wrong agian foolio !!!
I wont even get into facts because all you do is talk out of your ass! did you even read my post ? I point out valid facts , your statements are biased.
Plain and simple right...
Morales beat the shit out of Pac in the first fight. If you know boxing , judges scorecards dont mean shit. The fans watch the fight and everybody saw Morales humiliate Pac from pillar to post in the first fight. WHo gives a fuck if it was a decesion ! a win is a win...and it was a convincing win.
Second fight: VERY close fight until about the 9th round. Dont gimme that shit ! look at Pacs face too and tell me he wasnt in a fight.
Third fight : problem with Pac now is he is very overconfident. Just like he was overconfident againt JMM after beating on MAB previously. Overconfident in the first EM fight and also overconfident against Larios which is why he almost got knocked out in the 3rd or was it 5th round ( cant remember ).
Yes I am sure Morales will humble Pacman once more in the 3rd fight. IF Pac thinks it will be an easy fight you coudnt be more wrong. He better be training hard for this fight. I'll tell you know Morales uppercut is the key. When Pac comes in throwing those fast 4-5 punch combo's all Morales has to do is time it and land that one powerful uppercut. Dont forget Morales has 34 KO's in 48 fights. Overconfidence will be Pac's downfall.
Let's just dispense with the technicalities. It seems your mind is addled by your own misconceptions.
Let's put our arguments to the real test dude. Winner take all the credit loser leaves site.
What say you?
I'm confident of another Morales beatdown, a lot more horrific than the 2nd fight. What about you? You confident enough of a EM win? If yes then let's just bet on it.
Do you accept?
the 1st fight was a close fight. He didn't 'beat the shit' out of Pacquiao. Maybe the headbutt did, but other than that, the only beating between Pacquiao and Erik was the 2nd fight.
The headbutt was accidental.
Morales beat the shit out of Pac in the first fight. If you know boxing , judges scorecards dont mean shit. The fans watch the fight and everybody saw Morales humiliate Pac from pillar to post in the first fight. WHo gives a fuck if it was a decesion ! a win is a win...and it was a convincing win.
Erik Morales did not beat the shit out of Pac, if it did how come the score was 115-113 and why there is a rematch. This fight was a contender for the fight of the year, which means both fighters were going back and forth at each other. I already posted about the gloves and the cut so no need to explain.
Second fight: VERY close fight until about the 9th round. Dont gimme that shit ! look at Pacs face too and tell me he wasnt in a fight.
If u want to see a close fight, then u have to say the 1st fight was more of a close fight. The 2nd fight lasted 10 rounds, because of the TKO, but it was scheuduled for 12 rounds. So how can it be a close fight when it did not finish to the 12th round?
Third fight : problem with Pac now is he is very overconfident. Just like he was overconfident againt JMM after beating on MAB previously. Overconfident in the first EM fight and also overconfident against Larios which is why he almost got knocked out in the 3rd or was it 5th round ( cant remember ).
Against JMM, i agree with u that Pac got over confident, but i don't believe he did that against EM and Larios. Against Larios in the 3rd round, Larios connected a power punch to Pac, but i don't think he was gonna be KO and Pac recovered quickly and went on offesive.
Yes I am sure Morales will humble Pacman once more in the 3rd fight. IF Pac thinks it will be an easy fight you coudnt be more wrong. He better be training hard for this fight. I'll tell you know Morales uppercut is the key. When Pac comes in throwing those fast 4-5 punch combo's all Morales has to do is time it and land that one powerful uppercut. Dont forget Morales has 34 KO's in 48 fights. Overconfidence will be Pac's downfall.
Morales has 34 KO's, but agaisnt top fighters who has he knockout? Barrera-No, Chavez-N0, In Jin Chi-No, Famoso-No, Pac-EM couldn't even do it in the 1st fight with Pac's cut limiting his vision.
lols! Enjoy your meal of words kid.
The first fight was a close one. 115-113 is not a beatdown. Plain and basic common sense. PAC was bloodied all night FROM A CUT and yet he just smiled at EM's best punches. By contrast I saw EM doing the good old chicken dance by the 12th. And let me reiterate for your knowledge.
The gloves was a valid excuse. PAC proved that by rearranging EM's face when he wore his Reyes gloves.
The management issue also a valid excuse. Your a fool if you don't know the issues behind it. No need to elaborate it here. PAC proved that by coming in focused and beating EM to a pulp.
PAC was still "green" when he fought MAB and EM. He lacked the right hand, he didn't knew how to counter, he had trouble fighting backwards. Now if you don't call that "green" then let's just call it red. PAC started peaking after the first loss because it exposed his weaknesses. After the Velasquez fight, PAC started to become a more complete fighter with all the smooth moves.
By contrast, the 2nd fight was a horrific beatdown. What excuse does Morales have eh? He was weight drained? lol! He ate that word when he said before the fight that he's coming in best shape of his life. How can he be weight drained when he has 2 weeks of practice ahead of PAC. lol! Sounds illogical to me.
EM also said that PAC's power is overrated. PAC made him eat his words again. Let's just take a look at EM's face after the second fight and nuff said.
But let's just make it plain and simple. I love it when it plain and simple and just go to the bottomline.
I am very sure PAC will beat Morales again given all the right variables. Are you sure Morales can beat PAC again?
If yes then let's bet on it.
Loser leaves site.
What say you?
wrong agian foolio !!!
I wont even get into facts because all you do is talk out of your ass! did you even read my post ? I point out valid facts , your statements are biased.
Plain and simple right...
Morales beat the shit out of Pac in the first fight. If you know boxing , judges scorecards dont mean shit. The fans watch the fight and everybody saw Morales humiliate Pac from pillar to post in the first fight. WHo gives a fuck if it was a decesion ! a win is a win...and it was a convincing win.
Second fight: VERY close fight until about the 9th round. Dont gimme that shit ! look at Pacs face too and tell me he wasnt in a fight.
Third fight : problem with Pac now is he is very overconfident. Just like he was overconfident againt JMM after beating on MAB previously. Overconfident in the first EM fight and also overconfident against Larios which is why he almost got knocked out in the 3rd or was it 5th round ( cant remember ).
Yes I am sure Morales will humble Pacman once more in the 3rd fight. IF Pac thinks it will be an easy fight you coudnt be more wrong. He better be training hard for this fight. I'll tell you know Morales uppercut is the key. When Pac comes in throwing those fast 4-5 punch combo's all Morales has to do is time it and land that one powerful uppercut. Dont forget Morales has 34 KO's in 48 fights. Overconfidence will be Pac's downfall.
EM can be a dangerous fighter comi8ng off from the most difficult loss in his entire career..i will not overlook him and say that he will come out to the fight well prepared and ready for war!
Pacman has all the physical advantages going into this fight, he needs to train hard and show up with a humble mindset. Eric Morrales is no pushover, but he is sorely outmatched for this fight. The biggest mistake for Pacman is to come in with no respect for Morrales. But I don't think that will happen with Roach in his corner.
I tried to be nice but now i see your a complete idiot!
You say that EM barely scraped a decision in the first fight with all the odds stacked in his favor ? what fuckin odds ? the gloves ? thats an excuse! the blood trickling in his eye ? this is boxing and those are excuses. Morales beat him fair and square. Live with it. THe only time he got wobbled in the first fight was in the 12round when Morales's showboating dropped his hands and let pac hit him at will with consecutive shots ! lol, he still coudnt drop him.
But what about the odds stacked against Pac in his favor in the second fight? Your post said that Morales had broken eye sockets, ribs, nose, broken cheekbones and a barely recognizable face. Arent these odds against a fighter trying to win a fight ? hell even through all that shit Morales fought a valiant fight and kept it close to the end...give the man his credit. IF those arent odds against a fighter I dont know what is. There arent too many fighters out there who will fight through that shit!
You got nothing good to say about Morales and all you do is talk trash on this forum. lol , no wonder your fellow filipino's here on the site think your an idiot.
BTW...You didnt answer my question about the comments you made about Pac being green in the first EM fight? you also said he was green in the MAB fight ? so what i want to know is when did he become "NOT GREEN" LOL ! was it in training camp for the second fight ? lol.
lols! Enjoy your meal of words kid.
The first fight was a close one. 115-113 is not a beatdown. Plain and basic common sense. PAC was bloodied all night FROM A CUT and yet he just smiled at EM's best punches. By contrast I saw EM doing the good old chicken dance by the 12th. And let me reiterate for your knowledge.
The gloves was a valid excuse. PAC proved that by rearranging EM's face when he wore his Reyes gloves.
The management issue also a valid excuse. Your a fool if you don't know the issues behind it. No need to elaborate it here. PAC proved that by coming in focused and beating EM to a pulp.
PAC was still "green" when he fought MAB and EM. He lacked the right hand, he didn't knew how to counter, he had trouble fighting backwards. Now if you don't call that "green" then let's just call it red. PAC started peaking after the first loss because it exposed his weaknesses. After the Velasquez fight, PAC started to become a more complete fighter with all the smooth moves.
By contrast, the 2nd fight was a horrific beatdown. What excuse does Morales have eh? He was weight drained? lol! He ate that word when he said before the fight that he's coming in best shape of his life. How can he be weight drained when he has 2 weeks of practice ahead of PAC. lol! Sounds illogical to me.
EM also said that PAC's power is overrated. PAC made him eat his words again. Let's just take a look at EM's face after the second fight and nuff said.
But let's just make it plain and simple. I love it when it plain and simple and just go to the bottomline.
I am very sure PAC will beat Morales again given all the right variables. Are you sure Morales can beat PAC again?
If yes then let's bet on it.
Loser leaves site.
What say you?
as a PAC fan I have under estimated Erik once and I learn from my mistake and from then on NEVER EVER UNDERESTIMATE ERIK AGAIN ... Manny better come in prepared!!
The Rubber Match will be guranteed the best in the series!
MT TAKE .... PAC BY LATE ROUNDS KO/TKO
its gonna be like this man... yes its 1-1 but on nov.18 its gonna be 2-1 in favor of pacman.peace!
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http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j231/cizaza/losser.jpg yes he is too much for morales
erick morales is down and will be down 4evah....hahahahaha.. ryt joactcc2? peace bro.
Biased? Prove it dude. I challenged you earlier to prove my posts or bugger off and eat your words.
Is there anything in my post that is incorrect? If yes, then prove it. DOn't just blabber nonsense there if you can't validate that with facts.
It's a known fact that EM barely scraped a decision in the first fight with all the odds stacked so high in his favor.
It's a known fact PAC beat Morales up so bad, 90 percent of boxingscene staff ate their words at it (with a lone guy correctly predicting a KO for PAC) lols! It's a known fact the 2nd fight wasn't even close.
But let's forget about statistics dude. I hate technical trash and you sure like it straightforward also so let's dispense with the technical trash.
Just take a look at PAC's face after the 2nd fight.
Now take a look at EM's face after the 2nd fight.
Now do you see the difference dude? If you still can't then you're a hopeless case.
I tried to be nice but now i see your a complete idiot!
You say that EM barely scraped a decision in the first fight with all the odds stacked in his favor ? what fuckin odds ? the gloves ? thats an excuse! the blood trickling in his eye ? this is boxing and those are excuses. Morales beat him fair and square. Live with it. THe only time he got wobbled in the first fight was in the 12round when Morales's showboating dropped his hands and let pac hit him at will with consecutive shots ! lol, he still coudnt drop him.
But what about the odds stacked against Pac in his favor in the second fight? Your post said that Morales had broken eye sockets, ribs, nose, broken cheekbones and a barely recognizable face. Arent these odds against a fighter trying to win a fight ? hell even through all that shit Morales fought a valiant fight and kept it close to the end...give the man his credit. IF those arent odds against a fighter I dont know what is. There arent too many fighters out there who will fight through that shit!
You got nothing good to say about Morales and all you do is talk trash on this forum. lol , no wonder your fellow filipino's here on the site think your an idiot.
BTW...You didnt answer my question about the comments you made about Pac being green in the first EM fight? you also said he was green in the MAB fight ? so what i want to know is when did he become "NOT GREEN" LOL ! was it in training camp for the second fight ? lol.
your post is far too biased. YOu said before Pac was green in the Barerra fight ? now your saying Pac was Green in the first Morales fight ? so was he still green in the second Morales fight ? lol
also ... the second fight was very close. YOur either really biased ( which you probably are ) or you dont know how to score boxing , but seeing as your post is Pac this... Pac that...I'd have to say your biased with limited knowledge.
Then you go to say that Pac is learning with all the moves he has and that there is no limit to what he can do...this is true but he's RETIRING apparently without fighting other great fighters in Juarez, Diaz , Freitas or whoever.
The Power factor is overrated. If he had phenomenal stoppage power Morales , Barerra , JMM , Sanchez , Larios would have all been flat on there backs after the first left hand. He has power dont me wrong , but so does Morales.
Biased? Prove it dude. I challenged you earlier to prove my posts or bugger off and eat your words.
Is there anything in my post that is incorrect? If yes, then prove it. DOn't just blabber nonsense there if you can't validate that with facts.
It's a known fact that EM barely scraped a decision in the first fight with all the odds stacked so high in his favor.
It's a known fact PAC beat Morales up so bad, 90 percent of boxingscene staff ate their words at it (with a lone guy correctly predicting a KO for PAC) lols! It's a known fact the 2nd fight wasn't even close.
But let's forget about statistics dude. I hate technical trash and you sure like it straightforward also so let's dispense with the technical trash.
Just take a look at PAC's face after the 2nd fight.
Now take a look at EM's face after the 2nd fight.
Now do you see the difference dude? If you still can't then you're a hopeless case.
i'm rooting for pac on this 3rd fight. EM will have a hard time on his weight, and potentially hurt him in later rounds! Pac on the other will train much more for this fight... But one things for sure, it'll be be another great fight!
That's the point. EM can't even make a "green" PAC, with all the blood flowing on his face, winch in pain. EM with all his "complete" moves can't even make PAC do a lil chicken dance. With all the advantage in EM's favor, all EM can scrape is a lousy decision which was even close by all means.
The funny thing is.... after all those advantage stacked so high in EM's favor, the gloves which EM made PAC wear, the cut on his eye, blood oozing out in bundles, PAC being cheated by his promoter and all, a "complete" EM can only salvage a decision. And I remember EM doing the chicken dance in the 12th.
The 2nd fight wasn't even close. Not by a million miles. PAC sacrificed a few rounds just for him to go to the body and even those rounds were contested. EM was doing the chicken dance for every power punch PAC throws as him and when PAC figured EM out in the later rounds, what resulted was a horrific beatdown. Nightmarish in proportions actually. It is harsh by most standards but, broken eye sockets, ribs, nose, broken cheekbones and a barely recognizable Morales is the result.
And going back to your point. That's what makes it sweet.
PAC is still learning and learning. With all the moves that he has, there's no limit to what he can become.
He has the fastest handspeed in boxing. 4-6 punch combos in less that a sec is a tough one to beat. The only fighter that even comes close to that speed is PBF. And PBF does like 1-2 punch and does it quite sparingly.
PAC's punching power is simply phenomenal. Nuff said about that. Give me a flyweight guy who went on to beat up legit 130 guys and to boot sure all time p4p greats in Morales and MAB. None. Ever.
His chin is something that is still a mystery to some. How can a guy get KO'd early in his career and just smile EM and MAB's punches.
The truth is harsh. The only way EM wins this one is if PAC doesn't train enough.
your post is far too biased. YOu said before Pac was green in the Barerra fight ? now your saying Pac was Green in the first Morales fight ? so was he still green in the second Morales fight ? lol
also ... the second fight was very close. YOur either really biased ( which you probably are ) or you dont know how to score boxing , but seeing as your post is Pac this... Pac that...I'd have to say your biased with limited knowledge.
Then you go to say that Pac is learning with all the moves he has and that there is no limit to what he can do...this is true but he's RETIRING apparently without fighting other great fighters in Juarez, Diaz , Freitas or whoever.
The Power factor is overrated. If he had phenomenal stoppage power Morales , Barerra , JMM , Sanchez , Larios would have all been flat on there backs after the first left hand. He has power dont me wrong , but so does Morales.
yes basing from the two fights, pac should be favored to win, logically. but boxing is boxing, anything can happen, and while my logical mind says pac wins this easily, i still won't count EM out.
I am not counting EM out, but I just don't see how he could win. The way he succeeded in the first fight was taken away by Pac, and Pac's speed seemed to really frustrate him. I just think EM is showing the ware from all the wars he has been in.
I think Pac is too much for EM at this point in his career. EM has looked old his past couple fights (against Raheem and Pac). Pac totally dominated the rematch and lost a close decision in the first fight. I don't see what EM can do to counteract the clear advantage Pac has in speed.
Speed is what PAC has. The fastest handspeed in boxing coupled with nightmarish power. Tough one to crack.
That's the point. EM can't even make a "green" PAC, with all the blood flowing on his face, winch in pain. EM with all his "complete" moves can't even make PAC do a lil chicken dance. With all the advantage in EM's favor, all EM can scrape is a lousy decision which was even close by all means.
The funny thing is.... after all those advantage stacked so high in EM's favor, the gloves which EM made PAC wear, the cut on his eye, blood oozing out in bundles, PAC being cheated by his promoter and all, a "complete" EM can only salvage a decision. And I remember EM doing the chicken dance in the 12th.
The 2nd fight wasn't even close. Not by a million miles. PAC sacrificed a few rounds just for him to go to the body and even those rounds were contested. EM was doing the chicken dance for every power punch PAC throws as him and when PAC figured EM out in the later rounds, what resulted was a horrific beatdown. Nightmarish in proportions actually. It is harsh by most standards but, broken eye sockets, ribs, nose, broken cheekbones and a barely recognizable Morales is the result.
And going back to your point. That's what makes it sweet.
PAC is still learning and learning. With all the moves that he has, there's no limit to what he can become.
He has the fastest handspeed in boxing. 4-6 punch combos in less that a sec is a tough one to beat. The only fighter that even comes close to that speed is PBF. And PBF does like 1-2 punch and does it quite sparingly.
PAC's punching power is simply phenomenal. Nuff said about that. Give me a flyweight guy who went on to beat up legit 130 guys and to boot sure all time p4p greats in Morales and MAB. None. Ever.
His chin is something that is still a mystery to some. How can a guy get KO'd early in his career and just smile EM and MAB's punches.
The truth is harsh. The only way EM wins this one is if PAC doesn't train enough.
yes basing from the two fights, pac should be favored to win, logically. but boxing is boxing, anything can happen, and while my logical mind says pac wins this easily, i still won't count EM out.