Gairy St. Claire: Pacquiao's shortcut to a belt?

everyone, wrighting off morales... hes gonna outbox pac watcha..

Thanks for your thoughts, fellas! You've all raised points to ponder.

After the third fight against morales.... Pac should go for st. claire and get the tittle then fight barrios cause i think barrios has the upper hand against guzman then finally against juarez. Barrera will not get away again this time, The after some tittle defense go up to lightweight and fightjuan diaz but i dont blame if pac lose to him but if pac can win he can retire cause i think if he done the things i listed people will always remerber him even if he is not the greatest of all time.

IMHO championship belts in order of merit/importance ... 1. Winner of MAB-Rocky 2. Winner of Barrios-Guzman (are they figthing soon?) 3. Valero (up and coming sensation) 4. St. Claire to cement PAC's legacy as the greatess Pinoy Figther of all time, he needs to win one more belt and anyone of the above will do it...

st claire fights out of australia now and i have seen him a number of times. He is a very good mover, but tends to give alot of rounds away. Even though im a huge fan of st claire, i think manny's pressure would secure a comfortable UD.

I've not seen him fight but Manny could have lots of problems againts a slick boxer. Pac would have to give up some rounds and try and catch him with a power shot.

I've seen a few Gary St Clair fights and his style is all wrong for Manny Pacquiao. If you remember back in 2004, Pac was supposed to fight St Clair as a tune-up for the Marquez rematch, but opted for Fahsan 3K Battery instead. St Clair/Pac is like a replay of Raheem/Morales.Heya there buddy! That's a point to be seriously considered. In addition, one must not overlook the fact that St. Claire has never been stopped (tough to stop a guy who keeps moving, they say). Not even by Diego. I don't know that he has even been floored. Yes, St. Claire was the name banded about ahead of Fahsan for the so-called IBF eliminator in Manila, prior to what was widely expected as a rematch with JMM. What happened though was Pacquiao faced Morales after Fahsan.

i think with valero's style pac can beat him Or vice versa. I actually think Valero has the style to beat Manny. Manny's style beats more the patient counter punchers or small bursts of energy type guys. Thus Morales and Barrera were ideal candidates to win against. Marquez gave Manny troubles and even though I think Manny has improved greatly and can beat Marquez nowadays, he would give Manny a lot of trouble. Though Manny's style can be beat when he's up against it. Valero is nonstop bomber and it'll come down to if Manny can take his punch. Valero went down though got back up, and I see him riding too much momentum to get knocked out by Manny. Muchless, Manny hasn't KOed anyone truely in along time. I don't see him doing it now either. Edwin has a good shot at beating Manny by riding his momentum.

I've seen a few Gary St Clair fights and his style is all wrong for Manny Pacquiao. If you remember back in 2004, Pac was supposed to fight St Clair as a tune-up for the Marquez rematch, but opted for Fahsan 3K Battery instead. St Clair/Pac is like a replay of Raheem/Morales.

Hi there flip! To really do that, however, the recently crowned WBA king needs to have his say heard; that's, yes, Valero. So, for Manny to be truly undisputed, he'll have to consider (and, of course, win) four fights more after Morales; then, retire. Late 2008 can be a good year for that. :) i think with valero's style pac can beat him

Forget all this belt talk. Manny has been fighting without belts for awhile and doesn't even care. He knows he can make a boat load of money with or without belts, fighting the fans fights. He just wants the fights that will give him the most money before retirement and it makes sense. Not to mention he's earned it. Let him choose his opponents that'll give him the most money before retirement and he can be on his merry way. Sure a lot of fans lose out on it, though you gotta look at it from a logical standpoint sometimes. What makes sense is what will most likely play through. the belts will cement his place in history IMO

Forget all this belt talk. Manny has been fighting without belts for awhile and doesn't even care. He knows he can make a boat load of money with or without belts, fighting the fans fights. He just wants the fights that will give him the most money before retirement and it makes sense. Not to mention he's earned it. Let him choose his opponents that'll give him the most money before retirement and he can be on his merry way. Sure a lot of fans lose out on it, though you gotta look at it from a logical standpoint sometimes. What makes sense is what will most likely play through.

i would love to see manny be the undisputed champion of the jr. lightweight division.Hi there flip! To really do that, however, the recently crowned WBA king needs to have his say heard; that's, yes, Valero. So, for Manny to be truly undisputed, he'll have to consider (and, of course, win) four fights more after Morales; then, retire. Late 2008 can be a good year for that. :)

While writing the thread starter, I was making side glances at the news that the Philippines' TV network, ABS, was considering putting up Barrera-Pac in the Philippines. That requires a lot of CapEx. With the numbers racked up in terms of ratings (close to 70, I was told) by the Larios fight, a meeting with St. Claire could mean even more if done in the Philippines as Pacquiao will then be fighting for a world title or titles. And, it shan't take as much money as one that would have a Barrera in it. Cost-Benefit ratio for ABS will be close to compelling. The same goes for Pacquiao: If Manny gets past Morales, then rips the belts off of St. Claire, he'll have a lot more to bring to the table against Barrera/Juarez and Barrios/Guzman. If he wins all 4, he shall have punched his tickets to boxing immortality even more--and make loads of more dollars while doing it. Three fights after Morales and he shall have unified, for all intents and purposes, the Jr.Lightweight division. That shall even be better than a win over Marquez. It shall be a legacy that shall resonate through the coming years. i would love to see manny be the undisputed champion of the jr. lightweight division.

I dont think this fight would happen. If Pac wins against Erik Morales. The he will fight straight to MAB on 2007 maybe march or april to end all of MAB's excuses. after MAB maybe Pac will figth JMM only if JMM wins a credible opponent like Guzman, Barrios or Valero. if not he will move to 135 and fight Diaz or Chavez before facing Corrales.While writing the thread starter, I was making side glances at the news that the Philippines' TV network, ABS, was considering putting up Barrera-Pac in the Philippines. That requires a lot of CapEx. With the numbers racked up in terms of ratings (close to 70, I was told) by the Larios fight, a meeting with St. Claire could mean even more if done in the Philippines as Pacquiao will then be fighting for a world title or titles. And, it shan't take as much money as one that would have a Barrera in it. Cost-Benefit ratio for ABS will be close to compelling. The same goes for Pacquiao: If Manny gets past Morales, then rips the belts off of St. Claire, he'll have a lot more to bring to the table against Barrera/Juarez and Barrios/Guzman. If he wins all 4, he shall have punched his tickets to boxing immortality even more--and make loads of more dollars while doing it. Three fights after Morales and he shall have unified, for all intents and purposes, the Jr.Lightweight division. That shall even be better than a win over Marquez. It shall be a legacy that shall resonate through the coming years.