread is over 6 month old.
The reason it was created because there were many threads after Wlad's loss and after Vitali's retirement on "Who will be the next white hope?"
Toney also said.. "There will never be a white HW champion"
So this thread was created after all 4 titles belong to the....
you know the rest
Did Toney say there will never be a white champion before Wladimir won the world title then? I think Toney said it because a white man hasnt beaten him yet. I think he needs to step in the ring with Wladimir or Vitali and the other eastern europeans and stop having his ass handed to him by afro americans and lookalikes of himself called samuel peters.
Dont discount Peter or Brewster yet.
Brewster had a detached retnia, and still fought a hell of a fight, and I would pick him in a rematch.
Wlad was fortunate to decision Peter I think, and I dont think he would to too keen to take a rematch.
brewster would have less of a chance than peter of beating wlad in a rematch in my opinion. all wlad would have to do is box and be patient like he's been and its an easy win. he punched himself out last time which enabled brewster to find him easily and even so it took a tremendously hungry brewster ( remember him crying at the press conference) to get off the canvas and absorb tremendous punishment. brewster has taken a lot of punches in that fight and since and has probably also lost the hunger now that he's made some good money. I just doubt he'll be the same fighter and even if he is its doubtful he'd beat the more measured wlad of today
i wouldn go this far becuase nobodies dominating
This thread is over 6 month old.
The reason it was created because there were many threads after Wlad's loss and after Vitali's retirement on "Who will be the next white hope?"
Toney also said.. "There will never be a white HW champion"
So this thread was created after all 4 titles belong to the....
you know the rest
Dont discount Peter or Brewster yet.
Brewster had a detached retnia, and still fought a hell of a fight, and I would pick him in a rematch.
Wlad was fortunate to decision Peter I think, and I dont think he would to too keen to take a rematch.
more like peter was fortunate to lose a decision,,,,he should have been knocked out in that last round. wlad let him off the hook way too many times. I dont think peter will take a rematch. just my opinion
For decades, the black fighters have been dominating the heavyweight division and after Lennox retired, Vitali Klistchko was regarded as his successor. Shortly after Vitali Klitschko's retirement, there were many threads on who will be the next White Hope and now this..
How quickly did the Eastern Europeans took over the HW division?
Who could have thought?
Are there any Black fighters in the division that could potentially dominate?
Rahman - Maskaev has his number.
Brewster - Lyakhovich has already beat him and who knows when will he be able to fight again
Peter - Klitschko already has a "W" over him and would feel a lot more comfortable if there is ever a rematch
Byrd - No comments needed
Toney - Too out-of-shape, too small, and is getting old
That only leaves the unbeaten Calvin "The Boxing Banker" Brock and possibly Shannon "The Cannon" Briggs as the only black hopes? Does either of them have what it takes?
So my question to you is, who is, or will be the new black hope?
There is also a lot of new talent that keeps coming from the same Eastern European block:
Ruslan Chagaev
Sultan Ibragimov
Vladimir Virchis
Alexander Dimitrenko
Alexander Povetkin
Roman Greenberg
Albert Sosnowski
Does it mean that the young Americans have lost interest in boxing and as many say are more into football and basketball? Or is it the fact that the sport of Boxing grew in the Eastern European countries, producing quality opponents/champions from areas who have never competed in the passed?
i wouldn go this far becuase nobodies dominating
Does every topic comes around to black and white?
Is there a inate need for people to have a symbol to
make them feel good about themselves?
Why does it matter? And what do you get from it?:dunno:
Please elaborate. Thank you.