whats the worse thing that ever happend 2 boxing

mcclellon and all deaths and brain damage victums, not like bowe and holyfield and frazier there just punch drunk and can still live and love life. also alis prime and tysons prime bein taken, i believe tyson was innocent. also racism back pre 1960 many great black fighters were robbed time after time, and now we dont even know who some of theese great fighters were. also early 1900s black fighters like joe gans who might be the best ever had his life threatened and had to intentenially loose fights. archie moore was the best fighter in the world for 10 years and never got a title shot. Larry holmes getting robbed in the spinks fight so he wouldnt beat marcianos record.

The way boxing was set up, period. It led to everything else that is wrong with the sport. There is no central nervous system of boxing. No NBA, no MLB, etc. The sport looks to federal and state funding for boxing commissions, ie taxpayers. I'm sorry but taxpayers should not have to pay for a sport to have a commission, state or national. Get a single company, you eliminate promoters and sanctioning bodies in one swipe. Fights have trouble getting made now. If there were a single company that all fighters belonged to, the company would simply schedule the fights. If the champs didn't fight the challengers, they would be stripped, that simple. Ducking wouldn't be possible or even considered. You wouldn't need a national commission because the company could have its own strict procedures. You wouldn't have this thing where if a fighter is banned in Nevada no problem run off to another state or abroad and fight. This company wouldn't allow that because it would be an international company. An organization/structure in boxing like this not being created is the worst thing that happened to boxing.

Unless the KO is like a Leonard-Hearns deal that comes toward the end of a great fight.

You know I never considered that Mike Tyson actually helped boxing's downfall, but kingtriton has a point. Even on these boards I see people obsessing about KO's all the time, and constantly showing litte or no respect for a good 12 round fight. Now don't get me wrong I love action, but there is a difference between action and KO's. A lot of Tyson's fights were not exciting imo even though they ended in spectacular fashion. Give me a war that goes to the cards any day over the KO.

The day Roy Jones turned bitch.

john the bum ruiz turned pro.

Promoters Too many paper titles $$ ruining fights that should've happened. Mike Tyson...cuz after him, the casual boxing fan only wanted to see knockouts and had no appreciation and patience for a good 12 rounder. oh yeah, PPV...cuz now they'll put any fight on PPV.

yeah but this was after his stint in jail. dont get me wrong Holyfield wasnt scared of Mike one bit and that played a big factor in all of Mike's fights but i feel he was just a shadow of himself before he changed camps and then went to prison. Holy probably has more heart then any fighter Tyson ever faced. Yeah that would be a dream fight. Tyson v. Holyfield in their respective primes with Kevin Rooney in Tyson's corner. What do you think happens in that fight?

i would agree, but so few people know about it. i think AFTER mike tyson "retired" was a hefty hit to boxing You are right, but I think it was a combination of a seemingly dominant champion fading and a really uninspiring champion on the rise. I like LL, even rate him as one of the best HW's of all time, but he wasn't exciting like Mike Tyson. He didn't produce highlight reel KO's, he played chess which was a turn off to a lot of sports fans. Really shouldn't have been because LL was a more worthy champ than Tyson but people will never stop loving Iron Mike.

i think nigel benn vs gerald mclellan is up there i would agree, but so few people know about it. i think AFTER mike tyson "retired" was a hefty hit to boxing

i dont think he was exposed as much as he was just not surrounded around the right people anymore..any great fighter can get lose bad when he isnt training or living the right lifestyle anymore. had he remained with those who guided him to where he was he may have had a much longer reign on top of the heavyweight division IMO Oh you are definitely right. Tyson is clearly a head case so something that is seemingly harmless like changing cornermen can be devastating to him. Tyson was definitely cut short, but I don't think that any trainer would have got him to beat Holyfield. Holyfield embodies the kind of fighter that Tyson couldn't beat. Tyson couldn't KO him and Holyfield was going to fight back for 12 rounds not just survive for 12. I was a huge Tyson fan at this point and I thought he was going to steamroll Holyfield (I was like 14 and foolish). But that was the day I started having tremendous respect for Holyfield. He straight up manhandled Mike Tyson. And in that sense, Tyson would have been exposed eventually no matter what.

I agree about the Don King thing. Boxing doesn't need crooked people. I think Tyson getting KTFO by Douglas was bad. Everyone was gonna know who Tyson was but then he got KTFO. Then again, many know who Tyson is due to other reasons...

How about Tyson's prime, I agree on DK, Lennox Lewis as HWC and corrupt judges. What happned to back in the day Refs use to judge the fight as well, I think we should go back to that, for the simple fact the have the best view. Tyson's prime ended in the ring in Tokyo. Jail only steepened the downfall. Once his aura of invinibility was gone... I can honestly say I think he was "exposed" (and I hate saying when an undefeated guy loses that he was exposed).

How about Tyson's prime, I agree on DK, Lennox Lewis as HWC and corrupt judges. What happned to back in the day Refs use to judge the fight as well, I think we should go back to that, for the simple fact the have the best view.

PPV.............to many sanctioning bodies and Don King PPV and Sanctioning Bodies. To think that fights used to be on FREE TV and now I have to pay $50 to see a good fight... shame. Also I didn't like when fights went from 15 to 12 rounds. How many fights would have gone differently in the modern era if fights were still 15.

Good Thread I Think Ali's Prime Being Taken Away Fom Him who knows how well the sport would have taken to his complete domination.

I agree with charlie... having about 600000 sanctioning bodies.

I gotta go with charlie, too many damb ppv's and some fight aren't even ppv worthy.

people like don king he is a byproduct of big time money which has ruined all major sports to a certain degree boxing is uniue in that people who are essentally criminals are able to rise to the highest ranks in virtually every aspect of the sport. nd an thereby conrol to a certain degree who is allowed to succeed and to what degree.

i think nigel benn vs gerald mclellan is up there