I saw Brian Viloria for the first and last time tonight, and I have no idea why this guy was so hyped. I was in Hawaii in 2002 and saw him on the cover of a boxing magazine cover there. Looking back, it's like wow, who was this guy and why did everyone think so highly of him that they would be shocked when he finally lost? Viloria showed no desire whatsoever as the rounds progressed. He hardly even threw punches in the championship rounds! Freddie Roach needed to slap him across the face apparently because as a trainer, he did everything he could to save Viloria's career. I'm getting real sick and tired of everyone saying one loss does not break a fighter, but one like this sure does. Sorry to any Viloria fans, but this was my first time watching him, and this was pathetic.
The worst guys to watch are Ricardo Vargas and the bantamweights with no power. No offense, I really like the little guys, but the lower weight guys that throw medium speed, arm punches in bunches can be very redundant.
which makes Viloria's behavior all the more inexplicable. if he's truly afraid of killing an opponent (an excuse I have never and will never buy for any fighter in boxing), then WHY GET IN THE FUCKING RING IN THE FIRST PLACE? that's bullshit now that I've had time to think it over. he's just an unmotivated loser after that performance. I can't respect any fighter that knows for a fact he's way behind and doesn't go for the KO in the last 3 rounds. I don't even respect the guys that wait for round 12 to try because by then it's almost always too late. I mean at least Tua hit Rahman after the bell in the 9th when he had lost every round up til that point. that shows me he's at least trying, even if he's cheating to get it done, but at least he wants to win. why should we ever waste our time watching Viloria again? seriously. if he's not going to try, why should we bother watching him and wasting our time?So true. Forget about INTENSITY. Villoria did not even show the slightest INTENTION of retaining his crown!
It was not a skills loss; it was a head loss. Villoria's head seems to be messed up and his heart is on vacation, and there must be something to account for all that. But, like Diego I do not buy that "fear of killing his opponent" line. What the problem is, I can only guess and my guess can only be as good as anybody's.
One does not win by landing 5 to a dozen punches in a round and be content with it.
His demeanor after the fight was revealing and the interview was even more so. He just didn't care. He was not even visibly angry with himself for having what he called, "a bad night". He just took it. Championship caliber fighters don't; they curse themselves if they cannot curse anybody else.
Hope he fixes his lack of "winning attitude" and comes back. And, hope he does it fast. Nothing drives fans away more than a lack of effort, and nothing can make a good fighter become a bum more than lack of fire.
I don't know I think that there is some overreaction after every prospect loses. I don't think this is the end of the world. Again I though Juarez looked uninspired and listless against Soto but he came back and fought great against Barrera. Maybe Viloria will do the same. Similarly Joel Julio was controlled by Quintana but I think he will come back and do some things at 147 once he gets some confidence back. But if Viloria simply wasn't giving effort then I understand not wanting to see him again.
i couldn't beleive that fight, he really didn't care, I've never seen Roach so motivating either,
which makes Viloria's behavior all the more inexplicable. if he's truly afraid of killing an opponent (an excuse I have never and will never buy for any fighter in boxing), then WHY GET IN THE FUCKING RING IN THE FIRST PLACE? that's bullshit now that I've had time to think it over. he's just an unmotivated loser after that performance. I can't respect any fighter that knows for a fact he's way behind and doesn't go for the KO in the last 3 rounds. I don't even respect the guys that wait for round 12 to try because by then it's almost always too late. I mean at least Tua hit Rahman after the bell in the 9th when he had lost every round up til that point. that shows me he's at least trying, even if he's cheating to get it done, but at least he wants to win. why should we ever waste our time watching Viloria again? seriously. if he's not going to try, why should we bother watching him and wasting our time?
I was disappointed in the performance, but I don't think this is the end for Viloria. I remember watching Rocky Juarez fight Humberto Soto and after the fight thinking that Juarez looked uninspired and totally frustrated. In a certain sense I thought he had been "exposed" (as much as I hate to use that word). But he proved me dead wrong and looked strong in his last performance (even though it was a loss). So I think Viloria can come back and still be a champion...maybe he should move up in weight.
Viloria hasn't been the same since the Contreras fight.
Before being too critical of Brian first you have to take into account that he's a really nice guy and second that just 3 fights ago he nearly killed Ruben Contreras.
Now, after Contreras almost died from bleeding on the brain from the hands of Viloria in a 6 rd beating, Brian is more hesitant to let his hands go like he used to.
Some fighters cannot recover from something like that, some take a little time. I hope the latter is the case for Brian because he was a helluva thing to watch prior to that incident.
I did not know about this, and like I said, I was only rating him based on his one performance from last night, which is obviously his worst. This is more an attack on his desire than his abilities, but if this is true, then that's really too bad for Viloria. Boxing is cruel like that.
will viloria and nino have a rematch?
i hate how we always need a rematch nowadays. any tough, close, or upset fight must have a rematch. its getting on my nerves. i hope they dont have a rematch for this fight, viloria doesnt deserve one
it was completely and utterly pathetic. volaria didnt stary any of the combinations and didnt show any desire to win at any poin during the fight. He was completely shutdown and had idea what to do. i lost a lot of the respect i had for voloria in that fight.
I thought that picking him to win by KO in the 7th round was a stretch. i thought it would have earlier and quicker. but i heard that nino was a tough kid and i though he would hang on for a few rounds. Losing NEVER entered my mind...
How do I go about seeing the fights under 122?
I think this fight was the first fight under 126 that I've ever seen on TV.
Alot of fights south of 122 are tough to see but usually the bigger fights at the lower weights due find themselves on an undercard of a major fight or sometimes even a main event.
Carbahajl and Chiquita Gonzalez fights are must sees absolutely must see, most consider the first fight to be the one of the greatest if not thee greateest flyweight fight of all time.
Alvarez vs. Lopez 1 and 2 should not be missed either.
Dont worry about missing really big fights south of 122 unless the fighters are from Korea or Japan...if Vic and Arce ever hook up it will be on US TV....hell I d pay to see that one.
How do I go about seeing the fights under 122?
I think this fight was the first fight under 126 that I've ever seen on TV.
That's a good point, I have in the past seen some very good fights at the lower weight classes, but they don't seem to get much exposure here in the states.
Cmon Fuego...anybody under 122 pounds is a joke to you?
You wouldnt be foaming at the mouth to see Darchinyan and Arce get it on? There are some incredibly competitive fights at the lower levels that cannot be ignored by anybody especially you!
Do you think Lopez vs. Alvarez was a joke? How about Chiquita vs. Carbahajl, was that a joke?
Some of the best action fights in the sport are south of 122-dont forget that.
How do I go about seeing the fights under 122?
I think this fight was the first fight under 126 that I've ever seen on TV.
what was I supposed to pick? Nino, a guy I'd NEVER heard of over a guy that was KOing nobodies? let's not forget this is the junior flyweight division, which is a joke. anything below 122 is a joke to me and I only picked a 3rd round KO because I went by trends and I'm trying to win the Boxing Scene Prediction League, which I am currently leading
Cmon Fuego...anybody under 122 pounds is a joke to you?
You wouldnt be foaming at the mouth to see Darchinyan and Arce get it on? There are some incredibly competitive fights at the lower levels that cannot be ignored by anybody especially you!
Do you think Lopez vs. Alvarez was a joke? How about Chiquita vs. Carbahajl, was that a joke?
Some of the best action fights in the sport are south of 122-dont forget that.
a good win for romero. yes brian's heart isnt in there. i do beleive that brian was more technically sound than omar, but nino's work rate was unbelievable, and he showed more hunger.
brian never learned from the aguirre fight, he was still looking/and setting for the KO punch that lost him the earlier rounds. nino was obviously there for the full 12 rounds like an energizer bunny. he probably thought he could do another ortiz.
brian should be able to now decide whether he is going to a boxer or a puncher. he is being hyped as a puncher was obviously it shows that he's not ready for it.
i also believe a date with calderon or arce is still very much possible but hopes making a big purse may not be that great anymore.
Dude, you were hyping him before the fight, you had him winning by 3 round KO.
Styles makes fights, this doesn't mean Viloria is a bum, shit Pac lost when he was young, also many other greats have lost early in their career. This doesn't mean Viloria will never be good, only time will tell.
don't even bother.. he's the most "swayed biased" person on the board by FAR...
on the fight, like i said earlier, it looked as if that it was something wrong on Viloria's side, not so much Nino's performance.. Nino looked very beatable in there from what i saw and with the rumors of training camp having to be moved/delayed due to the heat, who knows what the real situation was, i don't know if Viloria was drained/tired or what, but he sure seemed like he was bothered by something and i have a hard time giving Nino too much credit for it.. btw, i really can't stand the OLN commentators.. too much repetition talk the entire fight
i'd never heard anything about that vB.. interesting