Im Not Impressed with Valero

DLT19y ago

I just downloaded Magicjordan's video of him and to me he looked very flawed. He is basically another version of Pac. I hate watching one demensional Southpaws who just throw there left hand over & over & over again, espically when it comes from a shitty angle. He doesnt seem to have any kind of boxing skill at all. Pac has alot of speed and throws good combos. Valero just seems like a one punch at a time stalker. I kind of liked the guys JMM fought last night. All he did was throw his left also but it was very techniqal. Valero has one of those shitty lefts that come from the waiste and is extremely low. A good fighter would eat that shit up with a straight right that would clean his clock. Thats what the guy did last night and thats what some others have done to him but they dont have the power or skills to hurt him. His chin stays wide open. Will he be a good fighter? Probally but nothing special and he's really only going to be good because he is a lefty and most guys have hard times fighting them because you cant see there shit coming. If he fights Rocky or MAB right now he would get his ass whooped. He is sloppy, has bad footwork, stays offbalance, keeps his chin up, and throws low wide shots. Atleast Pac throws his shit straight. Again, its hard to judge from one look but that shit was a bad look and he just seems like a gunner to me with extremly bad technique. I think a great fight right now would be him vs Barrios

Comments (20)

adamk1304

THat is he could survive from there punches :D Valero is still new once a real slick boxer comes is going to finish him. by belief is Guzman is going to fight him and he would KO him if guzman acts like this in front of valero: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onb4ynZx-8w He would receive a beating from which he may never recover

19y ago

amagnin

I think that Valero is an exciting fighter that is still young. Sure he has some techincal flaws but he also has the great equalizer... POWER. And Valero is not one of these guys that has overrated power. As somebody already detailed, he has KO'd some durable opponents in the 1st round. And it doesn't concern me that he had some problems. Mosquera was clearly a big step up in opposition. Mosquera isn't going to go down in the HOF but he was a champ and an experienced fighter. Mosquera knew Valero's resume yet couldn't keep from being floored in the 1st round. My point is he knew that Valero had power and liked to get opponents out early, but wasn't able to stay on his feet anyway. Valero clearly has some deficiencies, but they all seem fixable. Stamina is his biggest problem right now and a more intense training camp and a little bit of punch selectivity could fix that. He also seems to take a lot of shots especially from straight rights, but he can learn to circle away from the right hand and he sems to have a good chin and heart. Mosquera isn't really powerful, but Valero wasn't really hurt...only stunned. And in the end he did what he had to do and KO'd the guy in his hometown. For a young guy seems pretty impressive to me.

19y ago

DLT

he acts like he is an expert boxing trainer. remember he just tore apart a guy who is 20-0 with 20 ko's and just won the wba title. sounds like an armchair qb to me What are you talking about? Theres alot of guys with big time records that havent done anything. You act like I cant say nothing about the dude. Before Julio got beat you probally wouldve ripped me for saying some shit about him

19y ago

loui_ludwig

who the fuck are you Teddy Atlas? Relax, his entitle to post his own opinion in here, its his observance of Valero. Fans like diffirent styles of boxing and Valero's style does not fit him.

19y ago

PRboxingfan

hes a prospect 2 look out for,he cant be underestimated or overestimated at the moment,but hes lookin good and he knows he needs 2 prove sumthin Prospects don't hold world titles. He stopped being a prospect when he took the fight with Mosquera, and became a contender. Now he's a champion. Valero looks good in the sparring sessions but I guess he just comes out like a windmill in his pro fights, from what I've heard. He's fought some durable guys and KO'd them in less than 2 (except for Mosquera, obviously). Here's a list of fighters who were considered durable (this is for you, DLT): Roque Cassiani - He'd gone the distance with Wilfredo Vazquez, Juan Manuel Marquez, and Victor Polo; He'd also gone 10 with Mighty Mike Anchondo and since losing to Valero, has gone the distance with Leavander Johnson, Koba Gogoladze, and Urbano Antillon. Estaban De Jesus - He was coming off a DQ loss to Mosquera in a fight that, by all acounts, he was dominating. He had proven himself a good, durable journeyman and Valero disposed of him in 1. Whyber Garcia - He'd gone 12 with Valdemir Pereira and 9 with Maldonado. He'd proven his durability as well. Genaro Trazancos - He'd fought Jose Cotto to 7 rounds, Daniel Seda to 10, and Luevano to 5, yet Valero destroyed him in 2. I have nothing but good things to say about Valero but I'd like to see the Mosquera fight and judge for myself how well he does after the second round.

19y ago

eazy_mas

Valero is for REAL. nuff said. He'll knock out every body at 130, Pac and Barrios included. ;) THat is he could survive from there punches :D Valero is still new once a real slick boxer comes is going to finish him. by belief is Guzman is going to fight him and he would KO him

19y ago

Atman

you need an answer? read my post again. you seemed clueless :D You pulled some shit out your ass, no need to read that nonsense again

19y ago

JOMS

19y ago

grayfist

From the descriptions on this thread, it seems to me that Valero has the subtlety and finis of a wrecking ball. But, like a wrecking ball, he gets the job done. He's had only 20 pro fights, and even that number cannot be taken at face value, given that he dusted off most of his foes in the first round, with only Mosquera and one other going beyond the initial canto. It can be said that he has only fought the equivalent of one 12-round fight (36 minutes)-- more or less-- in his entire pro career. Surely not much time to hone skills under real fight conditions. That lethal punch is what Valero brings to his fights. And, that's a lot. But with that said, it must quickly be added that fans have been disappointed before by huge punchers. Mugabi, among others, swifly comes to mind. Note should also be made on the third round KD by Mosquera who has dispatched only half his previous opponents before the full schedule (12KO's in 24 Ws), with only Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai as foe with a reconizable name (Mosquera floored the Thai three times, but was himself KD'd once, on the way to winning by UD, and wresting the WBA title).

19y ago

Fight_Nightx

"Against Valero, Morales let his hands go. He worked on setting up and landing his big right hand, which was one of the Mexican's keys to victory against Pacquiao. " "I let my hands go, too," Valero told MaxBoxing in an exclusive interview at his apartment in Montebello, California this past Tuesday. "We were there to work, but we didn't hold back with our power punches. I had to punch as I do in regular fights because of the altitude. The Otomi mountains are way up there, man. After one minute of sparring, I felt like I had gone 10 rounds." "The left hand stunned him," Valero said, rewinding the video to the exact moment of impact then slowing it down to make sure the scribes watching could catch it. "His eyes rolled back. He was almost cross-eyed for a few seconds. I backed off and just threw jabs. We were there to work, not fight." "I busted his nose in first round," Valero said proudly. "My white trunks were covered in blood after the second round. Blood stains are hard to get out, so I trashed the trunks on Saturday before I left for Los Angeles. How stupid was that? I probably could have sold the damn thing on eBay." http://www.maxboxing.com/Fischer/Fischer032605.asp

19y ago

mr_bojangles

How do you know? There were several instances where Morales went on the offensive and attacked Valero. Even if that was the case, he could neither time or counterpunch Valero as consistently as Valero was tagging him. In fact, I didn't see him land much of anything in that second session. you need an answer? read my post again. you seemed clueless :D

19y ago

Atman

i can upload that maxboxing gym wars for you guys, but don't get carried away with Valero's performance against Morales, El Terrible was working on his timing and counterpunching, he was letting Valero hit him. this sparring was in preparation to Pacquiao-Morales 1. How do you know? There were several instances where Morales went on the offensive and attacked Valero. Even if that was the case, he could neither time or counterpunch Valero as consistently as Valero was tagging him. In fact, I didn't see him land much of anything in that second session.

19y ago

loui_ludwig

Instead of making this into another thread, can someone PLEASE UPLOAD Mosquera-Valero fight.

19y ago

mr_bojangles

19y ago

loui_ludwig

He has all these 1st round KOs but pretty much all of his opponents were 1st round KO type of guys. The guy he fought this week isnt that great and he still gave Valero problems early. Again, I could easily be wrong because I just saw that one fight and didnt watch the sparring sessions If u have the Mosquera fight, can u upload it for us, please.

19y ago

DLT

19y ago

loui_ludwig

By the way, a sparring session with Eric Morales has been referred to, where supposedly Valero did really well. Does anybody have a link to this? U mean Eric Morales as in Erik "El Terrible" Morales or a diffirent EM?

19y ago

Southpaw16

By the way, a sparring session with Eric Morales has been referred to, where supposedly Valero did really well. Does anybody have a link to this?

19y ago

Southpaw16

MAB would have trouble with him. Right now MAB is fighting above his natural weight class and although he is a fantastic boxer, he would have trouble with the physical strength of Valero.

19y ago

Nacho_Analstain

His style may be flawed but you've got to be impresssed with the guy who kayoed all his 20 opponets, 18 of which is in the first round. :) I picked up Mosquerra to win because I was thinking that he would fight a smart fight but it turned out otherwise. He chose to slug it out with the guy who loves to finish off opponents in the first round thus the result. If Mosquerra wasn't KD and hurt twice in the first round he could have given Valero a tougher competition in the later part of the match. yeh he has an impressive record so far

19y ago