Here is some information I was able to pull up for Grayfist and Diego:
For the young Thai boxer Terdsak Jandaeng, who works at the water processing plant in Sukhothai, life is about more than just living. It is about surviving; surviving in the impoverished villages of Thailand, and surviving in the ring. Jandaeng's life has been one constant act of survival after another- leading him to a professional boxing record of 24-1.
Terdsak is a young man, having turned 26 only this June, and sees the world as being full of potential. Raised by a father often sick due to his Opium addiction, and a mother struggling to raise her seven children without her husband's help, he knows the darker sides of the world; yet for Terdsak Jandaeng the world begins in the boxing ring- and ends somewhere past the horizon. As he puts it, "The sky is the limit for me, now that I am a professional boxer."
One of the middle children of his seven siblings, Terdsak was neither blessed with the fate of being the youngest, nor the burden of being the eldest. For him, early life was trying to pick up the slack of his drug-addicted father by working at the national zoo in Bangkok as a janitor. Being unable to live with his family, working full time to send money back to his siblings, he often felt lonely and isolated- feelings that would find Jandaeng lacing up gloves and squaring off in the ring to alleviate his pain.
Since early adolescence Terdsak worked and lived in the feline exhibit in the Bangkok Zoo- until a chance conversation with his boss would lead him to discover boxing. Jandaeng says, "I would work and sleep in the same place. Behind the jungle cat cage near the West part of the zoo. I had nowhere else to go- I just worked and slept. I had no friends, no life outside the zoo. It was horrible."
Then, Man Deuk Park, his supervisor at the zoo commented on a recent fight he had worked as a cut man for that piqued Terdsak's interest, "I heard about the local amateur boxing fights...and I have to say I was hooked. The idea of doing more than sleeping at the zoo every night, of actually being recognized and having something to do with my time- I funneled everything I have into the sport."
Everything Terdsak Jandeng has will be on display August 5th, 2006 against Juan Manuel Marquez in a WBO Featherweight title match on Shobox. It's been a long time since Terdsak went from a zoo janitor to a professional boxer- but if he loses he says, "I'm at the top now. If I fail from here...it will break my heart if I lose against Marquez. I can't lose. I won't. If I do, no questions, I would give all my money to my family in Sukhothai and keep my job at the water treatment facility. Just quit boxing. If I fail at this level...I can't stand taking a step back."
It amuses me to go into the old vault and bring the unread stories of any boxer you guys want to hear about!Keep at it, pal. It amuses many too...me, front and center!
I might be favoring Terdsak in this fight to be honest. My gut tells me that Terdsak's physicality will give the boxer Luevano alot of issues, particularly if he gets on the inside where Luevano doesn't want to be.Given Njord777's account of where Terdsak is now in his career, it shall be so foolish of me to dream of betting against him, Asian...
But, seriously, I think Luevano brings too much to the table except power. He works the ring pretty well, has a good sense of distance, possesses an excellent right jab (Antonio Davis, I recall, felt it badly, in particular, in the 7th round and again as one of the first punches thrown in the 12th), a mean left straight, a brutal body shot (e.g., vs. Cook and also in the final round against Davis), a more than decent overhand right...
In round 10 of the Davis fight, he worked with his back to the tturnbuckle...countered and dropped Davis. This shows me that although he'd rather fight from far off, he's not really an easy customer up close.
Terdsak's KO/TKO rate is much higher than Luevano's but it seems to me that all of his stoppage victims had losing records. He has fought world class opposition only twice and both times he lost (Marquez and Guzman). This is not saying that Luevano is in the same class as Guzman and Marquez; all I'm saying is Terdsak has not beaten anyone in the class of Luevano.
Luevano had problems with the rough tactics of Honorio and that resulted in his first and only loss. The same style of fighting may be employed by Terdsak (he's called a "pitbull" of some type, after all) but I doubt that it would work at this stage of Luevano's career. Not after what he has shown against Cook and Davis.
I think.
Edit: They are both lefties--Terdsak and Steven. Lefties don't get to fight other lefties often. It'd be interesting to see who is able to adjust and adjust quickly.
manny pacquiao... tell us something we dont know about, we already know he used to wipe his ass with his hands..(Freddie roach told us) lol
Yeah get the toilet paper ready cuz hes about to wipe the floor with Marquez' ass...
That was quick! You don't disappoint, ol' buddy. LOL!!!
It amuses me to go into the old vault and bring the unread stories of any boxer you guys want to hear about!
I dug this up from the same source- for those interested in Terdsak's continued story:
For Terdsak Jandaeng fighting in America has been a mixed blessing. Coming from humble roots in Thailand where he worked in a zoo, Terdsak slowly rose through the sport of boxing- until he found himself fighting in the United States. Unknown to many boxing fans, his foray into fighting in this country came not against Juan Manuel Marquez- but against Joan Guzman in 2005. The man that had worked his way up from hauling Lion feces from the zoo he worked at, five miles every day on foot to the local fertilizer factory, found failure in New York as Guzman took a decision and sent him back to Thailand to start from scratch.
"When I get hit in ring I smell the strong scent of lion defecation. It reminds me of where I came from. It reminds me of the hardships I faced- and the pain tells me who I am now - not the fertilizer boy at the zoo - I'm a fighter. A warrior." Jandaeng says with pride. Recounting what happened next also causes him to swell with confidence.
After the Guzman lost Terdsak was faced with a dilemma; where to go next. Was his career over? He had never felt the sting of defeat before - so he rededicated himself to the sport. Jandaeng hauled fifty pound bags of the same fertilizer he used to haul up and down mountain ridges. One false move and Terdsak would plummet to his death in the forest-covered ravines below.
Redemption came in the form of a 9th round KO of Jaime Barcelona for the vacant WBO Asia Pacific featherweight title in his next fight. "I was hit hard in the ninth round- I smelled the lion feces and it made me roar like the big cats do when they make the fertilizer- and I hit him so hard he went to sleep."
With that win Terdsak was back on top. On top of the world; and his confidence returned. He'd test himself by fighting in Arizona- and win. Four more victories in his native Thailand and he was in control of his focus. Jandaeng became the Bangkok Zoo's spokesman - and became sponsored by Paendang Fertilizer; the brand he once carried miles to support his family.
Then disaster - the Juan Manuel Marquez fight. A fight in which Terdsak found not only his second loss but was knocked out in the 7th. "Marquez was cut. He was bleeding like a lion giving birth. I thought I had him. Then he hit me. I smelled the fertilizer but when I blinked the fight was over. I was not strong enough to take the hit."
When Terdsak recalls his loss the pride he displays earlier disappears. Shame, anger, and confusion mix as he recounts his return to Thailand. The zoo removed his image from their billboards. Paendang Fertilizer told him his services were no longer needed. In shame he went training one night and fell down the treacherous mountain path- plummeting into the ravine below.
The large bag of fertilizer he carried broke his fall- and with the wind knocked out of him and leg injured Jandaeng would lie in a pile of the substance that had helped him begin his career, smelled the scent, and said he made a realization. "It smelled like it did when I got hit. I was done, hurt, stuck in that ravine...and I realized it wasn't done for me. I had to try one more time.."
And he did. Terdsak Jandaeng fought in Chumphon, Thailand a mere month after the Marquez fight- the result being a first round KO in his favor. "The strength of the Lion had returned to me..."
Of the five fights he has had since the loss to Marquez, Terdsak has won four of them - 80%- by KO. "I smell the Lion fertilizer all the time now. I have a fire in me. I smell it all the time and my fists burn with it. I will not be stopped."
This weekend Terdsak will take on Steven Luevano - and he has a bold prediction. "You will see the lion in me; a new Terdsak is brewing." It's almost possible to smell the fertilizer on him; the stuff that has made the man who he is. "A warrior." He repeats with a prideful nod.
****Remember the reason for this thread all in good fun; oh, and I'd love to "dig up" similar stories about any boxer you guys want. Haha.******That was quick! You don't disappoint, ol' buddy. LOL!!!
And the Terdsak odyssey continues as the plot thickens...
I can hardly wait for Homer, in the guise of Njord777, to give us fresh details.;)
I dug this up from the same source- for those interested in Terdsak's continued story:
For Terdsak Jandaeng fighting in America has been a mixed blessing. Coming from humble roots in Thailand where he worked in a zoo, Terdsak slowly rose through the sport of boxing- until he found himself fighting in the United States. Unknown to many boxing fans, his foray into fighting in this country came not against Juan Manuel Marquez- but against Joan Guzman in 2005. The man that had worked his way up from hauling Lion feces from the zoo he worked at, five miles every day on foot to the local fertilizer factory, found failure in New York as Guzman took a decision and sent him back to Thailand to start from scratch.
"When I get hit in ring I smell the strong scent of lion defecation. It reminds me of where I came from. It reminds me of the hardships I faced- and the pain tells me who I am now - not the fertilizer boy at the zoo - I'm a fighter. A warrior." Jandaeng says with pride. Recounting what happened next also causes him to swell with confidence.
After the Guzman lost Terdsak was faced with a dilemma; where to go next. Was his career over? He had never felt the sting of defeat before - so he rededicated himself to the sport. Jandaeng hauled fifty pound bags of the same fertilizer he used to haul up and down mountain ridges. One false move and Terdsak would plummet to his death in the forest-covered ravines below.
Redemption came in the form of a 9th round KO of Jaime Barcelona for the vacant WBO Asia Pacific featherweight title in his next fight. "I was hit hard in the ninth round- I smelled the lion feces and it made me roar like the big cats do when they make the fertilizer- and I hit him so hard he went to sleep."
With that win Terdsak was back on top. On top of the world; and his confidence returned. He'd test himself by fighting in Arizona- and win. Four more victories in his native Thailand and he was in control of his focus. Jandaeng became the Bangkok Zoo's spokesman - and became sponsored by Paendang Fertilizer; the brand he once carried miles to support his family.
Then disaster - the Juan Manuel Marquez fight. A fight in which Terdsak found not only his second loss but was knocked out in the 7th. "Marquez was cut. He was bleeding like a lion giving birth. I thought I had him. Then he hit me. I smelled the fertilizer but when I blinked the fight was over. I was not strong enough to take the hit."
When Terdsak recalls his loss the pride he displays earlier disappears. Shame, anger, and confusion mix as he recounts his return to Thailand. The zoo removed his image from their billboards. Paendang Fertilizer told him his services were no longer needed. In shame he went training one night and fell down the treacherous mountain path- plummeting into the ravine below.
The large bag of fertilizer he carried broke his fall- and with the wind knocked out of him and leg injured Jandaeng would lie in a pile of the substance that had helped him begin his career, smelled the scent, and said he made a realization. "It smelled like it did when I got hit. I was done, hurt, stuck in that ravine...and I realized it wasn't done for me. I had to try one more time.."
And he did. Terdsak Jandaeng fought in Chumphon, Thailand a mere month after the Marquez fight- the result being a first round KO in his favor. "The strength of the Lion had returned to me..."
Of the five fights he has had since the loss to Marquez, Terdsak has won four of them - 80%- by KO. "I smell the Lion fertilizer all the time now. I have a fire in me. I smell it all the time and my fists burn with it. I will not be stopped."
This weekend Terdsak will take on Steven Luevano - and he has a bold prediction. "You will see the lion in me; a new Terdsak is brewing." It's almost possible to smell the fertilizer on him; the stuff that has made the man who he is. "A warrior." He repeats with a prideful nod.
****Remember the reason for this thread all in good fun; oh, and I'd love to "dig up" similar stories about any boxer you guys want. Haha.******
And the Terdsak odyssey continues as the plot thickens...
I can hardly wait for Homer, in the guise of Njord777, to give us fresh details.;)
I might be favoring Terdsak in this fight to be honest. My gut tells me that Terdsak's physicality will give the boxer Luevano alot of issues, particularly if he gets on the inside where Luevano doesn't want to be.
terdsak is back next weekend against steven luevano
And the Terdsak odyssey continues as the plot thickens...
I can hardly wait for Homer, in the guise of Njord777, to give us fresh details.;)
:-/ Well, there must be something he can do if he really wants to quit boxing.
I don't think he should head back to water treating.
I'm sure he could KO some of the falling stars of the division or at least decision them.
terdsak is back next weekend against steven luevano
i dont think he can go Muay Thai, he is considerably old to be a Muay Thai Fighter, I think these figthers start at an early age and retire early and/or graduate to boxing ...
:-/ Well, there must be something he can do if he really wants to quit boxing.
I don't think he should head back to water treating.
I'm sure he could KO some of the falling stars of the division or at least decision them.
he got nothing bro but peanuts from JMM... this poor pussy is just making peanuts nowadays,no money at all. thats the curse of turning down a rematch from Pac.
too bad to hear that ...
but for realy how much did the they get for these fight?
In all seriousness, I hope he doesn't really retire after this.
Maybe he can stay in it and work on his skills a bit and gain a few more money fights or a title.
If not that, then can't he go to Muay Thai?
i dont think he can go Muay Thai, he is considerably old to be a Muay Thai Fighter, I think these figthers start at an early age and retire early and/or graduate to boxing ...
Agreed. Maybe he can spar the others at the water treatment facility, get another title shot, do what he has to do. What a champion.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
He is the mightiest of all water treaters! P4P of all time! :p
Seriously though, if his story was real, then I hope he doesn't retire.
He could give it another go and see how he does.
Long live Terdsak!
Agreed. Maybe he can spar the others at the water treatment facility, get another title shot, do what he has to do. What a champion.
not all story have a happy ending but hopefully he got a lot of money from figthing Marquez ....
In all seriousness, I hope he doesn't really retire after this.
Maybe he can stay in it and work on his skills a bit and gain a few more money fights or a title.
If not that, then can't he go to Muay Thai?
Poor Terdsak.
He's going to retire now, right?
Back to a life of poop scooping and water treatment.
He'll be the toughest poop scooper and water treater that has ever lived! :p
Here is some information I was able to pull up for Grayfist and Diego:
For the young Thai boxer Terdsak Jandaeng, who works at the water processing plant in Sukhothai, life is about more than just living. It is about surviving; surviving in the impoverished villages of Thailand, and surviving in the ring. Jandaeng's life has been one constant act of survival after another- leading him to a professional boxing record of 24-1.
Terdsak is a young man, having turned 26 only this June, and sees the world as being full of potential. Raised by a father often sick due to his Opium addiction, and a mother struggling to raise her seven children without her husband's help, he knows the darker sides of the world; yet for Terdsak Jandaeng the world begins in the boxing ring- and ends somewhere past the horizon. As he puts it, "The sky is the limit for me, now that I am a professional boxer."
One of the middle children of his seven siblings, Terdsak was neither blessed with the fate of being the youngest, nor the burden of being the eldest. For him, early life was trying to pick up the slack of his drug-addicted father by working at the national zoo in Bangkok as a janitor. Being unable to live with his family, working full time to send money back to his siblings, he often felt lonely and isolated- feelings that would find Jandaeng lacing up gloves and squaring off in the ring to alleviate his pain.
Since early adolescence Terdsak worked and lived in the feline exhibit in the Bangkok Zoo- until a chance conversation with his boss would lead him to discover boxing. Jandaeng says, "I would work and sleep in the same place. Behind the jungle cat cage near the West part of the zoo. I had nowhere else to go- I just worked and slept. I had no friends, no life outside the zoo. It was horrible."
Then, Man Deuk Park, his supervisor at the zoo commented on a recent fight he had worked as a cut man for that piqued Terdsak's interest, "I heard about the local amateur boxing fights...and I have to say I was hooked. The idea of doing more than sleeping at the zoo every night, of actually being recognized and having something to do with my time- I funneled everything I have into the sport."
Everything Terdsak Jandeng has will be on display August 5th, 2006 against Juan Manuel Marquez in a WBO Featherweight title match on Shobox. It's been a long time since Terdsak went from a zoo janitor to a professional boxer- but if he loses he says, "I'm at the top now. If I fail from here...it will break my heart if I lose against Marquez. I can't lose. I won't. If I do, no questions, I would give all my money to my family in Sukhothai and keep my job at the water treatment facility. Just quit boxing. If I fail at this level...I can't stand taking a step back."
LOL! Thanks for the special mention! Great story!
But I heard another with a twist to the details you narrated:
Terdsak was christened Jan.
One day, he was cleaning up the jungle cat's cage, putting turd into a sack, when all of a sudden the cat attacked him; dismembered him.
Another keeper rushed to his aide, drove the cat away, then saw various parts of Jan scattered all over the place. The keeper grabbed the sack of turd and dumped every single part of Jan into it.
Rushing towards the hospital, he was met by other zoo employees who inquired, "What happened?"
He opened his mouth to reply, but before he was able to do so, heard a moan coming from the sack.
He showed the sack to those who asked and said between sobs, "Turdsak...Jan...dying!"
They never put Humpty Dumpty together again, but the Thai doctors attending Jan were magnificent. They get props for what Jan is now.
But the bigger credit must be to the zookeeper, Jan's friend, without whom he--Turdsack Jandaeng-- would have been deprived of a name that is stuff of legends.
Edit: I really do not relish doing this, but then...:o :)